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My mana potions are getting used up too frequently (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


So i think i have two options

1. IW to Capacitor Potencies
2. Start using cheap charged

which one should i choose?
Or if you have any other better method.

Thanks
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This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: Aug 18 2018, 18:03

Hello all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I changed to maging recently and seem to have finally got a proper hang on the playstyle and timings.

Right now, my current goal is to change to non-imperil maging, so what should I do first?

Current Equip

Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction

Legendary Charged Cotton Cap of the Demon-fiend

Legendary Frugal Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend

Legendary Cobalt Phase Gloves of Fenrir

Legendary Cobalt Phase Pants of Fenrir

Legendary Frugal Phase Shoes of Fenrir

Stats

Magical Attack

4302 magic base damage
203 % hit chance
46.7 % crit chance / +50 % damage
88.5 % mana cost modifier
20.3 % cast speed bonus

Vitals

21578 health points
4999 magic points
+75 magic regen per tick
1890 spirit points
+12 spirit regen per tick

Defense

63.8 % physical mitigation
66.7 % magical mitigation
54.4 % evade chance
0 % block chance
20.1 % parry chance
64.7 % resist chance

Spell Damage Bonus

267.5 % dark

Effective Primary Stats

349strength
502dexterity
932agility
580endurance
1174intelligence
1183wisdom

Effective Proficiency

453 staff
453 cloth armor
907 forbidden
646 deprecating
490 supportive

Hath Perks

Vigorous Vitality

Effluent Ether

Death and Decay

Innate Arcana IV

Dæmon Duality I

Future

So, what should I do from here?

I'm currently saving up dor DD2, but should I change or forge my current equip before doing so?

Keep playing and grinding more proficiency?

Get proper Jug5 on all pieces of equip?

A summary on what a good non-imperil mage needs would be great. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Generally, non-imp styles are for advanced players that have DDs and credits to massive forge their gears.

Just to mention that any other non-imp style is an inferior version of non-imp holy, but since holys are so expensive, sure why not non-imp dark.
First, let's figure out your goal. If you simply want to do Arenas you should've already been good with it.

If you are going for the strongest non-imp, first to do is to increase your prof so you can have 1.0 prof factor with only gloves and shoes.I suggest you keep track of the auctions and get yourself good pairs of charged cotton shoes and gloves. Then forge their profs to lv50, then slowly grind profs to get 1.0 prof factor.

Secondly, go find some good radiants, or charged phases. Radiants are always the best for non-imp, but they are expensive and they require you invest more on defensive forging otherwise you would frequently spark in GFs and IWs. You also need more elixirs and scrolls to conquer PFDfest. Charges are alternatives when you have limited budget, and they require less forging to finish rounds of the same difficulty. Get J5 on charges and radiants, not on plain phases.

Lastly for sure, save for DD5. Not just DD2.

You can also ask DJNoni for details. He has completed his radiant non-imp dark build.

Again I reread your post. So there will always be budget issue, and one just need to give up one for the other. I suggest you save for DDs after you have fully forged your staff and at least forged all clothes to 20.

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Aug 18 2018, 19:34

Two questions on playstyles:

1) I tried 1h mage a couple of days ago on the 100 round Endgame arena to check efficiency. It took me around 800 rounds which is almost exactly what my 1h heavy gives, but at less than half the t/s. My elemental proficiency is 25 lower than 1h and I also don't have the elemental and deprecating proficiency perks so it is likely to improve a bit. However, will 1h mage will ever really be much faster than 1h heavy for arenas? If not, is 1h mage only really useful for grindfest?

2) For Niten, is heavy armor feasible, or is light armor clearly better (ignoring FRD builds)?

Many thanks!

Hello all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I changed to maging recently and seem to have finally got a proper hang on the playstyle and timings.

Right now, my current goal is to change to non-imperil maging, so what should I do first?

So, what should I do from here?

I'm currently saving up dor DD2, but should I change or forge my current equip before doing so?

Keep playing and grinding more proficiency?

Get proper Jug5 on all pieces of equip?

A summary on what a good non-imperil mage needs would be great. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

What you attempt is very hard to achieve. I am now just playing non-imperil style dark for arena's and I can only do about 600 rounds of PFFEST non-imperil style.

I have:
- prof factor 1.0 with cap & shoes - you use robe, and lose a lot of fire-power
- 2 radiants and all damage stats forged to 50, rest forged between 25 and 50. all other gear is charged.
- Penetrator 5, you only have 4
- all jug5 (well, one 4 but okay)
- DD5

So based on that, you have some work to do.

Two questions on playstyles:

1) I tried 1h mage a couple of days ago on the 100 round Endgame arena to check efficiency. It took me around 800 rounds which is almost exactly what my 1h heavy gives, but at less than half the t/s. My elemental proficiency is 25 lower than 1h and I also don't have the elemental and deprecating proficiency perks so it is likely to improve a bit. However, will 1h mage will ever really be much faster than 1h heavy for arenas? If not, is 1h mage only really useful for grindfest?

2) For Niten, is heavy armor feasible, or is light armor clearly better (ignoring FRD builds)?

Many thanks!

1) It's not really useful for grindfest either - well, maybe a bit. It's just a very fun style, a bit quirky and different. That's worth something, isn't it? But if you want most efficient play, choose the well-known play styles.

2) haven't tried it myself but all experts say light is the way to go. The only way.

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Aug 18 2018, 19:35

Thanks DJNoni, really appreciate your quick answers!

1h mage does feel more interesting than 1h heavy - I just need to get used to using spells instead of mindless hovering (and also buy a bunch of mana potions T.T).

- prof factor 1.0 with cap & shoes - you use robe, and lose a lot of fire-power

Is the firepower EDB or the MDB from Radiant?

- Penetrator 5, you only have 4

Eco was last potency. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Is the firepower EDB or the MDB from Radiant?
Eco was last potency. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

- both when radiant, but my robe is charged so that's only EDB you're missing. And evade. And other stuff.
- Bummer. Cry, reforge, start again. Took me 250 amnesias or so.

edit: or, just play imperil style! Works very well for dark.

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Aug 18 2018, 20:38

edit: or, just play imperil style! Works very well for dark.

Thinking about imperil style and top maging... dark with willow is probably better than holy, right?

I mean, with highly forged equipment and good lv of DD perk, ~80% of monsters are dead after the first t3 cast (when everyone is imperiled), this makes breached defense not that big of an advantage... in the other hand, willow would make imperiling easier than oak (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


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So, what's the current consensus about Elemental Mages (thinking about full PFfest)...

- Which's considered the current best style? (Wind? Elec?)
- Considering imperil style, is Elemental inferior to holy/dark? (pretty equal? slightly better?)


I know Holy really shines when playing non-imperil, but it's too costly to survive with it in later rounds of PFfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

What's the performance of prof suffix staff? Just found an old post from 2016:

Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction
Legendary Hallowed Katalox Staff of The Heaven-sent

Legendary Radiant Phase Cap of Heimdall
Legendary Radiant Phase Robe of Heimdall
Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Heimdall
Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Heimdall
Peerless Radiant Phase Shoes of Heimdall
Peerless Ruby Cotton Gloves of the Heaven-sent

Legendary Mystic Phase Cap of Heimdall

Holy magic score with crit: 43465
5878magic base damage
53.5% crit chance / +50 % damage
483.4 % EDB
========== Battle Data ======================
Holy mage (LV 496):
non-crit magic score: 23427
holy prof: 999 (201.4% prof)
12.4% cast speed bonus
67.9% physical mitigation
66.3% evade chance
Counter-Resist +20.00 %

GFx20 (1000 ROUNDS) LHKHF+4 RADIANT/MYSTIC PHASE + 1 COTTON

[Damage] Average: 3950 / Crushing: 43% / Piercing: 36% / Slashing: 17% / Fire: 0% / Cold: 0% / Wind: 0% / Elec: 0% / Holy: 0%

[Used Item] Health Potion: 76 / Spirit Gem: 68 / Health Gem: 66 / Mana Gem: 61 / Mystic Gem: 56 / Spirit Potion: 55 / Mana Draught: 37 / Scroll of Swiftness: 34 / Scroll of Shadows: 34 / Scroll of Protection: 34 / Mana Elixir: 21 / Spirit Draught: 21 / Spirit Elixir: 12 / Health Elixir: 9

[Skill & Spell] Smite: 2492 / Banishment: 1522 / Paradise Lost: 1017 / Cure: 986 / Full-Cure: 54 / Absorb: 28 / Regen: 20 / Arcane Focus: 6

6711 turns (excluding initial 0 round). Average 6.71 turn/round.

How difference the result would be if using gear above nowadays?

For Elem mage, are there any reasons using Redwood Staff of the Elementalist, besides the price?

Thinking about imperil style and top maging... dark with willow is probably better than holy, right?

I mean, with highly forged equipment and good lv of DD perk, ~80% of monsters are dead after the first t3 cast (when everyone is imperiled), this makes breached defense not that big of an advantage... in the other hand, willow would make imperiling easier than oak (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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So, what's the current consensus about Elemental Mages (thinking about full PFfest)...

- Which's considered the current best style? (Wind? Elec?)
- Considering imperil style, is Elemental inferior to holy/dark? (pretty equal? slightly better?)
I know Holy really shines when playing non-imperil, but it's too costly to survive with it in later rounds of PFfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

imperil style: dark is better for that, yes. Because willow is very good for imperil.
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- wind and elec, with wind perhaps being very slightly better. Very little difference though.
- imperil: wind and elec are better. Because you only need prof factor 0.68

What's the performance of prof suffix staff? Just found an old post from 2016:
How difference the result would be if using gear above nowadays?

For Elem mage, are there any reasons using Redwood Staff of the Elementalist, besides the price?

I think this willl still work very well. With such gear, lots of radiants, I'm sure you will have easy play. Only, oak is a bit better still.

- Redwood has better cold-damage boost than willow. And fire as well.
- of the elementalist? No, not in the current meta. Only as starter staff when your proficiency is low. But I think with any Redwood you can get 0.68 prof factor easily

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Aug 19 2018, 07:58

I think this willl still work very well. With such gear, lots of radiants, I'm sure you will have easy play. Only, oak is a bit better still.

A few full-cure, no Scroll of Life, last elixir, vase gum and not even spellweaver on staff. I just wonder if it is possible now that monsters are stronger...

This post has been edited by Lastwizard05: Aug 19 2018, 08:30

I just wonder if it is possible now that more monsters are fully upgraded...

Sure. Some people dont have anything else to do with their chaos token.

What's the performance of prof suffix staff? Just found an old post from 2016:
How difference the result would be if using gear above nowadays?

For Elem mage, are there any reasons using Redwood Staff of the Elementalist, besides the price?

I believe prof suffix staff are designed for non-imp styles. They always put you 0.98 prof factor if you have maximum prof, which is 600 at lv500. If you use a prof suffix staff for imp styles, you simply lose so much counter-resist and too much damage in exchange for prof factor that is far beyond 0.68.

A few full-cure, no Scroll of Life, last elixir, vase gum and not even spellweaver on staff. I just wonder if it is possible now that monsters are stronger...

sssss2 also has his records on his GF runs. Now he has DD9 and 3 radiants+oak staff. He needs 5900+ turns. Full-cure and scroll of lifes are definitely needed, but no last elixirs, vase gums.

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Aug 19 2018, 09:09

Need suggestion, here's my 1H build:

Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Cobalt Force Shield of Protection (Will be IW10)
Legendary Ruby Power Helmet of Protection
Legendary Zircon Power Armor of Balance
Legendary Zircon Power Gauntlets of Protection
Magnificent Power Leggings of Slaughter
Legendary Jade Power Boots of Protection

1. Should I keep and use them for long term and spend all my money on forging cost + soul fragment?
2. Or buying and switching better gears when equipment level gap is big? Should I spend my money to forge my equipment in this case and how much?
3. Or keep using this melee build, and save my money for switching mage build at lv400 or above? Can I use current build without soulfuse until lv400?

I just play daily Arena and Random Encounter x20 only, I tried mage in Arena with some poor gears at my level and I found it is difficult to survive. What is the minimum requirement for mage to survive and clear round faster than melee in Arena, especially SG? And how much should I spend for the gears?

Thank you.

This post has been edited by FLY2018: Aug 19 2018, 12:07

Need suggestion, here's my 1H build:

Legendary Demonic Rapier of Slaughter
Legendary Cobalt Force Shield of Protection (Will be IW10)
Legendary Ruby Power Helmet of Protection
Legendary Zircon Power Armor of Balance
Legendary Zircon Power Gauntlets of Protection
Magnificent Power Leggings of Slaughter
Legendary Jade Power Boots of Protection

1. Should I keep and use them for long term and spend all my money on forging cost + soul fragment?
2. Or buying and switching better gears when equipment level gap is big? Should I spend my money to forge my equipment in this case and how much?
3. Or keep using this melee build, and save my money for switching mage build at lv400 or above? Can I use current build without soulfuse until lv400?

I just play daily Arena and Random Encounter x20 only, I tried mage in Arena with some poor gears at my level and I found it is difficult to survive. What is the minimum requirement for mage to survive and clear round faster than melee in Arena, especially SG? And how much should I spend for the gears?

Thank you.

as a non expert 1H, my opinion:
1.do the minmum forge on your rapier, because it's Ordinary.
Physical Damage 5
Parry Chance 5
use it to IW a better one.
2.your shield is good.
3.if your def is safe enough, change Power Protection to Power Slaughter or to Balance because cheaper.

Disclaimer: Ignore the time. That costs about 600,000 credits in Vase/Gum.
I only do it to save time and keep from dying... more crystals that way, but at a huge loss overall.

What is "dot" below?

Disclaimer: Ignore the time. That costs about 600,000 credits in Vase/Gum.
I only do it to save time and keep from dying... more crystals that way, but at a huge loss overall.

What is "dot" below?

Maybe it's Damage from Burning Soul?

Need suggestion, here's my 1H build

For long term 1H is good if you satisfied with you clear time, meta enough build - rapier is fine, but shield isn't SDE so if you care about survival look for it, other gear should be leg of slaughter with positive adb (it's not that expansive), recommended forging is 5 + all you want to upgrade (priority is weapon adb and block chance), price for equipment - around 1m per gear (or much less if you lucky).

Definitely you can use this gear if you satisfied with it, if you plan to play mage you might want to start looking for gear and IW it earlier because it takes time (unless you hoarded tens of millions).

I just play daily Arena and Random Encounter x20 only, I tried mage in Arena with some poor gears at my level and I found it is difficult to survive. What is the minimum requirement for mage to survive and clear round faster than melee in Arena, especially SG? And how much should I spend for the gears?

Really good staff and millions on gear/perks/forging I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

What is "dot" below?

Damage over time? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by Benny-boy: Aug 19 2018, 15:43

Which items are worth salvaging?