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I want to ask about the armor ? Is Power of Slaughter armors a better choice than Shielding Plate ? The Plate has better mitigation stats than Power, and give more "block chance".
Is "block chance" an important stat in this Melee Builds ? Do I need to choose Shielding Plate instead of power armor to have as high "block chance" as possible ?

As I see some equipment in auction, "block chance" for a Legendary Force shield at level 350 is often about 45% ( I'm not sure, I'm only an amateur (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)).
Is 45% block chance enough for fighting ? How many "block chance" do we need ? Do I need to choose Shielding Plate for more "block chance" and Mitigation ? Or I should choose Power of Slaughter armors for more "attack damage" ?
Do I have enough defense if I choose Power of Slaughter armors ?

Thank you.

Players far more knowledgeable than I have already answered. Just want to toss in my 2 cents as someone who is closer to your level - I asked about this exact question (Legendary Shielding Plate Cuirass of Protection vs Legendary Savage Power Armor of Warding) and promptly switched over to the power armor. It definitely is better for arenas, however, I do go back to the shielding plate for PFUDOR item world as I need the extra durability (otherwise I start getting sparked around round 35). So my recommendation would be to go for whatever your budget allows and don't worry about the fact that shielding is much worse than power armor at higher levels - you'll be switching your build several times before the difference becomes too significant.

It definitely is better for arenas, however, I do go back to the shielding plate for PFUDOR item world as I need the extra durability (otherwise I start getting sparked around round 35)

And the shielding does actually prevent that? How much does it increase block, mm and pm when you switch?

And the shielding does actually prevent that? How much does it increase block, mm and pm when you switch?

72.3% physical mitigation to 75.6% physical mitigation
71% magical mitigation to 69.7% magical mitigation
61.4% block chance to 64.6% block chance

It's not a big diff, so assuming it wasn't just unlucky (I tried PFUDOR IW three times with the power armor before giving up) I guess 3.3% pm and 3.2% block chance makes a noticeable difference when I'm not strong enough.

For physical attacks that hit, I take 13.4% more damage, and I'm hit by around 9% more physical and magical attacks.

Tbh i am a bit suprised that the decreased MM wasnt an issue. But i guess the block and a bit of luck did compensate for that. But do i understand that correct that you got more often hit by attacks with the shielding plate? Does the decrease of damage reduce your clear speed that much? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

My bad - re-reading it I see I phrased confusingly. I take 13.4% more physical damage and gets hit by 9% more attacks when I use power armor instead of shielding plate (assuming I understood the damage calculations correctly). I did not adjust for me being hit more due to lower damage, but think it might not matter too much because sparking was mostly me taking more damage than regen + health draught could heal back each round - while I am being hit more due to slower clear, the peak damage per round isn't affected as much.

I'm surprised the magic mitigation drop didn't hurt me as much too. Either there's just a lot more physical attacks or the stronger magic attacks were being capped from my spirit shield?

Ah, well that makes more sense as what i did understand in the first place. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

In sg arenas & at low level, it's good. But not at level 400 with helluva resist & evasion rate on monsters' side. I tried as well, only 1 imperil (of 3) procs per attempt in average.

Don't complain that you can't imperil if you don't have any Depr prof, as you obviously are not accustomed to spam it in every single round. It takes a bit of dedication to reach enough prof and have decent chances to land Imperil. You also need some Magic Accuracy that can only be provided by the Wisdom stat BTW, as you're most likely missing a fair share of your casts.

As guideline, my own Depr prof is 417.5, plus the 10% bonus provided by Evil Enchantress. Coming with 99% magic accuracy (I got around 475 Wis for that, 100% can be reached at 500 Wis). With all of this, I do land Imperil rather well. I'm not saying that that much as 30 prof beyond your own level is needed to play that style, but that one cannot simply expect Imperil to kick ass without using it consistently, especially for a melee playstyle.

Side note: when one monster isn't hit by Imperil, it's not biggie. Slash/stab it to death while your counters murder the imperiled ones.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Jul 14 2018, 08:53

As guideline, my own Depr prof is 417.5, plus the 10% bonus provided by Evil Enchantress. Coming with 99% magic accuracy (I got around 475 Wis for that, 100% can be reached at 500 Wis). With all of this, I do land Imperil rather well. I'm not saying that that much as 30 prof beyond your own level is needed to play that style, but that one cannot simply expect Imperil to kick ass without using it consistently, especially for a melee playstyle.

475 Wis (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That's your mage persona I assume? What is your magic accuracy with imperial shortsword?

As a side note, I didn't even know accuracy matters for depr spells, and now I feel silly for not thinking of it XD

Is there a trick to getting around the special highlighted enemies in the later arena challenges? Even with Imperil some of them are still a grind to take down, like chipping away at a mountain.

Wasn't so bad earlier on, but the 200+ arenas seem to have at least 2 or 3 a round slowing the entire thing down to a crawl.

475 Wis (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That's your mage persona I assume? What is your magic accuracy with imperial shortsword?

As a side note, I didn't even know accuracy matters for depr spells, and now I feel silly for not thinking of it XD

475 Wis is really what I have on my heavy persona. 500 will have to wait for a long while though.
[i.imgur.com] Spending points in the Wis stat will do that much, and it's also useful for the MMit, which shouldn't be neglected aswell.
Aside from this, don't take me as an example, [i.imgur.com] I'm offcharts.

475 Wis (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) That's your mage persona I assume? What is your magic accuracy with imperial shortsword?

As a side note, I didn't even know accuracy matters for depr spells, and now I feel silly for not thinking of it XD

1H Uncle has 500 wisdom. Just not for the mage accurarcy but for the 20% Resistance. After i did reach them i never again did put another point on wisdom. Actually i could even reduce with because of the Bonus PA. And in the end i did notice much more important for Deprecating to hit is the deprecating proficiency. I have just two level above my level and even the infamous dragons of DwD are quite good to hit for me.

Is there a trick to getting around the special highlighted enemies in the later arena challenges? Even with Imperil some of them are still a grind to take down, like chipping away at a mountain.

Wasn't so bad earlier on, but the 200+ arenas seem to have at least 2 or 3 a round slowing the entire thing down to a crawl.

Well, it is quite normal that they need a while. What is your playstyle? But i would suggest the usage of imperil anyway for those arenas. And also vital strike if you play 1H.

This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jul 14 2018, 14:37

ADB 0% is not like no Attack damage. It's the lowest possible attack damage you can drop as a legendary equipment.
Base damage is different for every type of equipment. Ignore them.

[b]Make sure you have installed Percentile Range script. You will have the percentages automatically from super's database every time you open an equipment window. Then you will understand how everything works by clicking the percentages. Don't try to calculate, or understand how a number is derived because it's never necessary.

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ok, then explain him why there are negative values without telling him how the stat is calculated. same goes for 0% being minimum and 100% being maximum. "it's assumed by convention" is not an answer.

Do I have enough defense if I choose Power of Slaughter armors ?

at your level possibly not, apart for looking for something that's stupidly expensive.
you may still find power of protection and power of warding as good choices at the moment.

Dunno where it is written that only rapier is recommended, because it's about time we add shortswords and wakis in the lot.

And Force shield isn't the only option either. Buckler of Barrier is just as good, if not better regarding some aspects.

if you can prove it, go ahead. but bandwagon is rapier + force shield, you'd better keep some datas at hand to prove your point.

Illegal even to discuss.

aye. just to spend a couple more words on that, restoring health is allowed via Regen spell and Health potions/Elixirs, but they have to be triggered manually. alerting when they are expiring and eventually blocking the game is fine (because it's considered a gamesaver thing), but automatically refreshing them when expiring is considered botting.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jul 14 2018, 22:30

Hey guys, might be a dumb question but curious:

After I've gotten OFC, do I have to maintain the 21 figurines in my inventory? Or can I sell them?

Hey guys, might be a dumb question but curious:

After I've gotten OFC, do I have to maintain the 21 figurines in my inventory? Or can I sell them?

Yes you DO have to keep them.

if you can prove it, go ahead. but bandwagon is rapier + force shield, you'd better keep some datas at hand to prove your point.

Because those who wrote those pages did so, perhaps? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

aye. just to spend a couple more words on that, restoring health is allowed via Regen spell and Health potions/Elixirs, but they have to be triggered manually. alerting when they are expiring and eventually blocking the game is fine, but automatically refreshing them when expiring is considered botting.

No, stopping the game when buffs are about to expire isn't fine. That is the entire point of the update of monsterbation that was demanded by Tenboro.
Unless you meant to stop the game when your HP bar is below a threshold, in which case you need to take a step back at what you write before you post.

Because those who wrote those pages did so, perhaps? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

no. but debunking bandwagons requires more efforts.

No, stopping the game when buffs are about to expire isn't fine. That is the entire point of the update of monsterbation that was demanded by Tenboro.
Unless you meant to stop the game when your HP bar is below a threshold, in which case you need to take a step back at what you write before you post.

nope. i explicitly asked admin an exception for essential spells (like Regen and Protection) back then. monsterbation's update was only to remove stop on channelling.

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jul 14 2018, 22:29

Ah yeah, I forgot it was still possible, due to me disabling it as it's very impractical.
There is only one parameter "stopOnBuffsExpiring" for everything altogether, and I've disabled it because I seriously don't want to click anywhere to resume combat every time I have a draught or a channeled spirit shield expiring.

As for debunking bandwagons, the issue is more about having a bunch of people butthurt for being in the wrong for so long, than actual proofs. I mean, if you want proofs, my clear turns combined with my equipment set are already enough. I suppose I will try to have some time to do that video I wanted to make since a heck damn of a while.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Jul 14 2018, 22:56

Sorry, I don't know why? May be I accidentally click "add reply" before complete my post (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

My post is below.

This post has been edited by -Daiki-: Jul 15 2018, 00:21

It's because I'm not using Live Percentile's ranges, which uses Jenga's database, but those provided in Toolbox, which uses the ranges displayed in the wiki.
And from the little I've seen here, I can safely say that Jenga's database is seriously lacking in equipments, as the minimum shown in the Legendary range is quite higher than the real minimum, in a lot of cases. Or Superlatanium failed hard somewhere in his script.

If the wiki ranges are not perfect (I do have seen a few Legendaries displaying -1% ADB), they're far more accurate than what is displayed by Live Percentile.

For example, if we take the last one you've given (Mag Power Gauntlets of Protection), I can say that its Leg ADB is 46.56% and its Mag ADB is 85.56%.

Hello, I want to ask about Live Percentile Ranges script (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
When I test this script in The Evil's low level stuff auction. With some equipments, the ADB stat this script show is the same as auction's information.
However, there are many equipments, they are not the same, from small different to far different.

Ex:
[One27] Magnificent Arctic Rapier of Slaughter (Level 324, ADB 24%) (seller: fasfasfz) | Start: 200k | Quick bid: 300k
[One30] Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter (Level 332, IW 10, forged 5, ADB 12%, Parry 13%) (seller: Xythuard) | Start: 500k | Quick bid: 700k
[Hea01] Magnificent Jade Power Armor of Protection (Level 308, ADB 10%) (seller: Kokoko_777) | Start: 50k | Quick bid: 70k
[Hea02] Magnificent Power Gauntlets of Protection (Level 336, ADB 47%) (seller: kangaeruthing) | Start: 30k | Quick bid: 50k

Here are stats the scripts show:



Why is it like that ? Which one should I follow ? Could you explain me more about this ?
Thank you.