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post Aug 28 2018, 03:15
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 28 2018, 03:34) *

Yeah, full. But you pay much more for that "full" Slaugher set and i am not talking about credits for the pieces. I you dont notice that, i cant help you. And when you switch to a full slaughter set while you still need SoL -something i never have- i dont even know who could help you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


Well, clear speed helps a lot, but I guess some players just satisfied with any gear, I get that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 03:18
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Some people do GF as 1H, clearing speed doesnt help you with that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) And tbh, at least i would be ashamed if i would need SoL to survive normal arena while using 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 03:39
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 28 2018, 04:18) *

Some people do GF as 1H, clearing speed doesnt help you with that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) And tbh, at least i would be ashamed if i would need SoL to survive normal arena while using 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Tbh I don't get how you even argue about survival when you don't use slaughter, but I guess that's what hypocrisy is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 28 2018, 03:54
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Because people argue about using SoL is recommended for 1h of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:00
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 27 2018, 21:28) *

That's not true, nowadays you can get full Leg of Slaughter for ~2m if you patient enough


Ah yes, for a set with less than 20% ADB in each piece, and with low competition in an auction, maybe this amount is possible. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You have to be veeeeeeeeery patient. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I've already spent 45m and still have one piece left. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 27 2018, 22:18) *

Some people do GF as 1H, clearing speed doesnt help you with that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) And tbh, at least i would be ashamed if i would need SoL to survive normal arena while using 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


I always use SoL, at any time, and even then I die about 2 times a year because of distraction (I do not realize the effect is over). Usually when this occurs, Regen and Spirit Shield also end, I do not realize, and I continue attacking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

And I have no shame of it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:18
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 04:00) *

I always use SoL, at any time, and even then I die about 2 times a year because of distraction (I do not realize the effect is over). Usually when this occurs, Regen and Spirit Shield also end, I do not realize, and I continue attacking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

And I have no shame of it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

So what? I normaly die once every two months, either by GF or just like you distraction only that it is for me regen i forgot. And i was talking about me, how i would feel about it. If you dont share these feelings, fine by me. I am really proud about myself and that i dont need any SoL at all and except PFUDOR Fest i beat the whole game without SoL. But that is me. But i wonder, why do you need SoL for arenas? I would thought you had allready a set strong enough that none arena could be any danger for you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:36
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 08:28) *

That's not true, nowadays you can get full Leg of Slaughter for ~2m if you patient enough

My 42%adb helmet was bought 650k. I also got 50% adb gauntlets for less than 700k or so, but I sold them when I decided to switch to mage. I believe with 5m it’s very easy to find average slaughters....especially when some lv500 average slaughters unwanted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 10:00) *

Ah yes, for a set with less than 20% ADB in each piece, and with low competition in an auction, maybe this amount is possible. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You have to be veeeeeeeeery patient. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I've already spent 45m and still have one piece left. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I always use SoL, at any time, and even then I die about 2 times a year because of distraction (I do not realize the effect is over). Usually when this occurs, Regen and Spirit Shield also end, I do not realize, and I continue attacking. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

And I have no shame of it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yes. With all over 90%adb and most were private deals that cost more credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Edit: [Hea02] Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Slaughter (500, ADB 65%) (seller: e-Stark) Nimroth 50k #23; winning for 59.3h / 59.3h; -1.5%
WORST case, my sympathy overflows....That's what lv500 slaughter occasionally encounter.....

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post Aug 28 2018, 05:00
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 28 2018, 04:54) *

Because people argue about using SoL is recommended for 1h of course. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Because you can die instantly without SoL, but it doesn't concern ~500 lvl players with defensive builds I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 28 2018, 05:00) *

Ah yes, for a set with less than 20% ADB in each piece, and with low competition in an auction, maybe this amount is possible. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You have to be veeeeeeeeery patient. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


I see 2 pieces under 400k with 40% and 65% adb on last auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Aug 28 2018, 05:36) *

My 42%adb helmet was bought 650k. I also got 50% adb gauntlets for less than 700k or so, but I sold them when I decided to switch to mage. I believe with 5m it’s very easy to find average slaughters....especially when some lv500 average slaughters unwanted (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Yes, soulfusing is the only possible problem
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post Aug 28 2018, 05:01
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 05:00) *

Because you can die instantly without SoL, but it doesn't concern ~500 lvl players with defensive builds I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I thought the same about SoL since i started with 1H all those years ago. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 06:17
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 27 2018, 23:18) *

But i wonder, why do you need SoL for arenas? I would thought you had allready a set strong enough that none arena could be any danger for you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I think I use it by custom. Plus, extra protection is never too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) And yet gain proficiency. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Aug 27 2018, 23:36) *

Yes. With all over 90%adb and most were private deals that cost more credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


I think I'm too picky. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) But even in an auction, depending on the dispute, equipment with more than 90% can exceed 10m (mainly because they are very rare).

QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 00:00) *

I see 2 pieces under 400k with 40% and 65% adb on last auctions (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Would that be an exception? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Not long ago this type of equipment would not sell for less than 1m. But in my case, this type of equipment is not worth the investment, even if it were little. If so I'd rather stay with my Balance (94%~99%) and Protection (all Peerless) sets. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 07:45
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 03:39) *

Tbh I don't get how you even argue about survival when you don't use slaughter, but I guess that's what hypocrisy is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Guys, keep it friendly, please. And let's end this discussion, all has been said.
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post Aug 28 2018, 08:04
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I think Power of Protection/Warding with max ADB is much more preferrable than average Slaughter. You pay much less for it, still has a decent ADB, but won't lose in defense that much. It's mages work to be glass cannons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Aug 28 2018, 08:14
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 08:04) *

It's mages work to be glass cannons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Couldnt say it better. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 09:11
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I mean, if you are glass cannoning with slaughter, even if it's full, something is clearly wrong. Might as well just be a mage at that point
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post Aug 28 2018, 09:39
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Well, with enough forging i am sure you can play all arenas with a full slaughter set just fine. But when you play slaughter, you should actually do it with a good and a lot upgraded one. Imo it makes not much sense trading defense for you a bit more damage while at the same time you actually need SoL to stay alive.
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post Aug 28 2018, 10:12
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 28 2018, 08:04) *

It's mages work to be glass cannons. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i missed some of this melee justice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 10:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 11:12) *

i missed some of this melee justice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

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post Aug 28 2018, 10:59
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.. white skin? O.O
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post Aug 28 2018, 11:06
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 11:59) *

.. white skin? O.O

It is and it always was for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 11:44
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What potencies is good for 1H and 2H weapons?
I intend to do IW but I can't kill more than 6 monsters with 1H on IWBTH/PFUDOR. I can do the last 3 arenas with PFUDOR because I have OFC and the arena have boss, but others arena is very hard for 1H. What should I use to pass other arenas? I'm currently using basic power set for 1H.
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