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Ehm, do you mean points of the day? Or in general? And about what level of Crys are we talking? And what level of scavenger?

I got crystal 2, will upgrade to 3 later, and level of scavenger already 45, all other treasure training are pretty high too mmm...

I got crystal 2, will upgrade to 3 later, and level of scavenger already 45, all other treasure training are pretty high too mmm...

And do you now mean at what point of the day (by what arena you made) or do you plan to switch in general to GF? Because imo, with the actual CP prices GF isnt what it was used to be. And Crys II is imo not enough to get actuall something out of it. Crys IV should be imo be at least. But of course it is still worth it when you have allready done all your arenas and want to get something. Or lets say you lack only a few crystals to upgrade one of your monster and dont want to spend the money for CP to do it. Btw are you 1h or mage? Because that makes a big difference when it comes to GF. I mean of course you can still allready do some GF anyway. But it really just pays of when you have the perks and when you can do the full distance. You can try if you feel it is worth the effort for you. But imo i would say it would probably wont be worth the efford.

And do you now mean at what point of the day (by what arena you made) or do you plan to switch in general to GF? Because imo, with the actual CP prices GF isnt what it was used to be. And Crys II is imo not enough to get actuall something out of it. Crys IV should be imo be at least. But of course it is still worth it when you have allready done all your arenas and want to get something. Or lets say you lack only a few crystals to upgrade one of your monster and dont want to spend the money for CP to do it. Btw are you 1h or mage? Because that makes a big difference when it comes to GF. I mean of course you can still allready do some GF anyway. But it really just pays of when you have the perks and when you can do the full distance. You can try if you feel it is worth the effort for you. But imo i would say it would probably wont be worth the efford.

It's just I'm not sure whether the first several arena really gives better reward, and I use 1H so usually I don't really use that many restoratives in arena or GF, but it's not like I have the time to grind GF everyday mmm...

What take time for melees are the SG runs. SGs have no mitigation against holy/dark.
Arctic is good because generally a 1H would use fire shield to damage intake, and that fire shield decrease cold mitigation.
Demonic>=Hallowed>Arctic>rest

I don't really understand the Arctic case ? Could you be more specific ?
Why 1H would like to use fire shield (do you mean Ruby prefix) than other elementals prefix shield ?
How can a fire shield decrease cold mitigation of monster ?? I never read this before, do we have a EHwiki link that writes about this ? The only thing I know is Fire Spell can proc Searing Skin which decrease cold mitigation.

oh I just finished a GF and here comes the question.
I mean Fire Spike Shield, not ruby trash prefix on the force shield. Monsters who got Fire Spike Shield do 10% less damage due to its proc---Searing Skin. So 1h usually stick with fire spike shield. And Searing skin decrease cold mitigation by 25, which... increase damage of your arctic strikes.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Status_EffectsStatus Effect
Edit: I was answering his question, not asking one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

This post has been edited by -vincento-: Aug 3 2018, 19:25

It's just I'm not sure whether the first several arena really gives better reward, and I use 1H so usually I don't really use that many restoratives in arena or GF, but it's not like I have the time to grind GF everyday mmm...

I am with you. And that is t he reason why i told you to just try it out to look if it is worth it for you. It is just that i take quite a bit to do a full GF, but of course the higher the difficulty the higher the profit you make by doint one. Also it does take quite some time to do a whole GF. For me i need atm for a whole IWBTH Fest something between five and three and a half hour. Depends on what elementday it is, if i use infusion or not and if i do make a lunch break in it.

oh I just finished a GF and here comes the question.
I mean Fire Spike Shield, not ruby trash prefix on the force shield. Monsters who got Fire Spike Shield do 10% less damage due to its proc---Searing Skin. So 1h usually stick with fire spike shield. And Searing skin decrease cold mitigation by 25, which... increase damage of your arctic strikes.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Theft_EffectsStatus Effects

Ehm, and your question is?

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Aug 3 2018, 19:15

oh I just finished a GF and here comes the question.
I mean Fire Spike Shield, not ruby trash prefix on the force shield. Monsters who got Fire Spike Shield do 10% less damage due to its proc---Searing Skin. So 1h usually stick with fire spike shield. And Searing skin decrease cold mitigation by 25, which... increase damage of your arctic strikes.
https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Status_EffectsStatus Effect
Edit: I was answering his question, not asking one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Thank you very much.
I'm understand now, sirs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Edit: I was answering his question, not asking one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Well i did wonder. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

speaking of Arena:

Should I fight the first 5 arenas?
recording to hc br, I don't fight those:

First Blood
Learning Curves
Graduation
Road Less Traveled
A Rolling Stone

Imo it does not make a great difference. I use them to gather some staff proficiency for the time i will play as mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

speaking of Arena:

Should I fight the first 5 arenas?
recording to hc br, I don't fight those:

First Blood
Learning Curves
Graduation
Road Less Traveled
A Rolling Stone

Only after frequenting this thread for a few months did I learn folks didn't do the first five arenas. I don't completely understand why. Even in my heavy 1h style, it barely takes two or three minutes. I get a forced equip drop, and every other day I'll usually get at least one chaos/blood token trop. I was lucky a few days ago and got two blood token drops.

3 minutes for a (very) small chance at some token drops, 5 shitty equips (which you can bazaar for 1k-2.5k)? Worth it for me. I can see why folks who are very, very rich wouldn't bother with it. But it takes so little time I can't imagine myself not doing it. Unless, you know, I had hundreds of millions of credits.

speaking of Arena:

Should I fight the first 5 arenas?
recording to hc br, I don't fight those:

First Blood
Learning Curves
Graduation
Road Less Traveled
A Rolling Stone

I don't i see why not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Leg. Drop Thread

This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Aug 4 2018, 00:34

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It's a matter of wasting stamina.

It's a matter of wasting stamina.

I might understand it wrong, but isn't the stamina loss infinitesimally small? It's based on how many rounds you do for the arenas, rather than a loss of a certain amount just for entering, right?

Regardless, if you're close to hitting 10 or constantly low (or consistently working on IW and such) I can understand avoiding them. I generally keep my stamina below 80 so I don't level too fast so it doesn't matter too much for me I suppose, although like I mentioned before, I've never seen any appreciable stamina loss from doing them. I think you lose a single stamina point from doing all 5.

This post has been edited by aleden: Aug 4 2018, 01:15

I might understand it wrong, but isn't the stamina loss infinitesimally small? It's based on how many rounds you do for the arenas, rather than a loss of a certain amount just for entering, right?

Regardless, if you're close to hitting 10 or constantly low (or consistently working on IW and such) I can understand avoiding them. I generally keep my stamina below 80 so I don't level too fast so it doesn't matter too much for me I suppose, although like I mentioned before, I've never seen any appreciable stamina loss from doing them. I think you lose a single stamina point from doing all 5.

Way not we do the math?

as the market price of energy drink,
and put the Token of Blood drop as 1/5day,
which mains 1/50day, you can fight 1 RB Gods more
Energy Drink 5 7 12 15 20 -12390
Arena Drop 20 200 400 600 800 2020
Arena Equip Drop 300 300 300 300 300 1500
RB Gods 1000 -200 40000 6000 8000 1096
Chaos Token
Else
it turns out Chaos Token and Else income should be worth 5000-7000 to make it worthy
which i don't think is easy, but I will try it later to find out
but with Hath Perk
Long Gone Before Daylight
it will be totally worthy, I think?

This post has been edited by anruiersi: Aug 4 2018, 02:31

but with Hath Perk
Long Gone Before Daylight
it will be totally worthy, I think?

Quite easy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

in the end with all dorp market value,
droped 3k
so the question would be:
if Chaos Token worth 15-20k?

This post has been edited by anruiersi: Aug 4 2018, 04:20

in the end with all dorp market value,
droped 3k
so the question would be:
if Chaos Token worth 15-20k?

If you're using energy drinks, I suppose. If you're not using energy drinks or don't have consistently low stamina, there's no reason to not do them. Other than saving a few minutes time. I suppose that's the divide. Folks with low stamina/can't afford to lose 1 shouldn't do the first 5 arenas (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by aleden: Aug 4 2018, 04:22

I might understand it wrong, but isn't the stamina loss infinitesimally small? It's based on how many rounds you do for the arenas, rather than a loss of a certain amount just for entering, right?

Regardless, if you're close to hitting 10 or constantly low (or consistently working on IW and such) I can understand avoiding them. I generally keep my stamina below 80 so I don't level too fast so it doesn't matter too much for me I suppose, although like I mentioned before, I've never seen any appreciable stamina loss from doing them. I think you lose a single stamina point from doing all 5.

First five arena adds up to 59 rounds.

Stamina cost is 2.36 if you are above or equal to 80, 1.18 below that.

First five arena adds up to 59 rounds.

Stamina cost is 2.36 if you are above or equal to 80, 1.18 below that.

Fuck, sorry, that was totally a slip of the tongue. Or of the keyboard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I meant to write 'I don't think you lose more than a single point". If I was implying you don't lose any, whoops LOL. And yeah I was using the calcs for under 80 stamina, which I think is 0.02, while it's 0.04 for over 80. IIRC.