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post Aug 27 2018, 18:32
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 27 2018, 18:21) *

1H does not need SoL. Spirit Shield and Protection is actual everything you to slot. Okay, i would maybe suggest it for him if he want to do PFUDOR IW or some sort of fest but not in general.

knowing him, i am under the impression that he has at least IA4 already, so why not?
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post Aug 27 2018, 18:45
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Iirc he has even IA5. And because it is just not needed for most of the time. Why using something he has most of the time no benefit at all? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Aug 27 2018, 19:34
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why infusion storm is more expensive than lightning infusion?. There is a difference between wind and elec?
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post Aug 27 2018, 19:34
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 27 2018, 19:45) *

Iirc he has even IA5. And because it is just not needed for most of the time. Why using something he has most of the time no benefit at all? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

But if he has IA5, does he even need to make a choice? Just put them all in there and call it a day. The sustained mana cost is insignificant at that point.
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post Aug 27 2018, 19:41
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 27 2018, 18:41) *
no, not much. it even hinders gameplay a bit, actually. not as much as Shadow Veil, but still...
when a 1Her slots Spark, Spirit Shield and Protection is mostly good to go. all the rest is mana saving.

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QUOTE(Vilis @ Aug 27 2018, 20:34) *

But if he has IA5, does he even need to make a choice? Just put them all in there and call it a day. The sustained mana cost is insignificant at that point.

Well, I like to keep the mana cost and upkeep to a minimum. Before the "take an endless amount of potions into a fight" patch I've used 2H Light build that gave me a negative mana depletion with all 5 auto-slots used (even with overcharge being inactive). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Plus AFAIK Shadow Veil will do more harm than good with Heavy. I wasn't sure about Haste and that's why I've asked. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 27 2018, 20:23
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Aug 27 2018, 19:34) *

why infusion storm is more expensive than lightning infusion?. There is a difference between wind and elec?

Just more active buyers for wind. That's all.
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post Aug 27 2018, 20:36
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 27 2018, 20:23) *

Just more active buyers for wind. That's all.

lol pretty simple. Thanks
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post Aug 27 2018, 21:31
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Aug 27 2018, 19:34) *

But if he has IA5, does he even need to make a choice? Just put them all in there and call it a day. The sustained mana cost is insignificant at that point.

Yeah, you do that, while others prefer to play efficient. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 27 2018, 22:11
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let's say there's who likes to play safe and who likes to micro-manage resources - which is a challenge as well, btw - and move on, uh?
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post Aug 27 2018, 22:16
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Aug 27 2018, 06:55) *

Um yea, (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) I'm using it, that's why I put so much into forging into it. It was a gift +100 levels ago from ~wolfgirl, Beggars can't be choosers. I'd be grateful to get a better weapon. THANKS



Sent you that mag shockIng staff of destruction- certainly not endgame equipment by any stretch of the imagination, but hopefully can be used for a bit. I remember that you are an elec mage? Let me know if another element works better.
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post Aug 28 2018, 00:44
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 27 2018, 18:41) *

mostly, yep. we can assume that against the average monster pool all the elements are less or more comparable or, if you prefer, differences being sort-of negligible


That's not really true - if you check basic resistant chart you'll see that average holy and dark resistance is noticeably lower thus they more effective.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 27 2018, 19:21) *

1H does not need SoL.


1H doesn't need SoL if you ok with dying from time to time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 01:08
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I play 1h and I need to cast SoL especially very often beyond hard difficulty for me.

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post Aug 28 2018, 01:30
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 00:44) *

That's not really true - if you check basic resistant chart you'll see that average holy and dark resistance is noticeably lower thus they more effective.

i said "average mob pool", which means what you actually will find out there, weighted by classes, frequency and considering that mobs tend to die within 3-4 hits. basically, that chart is completely useless these days.
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post Aug 28 2018, 01:41
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Aug 28 2018, 01:08) *

I play 1h and I need to cast SoL especially very often beyond hard difficulty for me.

That's... Really not good. At all. Even for your level. Back when I was your level I played with self-drops, and used to think I had the most crocheted-together batch of shit equipment, and I still could play higher difficulties.

How many credits do you earn each day/average, and what does your equip set and shield look like? All exquisites? Superior? You use a force shield?
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post Aug 28 2018, 01:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 28 2018, 02:30) *

i said "average mob pool", which means what you actually will find out there, weighted by classes, frequency and considering that mobs tend to die within 3-4 hits. basically, that chart is completely useless these days.


That's like saying "adb doesn't matter, 10k-12k - they'll die from 3-4 hits anyway" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 01:55
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Aug 28 2018, 01:08) *

I play 1h and I need to cast SoL especially very often beyond hard difficulty for me.

Well, you are still at a quite low level, with i guess still not too great equipment. But i have never used it and never missed it.
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post Aug 28 2018, 02:05
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 28 2018, 07:55) *

Well, you are still at a quite low level, with i guess still not too great equipment. But i have never used it and never missed it.

yea but you should mention you don't use power of slaughters, uncle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 02:12
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Aug 28 2018, 02:05) *

yea but you should mention you don't use power of slaughters, uncle (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Just like most 1H do at the beginning. Because Slaughters are expensive. If you could afford a full Slaughter Set, you could also afford to fully upgrade the full set, and by that reach stats you also dont need SoL except you do high diff Fest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 28 2018, 02:28
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 28 2018, 03:12) *

Because Slaughters are expensive.


That's not true, nowadays you can get full Leg of Slaughter for ~2m if you patient enough
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post Aug 28 2018, 02:34
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 28 2018, 02:28) *

That's not true, nowadays you can get full Leg of Slaughter for ~2m if you patient enough

Yeah, full. But you pay much more for that "full" Slaugher set and i am not talking about credits for the pieces. I you dont notice that, i cant help you. And when you switch to a full slaughter set while you still need SoL -something i never have- i dont even know who could help you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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