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post Aug 12 2018, 12:21
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 12 2018, 04:57) *
Mana conservation bonus and bonuses from my gear allow me to use 5 autocast buffs and still have less mana consumed than regenerated per round. It's not that important now, but it was important before - because we could only take 10 potions in total to a fight, so keeping your mana intact was top priority.

This build still works pretty nice, although I'm pretty sure it's not optimal.

You know what? I think I liked the game more at those times (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Clearing PFUDOR GF with a maximum of 15 items was really hardcore! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


Economizer was King! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Aug 12 2018, 13:09
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Just GF? People were not doing CF much?
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post Aug 12 2018, 13:15
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Aug 12 2018, 12:21) *

You know what? I think I liked the game more at those times (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Clearing PFUDOR GF with a maximum of 15 items was really hardcore! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Economizer was King! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You mean Vampire/Illithid/Banshee?
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post Aug 12 2018, 13:42
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Does anyone know how to make mons win battles? None of my mons have won a single battle :(

I asked this question in this thread last year, I was told that pretty much nothing affects it and it is totally random, and that theory monster-crafting is pointless. I was dubious, but a year later my chaos and stat enhanced Player Killer monster has performed like crap, and my wimpy monsters have more wins or kills now, so it does seem random.

Also one of my monsters just gave me my second Crystallized Phazon ever and it did so without even winning a battle.
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post Aug 12 2018, 13:45
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QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Aug 12 2018, 08:09) *
Just GF? People were not doing CF much?

When I started playing they were unified already... I don't know much about old CF


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You mean Vampire/Illithid/Banshee?

Nope, Economizer the potency... every serious mage had Economizer Lv.5 on staff, it was must!

Siphon weapons were even shittier than they are now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Aug 12 2018, 14:40
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 12 2018, 09:57) *

Mana conservation bonus and bonuses from my gear allow me to use 5 autocast buffs and still have less mana consumed than regenerated per round.

But you know that the amount of upkeep per round is also based on your supportive proficiency and more having more slots make them also use less upkeep. So i am not sure you would actually need the mana conservation of your gear.

QUOTE(cosplayshoot @ Aug 12 2018, 11:30) *

Thanks for the advice, Uncle Stu!

Should I add more points to brutality? Does the PL increase if I do?

You are welcome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Because i guess you have less than 10 monster, i would say no. You should not waste any chaos tokens on your monster. Just use them to create more monster. And also no, the PL is just based on Primary attributes and Elemental mitigation. Increase on of them with crystals and you increase in the same moment their PL and yes i know the monsterlab does just call it Level, but it is actually their power level. For you i guess it would be the best to just use crystals on them when they have allready lost quite a bit of moral. So by that way you can increase the moral without use any Happy Pills.

QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Aug 12 2018, 13:09) *

Just GF? People were not doing CF much?


What was the difference? I mean i did see them both, but my level was way to low to actually to something with them. So my guess would be CF did gives you more and more crystals just like GF today, but what was the benefit of doing the old GF? I mean without the crystal bonus i dont actually see the point of doing it.

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post Aug 12 2018, 15:04
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 12 2018, 06:40) *

What was the difference? I mean i did see them both, but my level was way to low to actually to something with them. So my guess would be CF did gives you more and more crystals just like GF today, but what was the benefit of doing the old GF? I mean without the crystal bonus i dont actually see the point of doing it.


Yeah, sort of what I was asking. I remember I was doing small amount of rounds in GF, but why GF and not CF I dont know now. Was not high enough level for any difference for me anyway.
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post Aug 12 2018, 15:19
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QUOTE(Wraithtouch @ Aug 12 2018, 15:04) *

Yeah, sort of what I was asking. I remember I was doing small amount of rounds in GF, but why GF and not CF I dont know now. Was not high enough level for any difference for me anyway.

Well, same here, just i did CF. But i didnt even reached the first multiplicator and i just gave up after that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 12 2018, 15:24
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 12 2018, 15:40) *

But you know that the amount of upkeep per round is also based on your supportive proficiency and more having more slots make them also use less upkeep. So i am not sure you would actually need the mana conservation of your gear.

Well, without the 20% conservation of my estoc I still slowly lose mana through the rounds. With it I slowly gain mana through the rounds.
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post Aug 12 2018, 15:43
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Aug 12 2018, 15:24) *

Well, without the 20% conservation of my estoc I still slowly lose mana through the rounds. With it I slowly gain mana through the rounds.

Just slowly? Well than i guess in a few weeks you will reach a supportive proficiency above your level and that mana loss will be a mana gain, even without the estoc. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 12 2018, 17:22
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A question about the hoverplay of Monsterbation.

The hoveraction will just stop as HP becomes low. Then I always cast cure/fullcure by hotkey.
I think there must be a method which can help cast cure/fullcure automatically during hoverplay.
But I only have very little knowledge about js. I wonder how to achieve it.

Or is the auto-cure scripts just forbidden?
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post Aug 12 2018, 17:24
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QUOTE(lkwucong @ Aug 12 2018, 17:22) *

Or is the auto-cure scripts just forbidden?

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post Aug 12 2018, 17:33
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QUOTE(lkwucong @ Aug 12 2018, 17:22) *

A question about the hoverplay of Monsterbation.

The hoveraction will just stop as HP becomes low. Then I always cast cure/fullcure by hotkey.
I think there must be a method which can help cast cure/fullcure automatically during hoverplay.
But I only have very little knowledge about js. I wonder how to achieve it.

Or is the auto-cure scripts just forbidden?

very much forbidden.
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post Aug 12 2018, 17:39
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QUOTE(lkwucong @ Aug 12 2018, 23:22) *

A question about the hoverplay of Monsterbation.

The hoveraction will just stop as HP becomes low. Then I always cast cure/fullcure by hotkey.
I think there must be a method which can help cast cure/fullcure automatically during hoverplay.
But I only have very little knowledge about js. I wonder how to achieve it.

Or is the auto-cure scripts just forbidden?

Automation will always lead to a ban if one get caught.
But I know some players add functions under bindable functions in monsterbation to achieve auto-cures. They have 3.2t/s even as imp styles.

One day they will cry sour tear when their accounts are sent to the moon. And I'm looking forward to that.

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post Aug 12 2018, 17:45
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 12 2018, 17:33) *

very much forbidden.


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) OK...
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post Aug 12 2018, 17:53
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And when you have for the next time a question what is allowed, just look at monsterbation, because iirc it is the absolute max that is allowed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 12 2018, 20:52
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Been a while since I've seen Scorpio around!
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post Aug 12 2018, 20:57
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QUOTE(needaname @ Aug 12 2018, 21:52) *

Been a while since I've seen Scorpio around!

Nice to see ya too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Aug 12 2018, 21:33
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Aug 12 2018, 17:39) *

Automation will always lead to a ban if one get caught.
But I know some players add functions under bindable functions in monsterbation to achieve auto-cures. They have 3.2t/s even as imp styles.

One day they will cry sour tear when their accounts are sent to the moon. And I'm looking forward to that.

I get 3.2tps and I don't auto cast Imperil or anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
That's called binding keys properly and mastering your playstyle.
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post Aug 12 2018, 21:55
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 13 2018, 03:33) *

I get 3.2tps and I don't auto cast Imperil or anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
That's called binding keys properly and mastering your playstyle.

I'm not sure if you are referring to mages. Surely melees can hit 3.0t/s easily even if they imp.
But it would be quite difficult for imp mages to exceed 3.0t/s, especially for most who haven't forged all to lv50. I need to constantly switch between cures, potions and elixirs, and imperils. SG runs are exceptions, Arenas also 2.5t/s or so because I don't need to cure much.

On average, I can assume an imp mages need to cast 3500 imps every GF. And that's why non-imp mages are stronger/faster, not primarily because they need less turn(in fact they may need a bit more turns than imp mages do if they don't have the best radiants), but because they don't need to cast and recast imperils.

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