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Aug 25 2018, 09:56
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Vilis
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I have some questions on Monster Lab. My goal is to get lots of gifts (duh).
1) What's the best way to spend Chaos Tokens? Should I just keep getting new monsters, or is the Scavenging upgrade worth it too?
2) What's a good level to upgrade my weakest monsters to?
3) Is there a good reason to upgrade a monster to the maximum level?
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Aug 25 2018, 10:08
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PersonaFan08
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I would say that a good PL level to upgrade your monsters to would be PL 1000+ because that's when they start bringing in more High Grade Materials especially high demand materials like HGC.
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Aug 25 2018, 10:11
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Aug 25 2018, 09:56)  I have some questions on Monster Lab. My goal is to get lots of gifts (duh).
1) What's the best way to spend Chaos Tokens? Should I just keep getting new monsters, or is the Scavenging upgrade worth it too?
2) What's a good level to upgrade my weakest monsters to?
3) Is there a good reason to upgrade a monster to the maximum level?
1) More and more slots. You can start spending one token per monster in Scavenger past 50 monsters or so. And then probably the second Scavenger upgrade past 70 monsters or so. I haven't made the exact calculation, but it shouldn't be far off. 2) Keep feeding their morale up with crystals until you can't do it anymore or you consider it becomes too expensive. Just make it so you don't waste morale when upgrading them and you should be fine. That much should make you save a lot of Happy Pills which will be useful once they start costing an arm and a leg. IMHO, you shouldn't be having much trouble till you go beyond 10 primary upgrades and 20 elemental upgrades. It takes a monster many months to reach that point by "crawling" the PL that way, but it pays off in the long run. 3) If you don't include bragging rights and pride in the valid reasons, the answer is a big fat no.
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Aug 25 2018, 11:59
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ALL_MIGHT
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Can i only get proficiency by playing at PFUDOR level or can it be attained at some lower level? (Because my build can't handle PFUDOR (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) )
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Aug 25 2018, 12:11
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Vilis
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Aug 25 2018, 12:59)  Can i only get proficiency by playing at PFUDOR level or can it be attained at some lower level? (Because my build can't handle PFUDOR (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ) You gain proficiency at all difficulty levels.
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Aug 25 2018, 13:11
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Fudo Masamune
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Aug 25 2018, 16:59)  Can i only get proficiency by playing at PFUDOR level or can it be attained at some lower level? (Because my build can't handle PFUDOR (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ) how could you not able to handle pf at lvl 411...
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Aug 25 2018, 13:48
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Fudo Masamune @ Aug 25 2018, 13:11)  how could you not able to handle pf at lvl 411...
Most likely trying to go mage instead of 1H, if I had to give a wild guess.
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Aug 25 2018, 14:26
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Goodman2011
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 24 2018, 20:15)  You know that you could actually just start an item world and look? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Hmm, I did NOT know that Item World tells you how many rounds an Item will take. Is that new since some update? This post has been edited by Goodman2011: Aug 27 2018, 02:00
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Aug 25 2018, 14:27
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ALL_MIGHT
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Aug 25 2018, 15:41)  You gain proficiency at all difficulty levels.
Thanks So, low holy prof is because i haven't played mage enough . And it will improve as days passes. QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 25 2018, 17:18)  Most likely trying to go mage instead of 1H, if I had to give a wild guess.
Absolutely Currect (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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Aug 25 2018, 14:29
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Goodman2011
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Aug 24 2018, 20:43)  Probably: 63 rounds/run (@ PFUDOR) x 14 runs = 882 rounds.
Thanks for the reply and calc estimate. So there must be a battle script! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Tenboro was so bored and loved us so much that he made this game, so we could feel the love and be as bored as he was playing 882 roiunds. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) Just kidding, Tenboro I appreciate the game and enjoy it daily. Would love to expand it to PvP. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by Goodman2011: Aug 25 2018, 14:29
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Aug 25 2018, 14:39
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Aug 25 2018, 20:27)  Thanks So, low holy prof is because i haven't played mage enough . And it will improve as days passes. Absolutely Currect (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) Prof gained is determined by your exp gained and your training level. So apparently you still want the highest difficulty possible. QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Aug 25 2018, 20:29)  Tenboro was so bored and loved us so much that he made this game, so we could feel the love and be as bored as he was playing 882 roiunds. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) There are benevolent IW shops that provide free or 1c/pxp IWs. Just make sure you know you can take advantage of it if necessary.
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Aug 25 2018, 14:43
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Dead-ed
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QUOTE(Goodman2011 @ Aug 25 2018, 06:29)  PvP
Player who stuns first wins.
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Aug 25 2018, 15:22
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Scremaz
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hmm... am i more nazi than usual or does it actually look like every pretext is good to open new threads now? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Aug 25 2018, 15:25
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_LMF_
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 25 2018, 21:22)  hmm... am i more nazi than usual or does it actually look like every pretext is good to open new threads now? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I am just here to drop a LOL (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/lurk.gif)
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Aug 25 2018, 16:12
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rfgdxm
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Which is better to have on armor, Warding or Protection?
I assumed warding would be more powerful but the market seems to indicate otherwise.
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Aug 25 2018, 16:20
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Aug 25 2018, 09:56)  I have some questions on Monster Lab. My goal is to get lots of gifts (duh).
1) What's the best way to spend Chaos Tokens? Should I just keep getting new monsters, or is the Scavenging upgrade worth it too?
2) What's a good level to upgrade my weakest monsters to?
3) Is there a good reason to upgrade a monster to the maximum level?
1) Monsters. Numbers do win the game. But imo, i like it for my low lvl monster to have at least one token into scavenging. And when you have allready reached a slot cost of over 100. My guess goes to, that it is allready worth it to upograde it a bit more. Just for the bigger chance to bring two gifts at once. But fully upgrade it is maybe just actually worth it when you allready have all 100 slots. And that could take a while. 2) 25. Just concentrade on one or two monster to be actual big for the start. When they have reached a useful PL and with that i mean something over 500, for the HG chance, you can bring up another monster or two. Or you go even full in and bring one monster up to around PL 1100 or even a bit higher so they appear even to high lvl player. Except that level up your low lvl monster could only spare you a few Happy Pills. Because the between PL 25 and 499 the difference is just not there. You a bit more MG stuff and a bit less LG stuff. But unless you actually get them over 500 for the HG chance to start, it is just not worth it at all. 3) No. The highest level that makes any actuall difference would be around PL 1500 when they bring HG stuff only. But anymore than that has hardly any effect. And no i dont care too much about the reduce moral drain at PL 1750 and 2250. Because when you actually have the money to get them up there, the last thing you care about are some Happy pills.
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Aug 25 2018, 17:40
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Aug 25 2018, 10:56)  I have some questions on Monster Lab. My goal is to get lots of gifts (duh).
1) What's the best way to spend Chaos Tokens? Should I just keep getting new monsters, or is the Scavenging upgrade worth it too?
2) What's a good level to upgrade my weakest monsters to?
3) Is there a good reason to upgrade a monster to the maximum level?
1) Keep getting new monsters, scavenging impact is unclear (according to description it's 2,5% aka 1 chaos token when slot is 80 for gold star if it works the same way) 2) Either 25 or 500-750 (~200-600k in crystals costs) for more usable materials 3) Money-wise you'll need tens of years to make it profitable. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 25 2018, 16:22)  hmm... am i more nazi than usual or does it actually look like every pretext is good to open new threads now? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I think it's more than a week since you guys keep all new spam threads open (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Aug 25 2018, 17:45
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Aug 25 2018, 19:10
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Scremaz
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 25 2018, 17:40)  I think it's more than a week since you guys keep all new spam threads open (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) well, i've been afk for a week and now noni is as well. guess people will enjoy a couple weeks of lazy moderation...
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Aug 25 2018, 19:30
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Kinights
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Is there a soft/hard cap for spell damage multiplier?
Also, if I reach enough proficiency to need only one prof piece, can I go 4+1 without any doubts, or is there any need for cloth for 3+2 at that point?
Adding to the question above, what is the best prof piece for a 4+1 dark mage set?
This post has been edited by Kinights: Aug 25 2018, 19:32
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