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Imo it does not make a great difference. I use them to gather some staff proficiency for the time i will play as mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

speaking of Arena:

Should I fight the first 5 arenas?
recording to hc br, I don't fight those:

First Blood
Learning Curves
Graduation
Road Less Traveled
A Rolling Stone

Only after frequenting this thread for a few months did I learn folks didn't do the first five arenas. I don't completely understand why. Even in my heavy 1h style, it barely takes two or three minutes. I get a forced equip drop, and every other day I'll usually get at least one chaos/blood token trop. I was lucky a few days ago and got two blood token drops.

3 minutes for a (very) small chance at some token drops, 5 shitty equips (which you can bazaar for 1k-2.5k)? Worth it for me. I can see why folks who are very, very rich wouldn't bother with it. But it takes so little time I can't imagine myself not doing it. Unless, you know, I had hundreds of millions of credits.

speaking of Arena:

Should I fight the first 5 arenas?
recording to hc br, I don't fight those:

First Blood
Learning Curves
Graduation
Road Less Traveled
A Rolling Stone

I don't i see why not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Leg. Drop Thread

This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Aug 4 2018, 00:34

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It's a matter of wasting stamina.

It's a matter of wasting stamina.

I might understand it wrong, but isn't the stamina loss infinitesimally small? It's based on how many rounds you do for the arenas, rather than a loss of a certain amount just for entering, right?

Regardless, if you're close to hitting 10 or constantly low (or consistently working on IW and such) I can understand avoiding them. I generally keep my stamina below 80 so I don't level too fast so it doesn't matter too much for me I suppose, although like I mentioned before, I've never seen any appreciable stamina loss from doing them. I think you lose a single stamina point from doing all 5.

This post has been edited by aleden: Aug 4 2018, 01:15

I might understand it wrong, but isn't the stamina loss infinitesimally small? It's based on how many rounds you do for the arenas, rather than a loss of a certain amount just for entering, right?

Regardless, if you're close to hitting 10 or constantly low (or consistently working on IW and such) I can understand avoiding them. I generally keep my stamina below 80 so I don't level too fast so it doesn't matter too much for me I suppose, although like I mentioned before, I've never seen any appreciable stamina loss from doing them. I think you lose a single stamina point from doing all 5.

Way not we do the math?

as the market price of energy drink,
and put the Token of Blood drop as 1/5day,
which mains 1/50day, you can fight 1 RB Gods more
Energy Drink 5 7 12 15 20 -12390
Arena Drop 20 200 400 600 800 2020
Arena Equip Drop 300 300 300 300 300 1500
RB Gods 1000 -200 40000 6000 8000 1096
Chaos Token
Else
it turns out Chaos Token and Else income should be worth 5000-7000 to make it worthy
which i don't think is easy, but I will try it later to find out
but with Hath Perk
Long Gone Before Daylight
it will be totally worthy, I think?

This post has been edited by anruiersi: Aug 4 2018, 02:31

but with Hath Perk
Long Gone Before Daylight
it will be totally worthy, I think?

Quite easy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

in the end with all dorp market value,
droped 3k
so the question would be:
if Chaos Token worth 15-20k?

This post has been edited by anruiersi: Aug 4 2018, 04:20

in the end with all dorp market value,
droped 3k
so the question would be:
if Chaos Token worth 15-20k?

If you're using energy drinks, I suppose. If you're not using energy drinks or don't have consistently low stamina, there's no reason to not do them. Other than saving a few minutes time. I suppose that's the divide. Folks with low stamina/can't afford to lose 1 shouldn't do the first 5 arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by aleden: Aug 4 2018, 04:22

I might understand it wrong, but isn't the stamina loss infinitesimally small? It's based on how many rounds you do for the arenas, rather than a loss of a certain amount just for entering, right?

Regardless, if you're close to hitting 10 or constantly low (or consistently working on IW and such) I can understand avoiding them. I generally keep my stamina below 80 so I don't level too fast so it doesn't matter too much for me I suppose, although like I mentioned before, I've never seen any appreciable stamina loss from doing them. I think you lose a single stamina point from doing all 5.

First five arena adds up to 59 rounds.

Stamina cost is 2.36 if you are above or equal to 80, 1.18 below that.

First five arena adds up to 59 rounds.

Stamina cost is 2.36 if you are above or equal to 80, 1.18 below that.

Fuck, sorry, that was totally a slip of the tongue. Or of the keyboard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I meant to write 'I don't think you lose more than a single point". If I was implying you don't lose any, whoops LOL. And yeah I was using the calcs for under 80 stamina, which I think is 0.02, while it's 0.04 for over 80. IIRC.

Fuck, sorry, that was totally a slip of the tongue. Or of the keyboard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I meant to write 'I don't think you lose more than a single point". If I was implying you don't lose any, whoops LOL. And yeah I was using the calcs for under 80 stamina, which I think is 0.02, while it's 0.04 for over 80. IIRC.

I'm mathing with under 80
59 rounds.
1.18 stamina

I'm mathing with under 80
59 rounds.
1.18 stamina

Yeah, so was I. That's what I meant. 0.02 multiplier (per round), which is 1.18 stamina for the first 5 rounds.

Clearly today I'm not doing well communicating

This is what I got from first 5 arena today

Credit drop : 3224
Equipment drop : 4001

No drop related perk
Drop training 27/11/7/3

Can I ask which difficult suitable for newbie? I read the first page that say don't rush lv too fast, but still recommend for 100% exp boost. I'm getting confused about that and don't know if I should keep the stamina between 90-99. Should I do the arena with the most difficult I can or just keep doing hard?

Can I ask which difficult suitable for newbie? I read the first page that say don't rush lv too fast, but still recommend for 100% exp boost. I'm getting confused about that and don't know if I should keep the stamina between 90-99. Should I do the arena with the most difficult I can or just keep doing hard?

Everybody has their own philosophy about leveling (how fast or slow), so I won't get into that.

But you lose the 100% boost if you're under 80 (e.g. 79). At your level, you are going to level incredibly fast regardless, so I wouldn't worry too much. Just do all the arenas every day, make sure to do the RE's (build up those soul fragments now!) and you will find yourself at level 150, 200, etc in no time flat.

Also, you should always do the arenas at the hardest difficulty you can manage without getting destroyed. You should be able to go above Normal and Hard at your level, but do what you feel is most comfortable. Just remember, the higher difficulty you go, you get more EXP, credits, better quality of drops, and so on, so it's definitely recommended you should try to get above hard.

Two more question please. Does have higher lv can make more credits, and how do I get chaos token?

Two more question please. Does have higher lv can make more credits, and how do I get chaos token?

Higher level = more arenas you can play therefore more drops, more credits. Grindfest is not recommended because credits drops is 1/4 of others.

Tokens: rare drops, you get them as clear bonus of arenas and ring of blood

Two more question please. Does have higher lv can make more credits, and how do I get chaos token?

Yes, higher level has access to more arena's, and especially the last 3 'schoolgirl arena's' are a nice source of income. And, stronger equipment can make more credits, just because you play more rounds in an hour.

Chaos tokens, you get as drops. Often as arena-end bonus drop. Play more arena's, get more chaos tokens.

Read the wiki advice page for more tips, link is in my signature.

After all arenas are down, what's more profitable, GF or IW?