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post Aug 28 2018, 06:17
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 27 2018, 23:18) *

But i wonder, why do you need SoL for arenas? I would thought you had allready a set strong enough that none arena could be any danger for you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I think I use it by custom. Plus, extra protection is never too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) And yet gain proficiency. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Aug 27 2018, 23:36) *

Yes. With all over 90%adb and most were private deals that cost more credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


I think I'm too picky. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But even in an auction, depending on the dispute, equipment with more than 90% can exceed 10m (mainly because they are very rare).

QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 00:00) *

I see 2 pieces under 400k with 40% and 65% adb on last auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Would that be an exception? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Not long ago this type of equipment would not sell for less than 1m. But in my case, this type of equipment is not worth the investment, even if it were little. If so I'd rather stay with my Balance (94%~99%) and Protection (all Peerless) sets. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 07:45
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 03:39) *

Tbh I don't get how you even argue about survival when you don't use slaughter, but I guess that's what hypocrisy is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Guys, keep it friendly, please. And let's end this discussion, all has been said.
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post Aug 28 2018, 08:04
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I think Power of Protection/Warding with max ADB is much more preferrable than average Slaughter. You pay much less for it, still has a decent ADB, but won't lose in defense that much. It's mages work to be glass cannons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Aug 28 2018, 08:14
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 08:04) *

It's mages work to be glass cannons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Couldnt say it better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 09:11
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I mean, if you are glass cannoning with slaughter, even if it's full, something is clearly wrong. Might as well just be a mage at that point
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post Aug 28 2018, 09:39
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Well, with enough forging i am sure you can play all arenas with a full slaughter set just fine. But when you play slaughter, you should actually do it with a good and a lot upgraded one. Imo it makes not much sense trading defense for you a bit more damage while at the same time you actually need SoL to stay alive.
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post Aug 28 2018, 10:12
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 08:04) *

It's mages work to be glass cannons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i missed some of this melee justice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 10:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 11:12) *

i missed some of this melee justice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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post Aug 28 2018, 10:59
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.. white skin? O.O
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post Aug 28 2018, 11:06
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 11:59) *

.. white skin? O.O

It is and it always was for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 11:44
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What potencies is good for 1H and 2H weapons?
I intend to do IW but I can't kill more than 6 monsters with 1H on IWBTH/PFUDOR. I can do the last 3 arenas with PFUDOR because I have OFC and the arena have boss, but others arena is very hard for 1H. What should I use to pass other arenas? I'm currently using basic power set for 1H.
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post Aug 28 2018, 11:54
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QUOTE(Snowfoxrb @ Aug 28 2018, 12:44) *

What potencies is good for 1H and 2H weapons?
I intend to do IW but I can't kill more than 6 monsters with 1H on IWBTH/PFUDOR. I can do the last 3 arenas with PFUDOR because I have OFC and the arena have boss, but others arena is very hard for 1H. What should I use to pass other arenas? I'm currently using basic power set for 1H.

What kind of shield do you use? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 12:07
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Currently, I'm using this:
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/169582441/d5e9938361
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post Aug 28 2018, 12:11
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QUOTE(Snowfoxrb @ Aug 28 2018, 17:44) *

What potencies is good for 1H and 2H weapons?
I intend to do IW but I can't kill more than 6 monsters with 1H on IWBTH/PFUDOR. I can do the last 3 arenas with PFUDOR because I have OFC and the arena have boss, but others arena is very hard for 1H. What should I use to pass other arenas? I'm currently using basic power set for 1H.

Hmm 1H is considered of best survivability in right now. Two things I can think of:

1. Equipments level are way too behind.
2. You recently switched to 1H style, therefore you have low proficiency to gain stats from abilities.
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post Aug 28 2018, 12:25
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All gear is above lv 270, except the leg lv 217

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post Aug 28 2018, 13:10
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QUOTE(Snowfoxrb @ Aug 28 2018, 17:25) *

All gear is above lv 270, except the leg lv 217



on lvl 305? isn't that a bit too underleveled?

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post Aug 28 2018, 13:40
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Something about those stats doesn't look quite right. I play a goofy unoptimized 1H/Light build, and while your attack base is far beter than mine, your defenses are consierably worse than mine, and that's without including the 0% Evade.

Are you soulbinding and/or upgrading your armor stats?

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post Aug 28 2018, 14:14
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actually 1h-heavy tend to have low to zero evade anyway, as their equipments have no evade bonus and the burden would diminish any native evade from agi, so it's not surprising that he have 0 evade.

the problem is on block/parry chance 45.7 and 35.4 is pretty low for survivability.

we need to take a closer look on his weapon and shield.

edit: looking at my old equip, it's not that surprising, I just realize that he wield an exquisite rapier...
edit 2: after scrolling up a few, yeah, the shield is actually pretty good albeit not upgraded nor soulfused.

trying to answer previous question : preferred potencies for rapier for 1h-heavy weapon last time I know is butcher-fatality. for dw/niten might be a bit different as you don't get the counter parry from the overwhelming strike

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post Aug 28 2018, 14:27
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 07:17) *

Would that be an exception? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Not long ago this type of equipment would not sell for less than 1m.


All last auctions feature slaughters for ~500k and lower, and that's been true for at least half a year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 07:17) *
But in my case, this type of equipment is not worth the investment, even if it were little. If so I'd rather stay with my Balance (94%~99%) and Protection (all Peerless) sets. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


It's ok to use any equipment you like, it just considerably less adb > slower. If price and survival is your meta too why do you overpaying when leather is almost free?

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 28 2018, 08:45) *

Guys, keep it friendly, please. And let's end this discussion, all has been said.


True, some people just don't listen (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 17:12
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 09:27) *

All last auctions feature slaughters for ~500k and lower, and that's been true for at least half a year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


I looked at the outcome of several auctions and realized that this is almost true. In fact the results were quite varied. It all depends on the dispute. It had equipment with less than 50% sold for more than 1m, and with more than 50% sold for less than 500k.

I also realized that above 70~75% prices start firing.

It might be safer to say that with up to 5m a person can get a full set Slaughter with reasonable %ADB.

QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 09:27) *

It's ok to use any equipment you like, it just considerably less adb > slower. If price and survival is your meta too why do you overpaying when leather is almost free?


Is it possible to survive using leather? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Someday I'll find that out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

My problem is neither price nor survival. The main issue is that I always wanted to have definitive sets, without having to constantly change the pieces for better ones (unless it is for a Peerless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). It's just a personal desire (or dream). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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