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Jul 29 2018, 14:41
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,940
Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 29 2018, 06:30)  And now lie and tell us the shield from yesterday wouldnt be worth even much more. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) For ~5% chance? Well... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Vilis @ Jul 29 2018, 14:18)  I'm thinking of upgrading my main weapon, but I'm not sure if the staves I've found are better since they are higher level than mine. Can you help me calculate the best choice?
Get yourself live percentile ranges script, option 2 is considerably better
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Jul 29 2018, 15:05
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Vilis
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 876
Joined: 1-December 11

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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jul 29 2018, 15:41)  Get yourself live percentile ranges script, option 2 is considerably better
I installed the script, but I'm getting a "No data available for this equip type" error.
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Jul 29 2018, 16:21
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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Well you must doing something wrong because i get
You staff Soulbound, IW 10, forged 15, Mag ranges: MDB 35%, Int 69%, Wis 39%, Wind EDB 91%, Elem Prof 4%, Depr Prof 93%, Burden 47% Option 1 446, IW 10, MDB 0%, Int 7%, Wis 66%, Wind EDB 28%, Elem Prof 5%, Depr Prof 26%, Burden 72% Option 2 500, MDB 63%, Int 86%, Wis 79%, Wind EDB 38%, Elem Prof 36%, Depr Prof 43%, Burden 61%
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Jul 29 2018, 17:43
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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That you dont have to put that mucb tickets into the lottery. 20k is way too much. Damned in the end it was still possible to win that shield with a single ticket. While i know of people who have invested more into tickets for an Oak staff as the staff would be worth in an auction and didnt won shit. Is it now clear what my point is? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jul 29 2018, 18:09
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 29 2018, 18:43)  That you dont have to put that mucb tickets into the lottery. 20k is way too much. Damned in the end it was still possible to win that shield with a single ticket. While i know of people who have invested more into tickets for an Oak staff as the staff would be worth in an auction and didnt won shit. Is it now clear what my point is? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) So investing in lotteries with good equips worth it, but it doesn't worth it because there is single equip per ticket per try. Ok (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jul 29 2018, 18:22
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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No. Investing millions and millions of credits is not worth it, because you can also win with less.
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Jul 29 2018, 20:46
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Lunarika
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 331
Joined: 2-April 12

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Is it more worth it to use chaos tokens to give each monster the first scavenger chaos upgrade, or to keep unlocking more monster slots? I have gold star so I have the 2 slots per monster slot upgrade, and currently have 42 total monsters.
I have the monsters at min PL minus 1 that's at 800ish.
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Jul 29 2018, 21:48
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 29 2018, 21:46)  Is it more worth it to use chaos tokens to give each monster the first scavenger chaos upgrade, or to keep unlocking more monster slots?
Scavenging increases the gift factor by 2.5%, so if cost is higher than 40/80 tokens then yes (without considering profit between new monster unlocks)
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Jul 29 2018, 22:26
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aleden
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Joined: 12-March 14

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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jul 29 2018, 21:48)  Scavenging increases the gift factor by 2.5%, so if cost is higher than 40/80 tokens then yes (without considering profit between new monster unlocks)
Wait, so are you saying at the point it costs 40-80 tokens for a new monster, it's more useful to increase scavenging on a strong monster? I'm pretty much at that point now, but I've never upgraded a monster, not even once. What is considered the point that it's useful for scavenging to be upgraded to? Increasing it by 5% (two upgrades) or 10%? Or something way higher? Edit: Lunarika, that's probably exactly what Benny meant. I derped really hard on my reading comprehension on this one I think LOL This post has been edited by aleden: Jul 29 2018, 22:38
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Jul 29 2018, 22:33
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Lunarika
Group: Gold Star Club
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Each new monster basically gives 100% gift factor at base, so it's 80 tokens as the breakpoint assuming you have 80 monsters to buy the first point of, and assuming that you get 2 monsters per unlock. Is that what you're saying?
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Jul 29 2018, 22:37
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 29 2018, 22:33)  Each new monster basically gives 100% gift factor at base, so it's 80 tokens as the breakpoint assuming you have 80 monsters to buy the first point of, and assuming that you get 2 monsters per unlock. Is that what you're saying?
That is what the numbers telling us. But because with 100% they can only bring you a single gift. But you dont need more than 200% for them to bring you even three gifts. So imo those numbers are misleading.
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Jul 29 2018, 22:39
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 29 2018, 22:33)  Each new monster basically gives 100% gift factor at base, so it's 80 tokens as the breakpoint assuming you have 80 monsters to buy the first point of, and assuming that you get 2 monsters per unlock. Is that what you're saying?
I don't think that it matters that much. More monsters is better, because then you have more monsters that bring gifts. And even the losers get lucky sometimes, so get as many losers out there - that's my strategy.
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Jul 29 2018, 22:49
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Lunarika
Group: Gold Star Club
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I actually did increase my main monster's gift factor a little just because it's the one with an actual chance to bring high-grade stuff. Though, is there a breakpoint for crystal packs spent vs actually getting better grade materials? Since atm, most mid-grade materials are at ~200-500c per, and high-grade is 200 600 5-6k 15k.
Actually, another quick question. How to get more chaos tokens? Just arena clears and keep plugging at it?
This post has been edited by Lunarika: Jul 29 2018, 22:50
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Jul 29 2018, 22:55
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,309
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 29 2018, 22:49)  I actually did increase my main monster's gift factor a little just because it's the one with an actual chance to bring high-grade stuff. Though, is there a breakpoint for crystal packs spent vs actually getting better grade materials? Since atm, most mid-grade materials are at ~200-500c per, and high-grade is 200 600 5-6k 15k.
Actually, another quick question. How to get more chaos tokens? Just arena clears and keep plugging at it?
There is always a return on investment - if you play for years and years, investing crystal packs will pay off. I suggest you start with getting 1 monster to 1500 or so - just for the sake of it. You'll meet him/her in the arena's then, regularly. And you get more wins and gifts. And in a couple of years, it may even pay off! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) But, it's mainly because you get to meet your monster. More tokens? Get tokenizer III. And then do a grindfest every day. Or better: 2 or 3 grindfests every day. And all arena's (except the first 5 of course), every day. And RoB.
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Jul 29 2018, 22:59
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Lunarika
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 331
Joined: 2-April 12

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Tokenizer sounds fun, except that it's literally about 4m to buy. How long would that take to get green ROIs on?
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Jul 29 2018, 23:44
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,940
Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 29 2018, 23:37)  That is what the numbers telling us. But because with 100% they can only bring you a single gift. But you dont need more than 200% for them to bring you even three gifts. So imo those numbers are misleading.
As far as I understand gift factor affects on how often you do get more gifts, but whole description is misleading, so this is my understanding of it, it may or may not work differently.
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Jul 29 2018, 23:50
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 12

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Well i just tell you what i have noticed. I have monster with Giftfactor +150% who bring me allready three gifts sometimes. Of course not on a regular basis. But from time to time. And this is all i can tell you. I have just observe this.
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