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Jul 30 2018, 00:05
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 30 2018, 00:50)  Well i just tell you what i have noticed. I have monster with Giftfactor +150% who bring me allready three gifts sometimes. Of course not on a regular basis. But from time to time. And this is all i can tell you. I have just observe this.
So your 250% gift factor monster gives you noticeably less than 2,5 gifts on average?
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Jul 30 2018, 00:09
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Uncle Stu
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250%? More like 153~158%. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) And what i say is, this is allready enough for them to have the chance to bring me three gifts. Maybe even less is enough, i dont know, i am too lazy to keep track of what monster bring me what and how many gifts.
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Jul 30 2018, 03:25
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Uncle Stu
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Well, the only reason why you still get any XP is for the proficiencies.
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Jul 30 2018, 03:36
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RoadShoe
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 29 2018, 13:49)  Though, is there a breakpoint for crystal packs spent vs actually getting better grade materials?
It's definitely a credit sink that takes years to pay off after hitting PL750. But... I've learned that it seems to be a linear scale on the chances for higher grade materials. Or.... at least it feels kind of linear. On the numbers side, with all 200 of my monsters above PL1000, I average 118 gifts per day. And the good news is 72% of those gifts are high grade or bindings. To me, this has become an integral part of the game for I watch the percentage of mid grade materials drop as I now increase my lower PL monsters equally. After a while, your materials will start paying for the crystals anyway. I go along with DJNoni.... Get as high with tokenizer as quickly as you can to increase your monster count and gift factors. EDIT: QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 29 2018, 18:25)  Well, the only reason why you still get any XP is for the proficiencies.
I think the counter stopped cold. I guess I'll know for sure in a day or two... I just got back to playing again. This post has been edited by RoadShoe: Jul 30 2018, 03:39
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Jul 30 2018, 05:52
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Lunarika
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Is 750 about the breakpoint where you start to need tons of crystal packs? Or is the reason to get to 750 is just to avoid low-grade drops?
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Jul 30 2018, 07:36
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Drksrpnt
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How important is parry chance for 1H Rapiers? I found [ alt.hentaiverse.org] this shit in the bazaar and bought it on a whim, but it only has 1% parry chance. Is that actually really terrible or what?
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Jul 30 2018, 07:49
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Jul 30 2018, 07:36)  How important is parry chance for 1H Rapiers? I found [ alt.hentaiverse.org] this shit in the bazaar and bought it on a whim, but it only has 1% parry chance. Is that actually really terrible or what? it's very important, parry. If you want to buy a cheap lv500 rapier that doesn't completely suck, check my wts, I have 2 of those for sale. Not great, still a lot better that what you bought in bazaar.
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Jul 30 2018, 07:52
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Drksrpnt @ Jul 30 2018, 07:36)  How important is parry chance for 1H Rapiers? 1) I don't see why only rapiers 2) Almost as important as block
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Jul 30 2018, 09:03
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Vilis
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What's the best way to go about getting the correct potencies? I want Penetrator 5 and Spellweaver 4 for my staff, so I set the difficulty low enough that it only gains one level per IW run, then if I don't get either of the ones I want, I reset with only one Amnesia Shard. Am I doing it correctly, or is there a more efficient way?
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Jul 30 2018, 09:17
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_LMF_
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Jul 30 2018, 15:03)  What's the best way to go about getting the correct potencies? I want Penetrator 5 and Spellweaver 4 for my staff, so I set the difficulty low enough that it only gains one level per IW run, then if I don't get either of the ones I want, I reset with only one Amnesia Shard. Am I doing it correctly, or is there a more efficient way?
I want to learn about this too. What about if you get an unwanted potency in the 2nd run. You still need to use 2 at extra stamina cost. There is a chance you get one to level and then ruined by an unwanted potency at level 6 too.I vote for highest difficulty possible to reveal both starting P first. Edit: Check this double P request done by Kodokura.This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Jul 30 2018, 09:24
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Jul 30 2018, 09:30
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ Jul 30 2018, 09:17)  I vote for highest difficulty possible to reveal both starting P first.
I would only suggest this if you either have the Dark Descent perk, or are still able to sent it to one who has that perk. Otherwhise you would just wasting shards. But in the end this is more or less allready the most efficient way. In the end it is just, money and patience.
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Jul 30 2018, 09:42
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lololo16
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QUOTE(Vilis @ Jul 30 2018, 04:03)  What's the best way to go about getting the correct potencies? I want Penetrator 5 and Spellweaver 4 for my staff, so I set the difficulty low enough that it only gains one level per IW run, then if I don't get either of the ones I want, I reset with only one Amnesia Shard. Am I doing it correctly, or is there a more efficient way?
iwbth to get the first two potencies, everything else on pfudor P, S = good (S3, P1 = bad omen) P, P = good S, S = reforge (dark descent service or get the perk)
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Jul 30 2018, 10:30
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_LMF_
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5 Ps available for non-focus staffs, assuming chances for each P to appear are even Wiki: Additional levels of potency are more likely to level up existing ones rather than give new ones (50% chance when you have one, 75% when you have two). P = Potency, + = already existed Potency levels up Level 1 Good 40% | Bad 60% P1(40%)↓ Level 2 P1+ 50% | P2 12.5% | Bad 37.5% | Desired Double P from this point = 5%. P1+(50%)↓ / P2(12.5%)------------------------------------------------------------------------------↓ Level 3 P1+ 50% | P2 12.5% | Bad 37.5% | Desired Double P from this point = 2.5% / Good+ 75% | Bad 25% Comparison after two runs (same stamina)"Fast"(P1>P2 = 5% = 20th run): 38AS "Slow"(P1>P2>Good+ or P1>P1+>P2 = 6.25% = 16th run): 10+ 3*5 = 25AS "EvenSlower"(P1>P2 = 5% = 20th run): 12+2*7 = 26AS Not sure how the rounding is done to odd numbers of P level with Dark Descent Hath Perk, but the consumptions of AS for each case are more or less the same. Just don't do the "Fast" way without Perk like Uncle said. Afterall, it depends on how often you pray to Snowflake. Please correct me if I am wrong. This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Jul 30 2018, 11:18
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Jul 30 2018, 12:13
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ Jul 30 2018, 10:30)  Not sure how the rounding is done to odd numbers of P level with Dark Descent Hath Perk,
You mean when you have three P's? They cost two. They are allways rounded up.
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Jul 30 2018, 12:20
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_LMF_
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 30 2018, 18:13)  You mean when you have three P's? They cost two. They are allways rounded up.
The number of shards required is equal to the equipment's Item Potency level. So I need to pay 2AS for Potency level 3? Hmm I never used this word before and I am not sure if i get the right idea, feel scamazed.
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Jul 30 2018, 12:30
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ Jul 30 2018, 12:20)  The number of shards required is equal to the equipment's Item Potency level. So I need to pay 2AS for Potency level 3?
Hmm I never used this word before and I am not sure if i get the right idea,
feel scamazed.
Hm? You were talking how it is with the perk. I did even quote that part. With dark descont any uneven number of Potency level is rounded up. When you have a Potency level of three you pay two shards. With five you pay three. And so on.
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Jul 30 2018, 12:39
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_LMF_
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,033
Joined: 6-December 14

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 30 2018, 18:30)  Hm? You were talking how it is with the perk. I did even quote that part. With dark descont any uneven number of Potency level is rounded up. When you have a Potency level of three you pay two shards. With five you pay three. And so on.
Yaya that's what I was talking about. I guess it makes no difference when coming to get the starting levels of desired Double Potency. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 30 2018, 13:20
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RoadShoe
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,241
Joined: 9-August 15

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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 29 2018, 20:52)  Is 750 about the breakpoint where you start to need tons of crystal packs? Or is the reason to get to 750 is just to avoid low-grade drops?
I used 750 as an example to eliminate low grade. I lose count after taking the monsters to any plateau like 750 or 900, etc. And I've never been very precise or calculating bringing them up to any level. My primary and mitigation levels on all monsters are all over the place. Plus, the crystal cost is exponential so it's tough to match the primary crystal packs to the mitigation crystal packs. Since I still have monsters in the PL1000 range, I can say this with certainty: To achieve ~PL1085 on a monster, you need all primary attributes at 16, and all mitigation at 33. Primary at 16 will cost you 105,273 total crystals per primary or ~105 crystal packs per monster. Mitigation at 33 will cost you 111,235 crystals per mitigation or ~111 crystal packs per monster. That seems low to me, but it's what my spreadsheet shows for total crystals at those levels. But then.... with 200 monsters that's a diamond mine of crystals..... If one of the experts can come behind me and verify, I'd appreciate it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 30 2018, 13:41
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Jul 30 2018, 13:20)  I used 750 as an example to eliminate low grade.
Imo the 750 is much more important because of the change of food they want. And let us be honest allready at 700 the chance for LG stuff i quite low. And imo because you can still get MG stuff and they are also nearly worthless the income of a 700s and of a 750s is in the end so small, that it is imo nearly non-existent and when we look at how much it cost to bring them from 700 to 750 allready, it does not matter. So imo cuisine is more important as the LG when it comes to the 750 line. And i would cover your back, but atm i am at round 843 of a GF, so i cant look up some numbers myself. Sorry. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jul 30 2018, 13:43
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