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"Overpriced" is a weak word to describe the practices. Let's say that there's a big share of shop keepers who think that everything they have is oh so valuable because they had that one drop in a lifetime and they obviously don't go to auctions often enough.

And there are also those who are scammers on purpose, waiting for random ignorants to drop by and get hooked. Because hey the ignorant one is not very patient and very picky regarding prefix, suffix and maybe even ADB or God knows what.

But frankly we can't really blame anyone, except the ignorants who get scammed by buying randomly without the advice of an expert beforehand. "Caveat emptor", yada yada.

I remember Noni suggesting to have some sort of place to "rate" the shops to help protecting the newbies, but I was against that due to people who would be abusing that system and a big majority of players who wouldn't give a shit to it, except to trash one shop when they're not happy. Let the players learn their mistakes by making them. And if anything too serious ever happens, we can do something against the abusive shopkeeper.

Honestly, when the day comes that I have enough credits to actually buy good equipment, and I scout out some good items, I swear I'm just gonna come right in here and ask everyone what they think of the item/price LOL

Hey, I'm not expert, and this thread *IS* 'Ask the experts', right? No reason not to get a second eighth or ninth opinion.

"Overpriced" is a weak word to describe the practices. Let's say that there's a big share of shop keepers who think that everything they have is oh so valuable because they had that one drop in a lifetime and they obviously don't go to auctions often enough.

And there are also those who are scammers on purpose, waiting for random ignorants to drop by and get hooked. Because hey the ignorant one is not very patient and very picky regarding prefix, suffix and maybe even ADB or God knows what.

But frankly we can't really blame anyone, except the ignorants who get scammed by buying randomly without the advice of an expert beforehand. "Caveat emptor", yada yada.

I remember Noni suggesting to have some sort of place to "rate" the shops to help protecting the newbies, but I was against that due to people who would be abusing that system and a big majority of players who wouldn't give a shit to it, except to trash one shop when they're not happy. Let the players learn their mistakes by making them. And if anything too serious ever happens, we can do something against the abusive shopkeeper.

My opinion
Some shopkeepers didn't renew their equip's price very often,
and the acceptable price changed after several months

So there were both cheap equip and expensive equip in the store
Because the cheap one would be sold soon
so the equip AVAILABLE in the store seemed overprice(because nobody bought them)

btw,is there any goold stuff in next auction? i wanted a better staff and a prof cloth at affordable price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

My opinion
Some shopkeepers didn't renew their equip's price very often,
and the acceptable price changed after several months

So there were both cheap equip and expensive equip in the store
Because the cheap one would be sold soon
so the equip AVAILABLE in the store seemed overprice(because nobody bought them)

btw,is there any goold stuff in next auction? i wanted a better staff and a prof cloth at affordable price (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Frankly, not updating the prices often can be excused, at least for those who do have plenty of things to deal with, like me. Not for the other ones who only have their WTS which they don't feed every week with new stuff.

As for the content of next week's: no idea, I don't watch what will be in there before I actually start preparing it. I do can say that I get plain Leg prof cotton regularly, that I usually set it at 100k start price, but if you want it to be Charged, well... that's extremely rare for one to be dropped below Lvl350.

After playing in alt and with IW10

I use spirited OFC at the begining of each round with 2-3 SG

Haven't tried infusion yet

This is the result (PFUDOR DwD)

Should I stay on PFUDOR or play on something easier?

After playing in alt and with IW10

I use spirited OFC at the begining of each round with 2-3 SG

Haven't tried infusion yet

This is the result (PFUDOR DwD)

Should I stay on PFUDOR or play on something easier?

This depends on you I'd say. I am doing the hourly PFDWD run daily for the guaranteed Mag quality arena bonus. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

After playing in alt and with IW10

I use spirited OFC at the begining of each round with 2-3 SG

Haven't tried infusion yet

This is the result (PFUDOR DwD)

Should I stay on PFUDOR or play on something easier?

I think you're gonna be faster with infusions+vital strike+spirit [ON]+imperil (?)+ no OFC use (except for the last round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ). Because refilling the overcharge bar is gonna take long time imo, and when you play 1h-heavy, your oc bar will be like "infinite" so you can do VS many times after cooldown as you like without worrying about depleting oc bar...

So i think you can play = on PFUDOR +infusions+vital strike+spirit [ON]. And that's way better than me. I played pfudor at lv.35x (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I think you're gonna be faster with infusions+vital strike+spirit [ON]+imperil (?)+ no OFC use (except for the last round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ). Because refilling the overcharge bar is gonna take long time imo, and when you play 1h-heavy, your oc bar will be like "infinite" so you can do VS many times after cooldown as you like without worrying about depleting oc bar...

So i think you can play = on PFUDOR +infusions+vital strike+spirit [ON]. And that's way better than me. I played pfudor at lv.35x (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

My experience was mana and spirit ran out too fast without casting OFC every 2 or 3 SGs round.

And to get full OC I only need the last SG with 50% health, which is around 20 hits. Killing 7 other monsters may actually be longer than this imo.

My experience was mana and spirit ran out too fast without casting OFC every 2 or 3 SGs round.

And to get full OC I only need the last SG with 50% health, which is around 20 hits. Killing 7 other monsters may actually be longer than this imo.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) mana and spirit run out faster? Err..., i played my 1st iwbth dwd at lv.310-311 but not untill ran out of mana/spirit, though i finished it around 2 hours and 40-50minutes, few weeks ago i ran through pfdwd till end at around almost 2hours and 4,8xx turns, but still no mana/spirit runs out. And no ofc/imperil only buffs, i used ony infusions+VS+spirit ON+5-7 mana/spirit draughts.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) it's easy but take too long time in my case... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) mana and spirit run out faster? Err..., i played my 1st iwbth dwd at lv.310-311 but not untill ran out of mana/spirit, though i finished it around 2 hours and 40-50minutes, few weeks ago i ran through pfdwd till end at around almost 2hours and 4,8xx turns, but still no mana/spirit runs out. And no ofc/imperil only buffs, i used ony infusions+VS+spirit ON+5-7 mana/spirit draughts.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) it's easy but take too long time in my case... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I did not actually let my mana/spirit run out. Once I tried to fight the non-OFC way in the 3-SGs-round, my health dropped to emergency stop(50%) and had to heal multiple times every round and half of my spirits just evaporated within turns. So I decided to stay the safe way, OFC at the beginning of each round and slowly [] the SGs.

I guess OFC is more usuful and help with spirit management if used at the very begining of the round (if you don't have the mitigation, blk and/or parry to kill normal monsters with counters while fighting the SG's), since more enemies -> more attacks -> more Spirit Shield usage. (?)

It's the exact opposite of Uncle's method, when you are supposed to use OFC when three of the SGs are weakened and it's your final move of the round. Interesting.

I did not actually let my mana/spirit run out. Once I tried to fight the non-OFC way in the 3-SGs-round, my health dropped to emergency stop(50%) and had to heal multiple times every round and half of my spirits just evaporated within turns. So I decided to stay the safe way, OFC at the beginning of each round and slowly [] the SGs.

Maybe minHP= 0.5 it's too high, setting it to 0.3 (like myself) will save you a few turns. When I used it at 0.5 sometimes I felt I stopped far too often.

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Yesterday I tried to use imperil/OFC in PFDwD just like Uncle told me but it didn't go well. I reduced the number of turns just by using imperil, but my time was something like 39 minutes (like 45 seconds faster than normal) but with 2.4 t/s and normally I'm stuck at 1.7-2.1 t/s.

But I still need to set the keybindings so I can play with one hand, plus more practice and maybe I can reduce my time by 1 or 1:30 minutes. And without spending credits~ at least I hope so

since more enemies -> more attacks -> more Spirit Shield usage. (?)

Only when they actually make enough damage to trigger the shield. If your MM or PM is high enough to prevend them making enough damage, you need of course less spirit points.

Yesterday I tried to use imperil/OFC in PFDwD just like Uncle told me but it didn't go well. I reduced the number of turns just by using imperil, but my time was something like 39 minutes (like 45 seconds faster than normal) but with 2.4 t/s and normally I'm stuck at 1.7-2.1 t/s.

Well, damage and block/parry chance is what this is mostly about. If you have high parry/block chance, it is of course a lot easier to keep your spirit mode going on, or at least refill your spirit faster. Btw because i know it is easy to forget, when your weapon use holy or dark damage, either from its own elementel strike of from infusion, you should activate and slot the holy/dark imperil ability.

But I still need to set the keybindings so I can play with one hand, plus more practice and maybe I can reduce my time by 1 or 1:30 minutes. And without spending credits~ at least I hope so

Well, doing that without any credits could be hard. But allready forging your set a little bit, can have quite a bit of effect. And something like block and parry you should even forge a mutch as possible. They are in the end not that expensive, or at least parry isnt nowadays.

Only when they actually make enough damage to trigger the shield. If your MM or PM is high enough to prevend them making enough damage.

Yep, that is why I added the "mitigation" part in my first line.

Btw because i know it is easy to forget, when your weapon use holy or dark damage, either from its own elementel strike of from infusion, you should activate and slot the holy/dark imperil ability.

Rly? I'm using a Hallowed rapier, and I use dark infusion for SG arenas Should I slot them both? btw what is more effective using dark infusions or the infusion for the element of the day? (for SG arenas).

Well, doing that without any credits could be hard. But allready forging your set a little bit, can have quite a bit of effect. And something like block and parry you should even forge a mutch as possible. They are in the end not that expensive, or at least parry isnt nowadays.

Well, I said that because I felt my first run really awkward, with no imperil shortcut I used the mouse to click on the icon every time, and since it's a completely different style from what I used till yesterday sometimes I stopped and I was like "What I'm supposed to do now?". So many errors and still I got almost the same time with the method I'm used to the most. But yes, I have the parry forged to MAX (until I level up the forge), and the same goes for the BLK thanks to senpai. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The armor it's not forged not even to 5, I need 2.6 M to do that and I'm almost there. Being poor is suffering. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jul 1 2018, 17:49

Rly?

Really.

I'm using a Hallowed rapier, and I use dark infusion for SG arenas Should I slot them both?

If you use both elements and you have the ability points yeah. You should slot them both.

btw what is more effective using dark infusions or the infusion for the element of the day? (for SG arenas).

Tbh i am not sure. I made a few test runs, a few months ago, but the difference was not really significant. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Fixed some typos on my previous post, my english is more broken than morals and ethics in today's society. Don't expect too much :c

If you use both elements and you have the ability points yeah. You should slot them both.

Because I'm dumb I trained too much levels of Ability Boost also I got back the ability points used for Haste and Shadow Veil, since I don't use those skills anymore. Righ now I have like 40 ap. Still, maybe I'll slot only HI.

Thanks again for all your help, Uncle.

Fixed some typos on my previous post, my english is more broken than morals and ethics in today's society. Don't expect too much :c

Yeah, sorry. If you search for someone who blame for for bad english or typos. This is not the uncle you are looking for. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Because I'm dumb I trained too much levels of Ability Boost also I got back the ability points used for Haste and Shadow Veil, since I don't use those skills anymore. Righ now I have like 40 ap. Still, maybe I'll slot only HI.

Such things do happen. Lets see, i have 13 unused ability points and i have trained Ability Boost to 58. But there it still cost not even 8k. So i doubt you wasted too much credits.

Thanks again for all your help, Uncle.

Allways glad when i can help. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I just want to mention. You dont need to forge everything at once. Even i just use one BoS after the other. And you have allready parry and block maxed out atm. Those two are allready quite important so i would say you are on a good way. Just never expect counter attacks to do most of your work. They will help of course, but they will never deal as much damage as you do with normal attacks.

Most equipments hanging in those shopping are overpriced. Some would negotiate if you throw a pm, others whoever are greedy just don't wanna sell gear at a fair price. Usually the price you see isn't the minimum price they are willing to sell at.

last time i tried to negotiate a price based on quotations from someone who understands more than me i found myself badmouthed on a bunch of different (external-to-this-site) boards for a bunch of different reasons.
and pretty sure that if you try to do it with a certain person you'll be engaged in an auction with an invisible bidder.

so, uh... caution with who you're trying to negotiate.

"Overpriced" is a weak word to describe the practices. Let's say that there's a big share of shop keepers who think that everything they have is oh so valuable because they had that one drop in a lifetime and they obviously don't go to auctions often enough.

aye.

And there are also those who are scammers on purpose, waiting for random ignorants to drop by and get hooked. Because hey the ignorant one is not very patient and very picky regarding prefix, suffix and maybe even ADB or God knows what.

aye x2

But frankly we can't really blame anyone, except the ignorants who get scammed by buying randomly without the advice of an expert beforehand. "Caveat emptor", yada yada.

aye x3. worth mentioning that the same "caveat emptor" somehow protects buyer too. if the seller doesn't know the real price of the item, he shouldn't say "oh, wait, price changed in the two minutes between your request and my update" or shit like that invisible auction to justify it. their loss.

I remember Noni suggesting to have some sort of place to "rate" the shops to help protecting the newbies, but I was against that due to people who would be abusing that system and a big majority of players who wouldn't give a shit to it, except to trash one shop when they're not happy.

aye x4. guess we were a bit smoky when we didn't think about that.

And if anything too serious ever happens, we can do something against the abusive shopkeeper.

/me hides (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

A new Player should learn about this Game. If he or she doesn't know something, z. B. the Price or the Value of Equipments, he or she can ask us, and we'll help them. If he or she knows nothing, and refuse to learn or to ask, he or she should pay for his or her Decision. That's fair.

That's fair.

Is it? Because not long ago i had to point someone into the direction of this Topic. Because he tought his problem would not be critical enough. And when i think about that, call it fair would mean, punish people who, for whatever reason, are too afraid to ask a question here. As discussion about, when they did a mistake, it is just their own failt, is not really something i would see as helpfull by that. But maybe i am completly alone with that opinion. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Is it? Because not long ago i had to point someone into the direction of this Topic. Because he tought his problem would not be critical enough. And when i think about that, call it fair would mean, punish people who, for whatever reason, are too afraid to ask a question here. As discussion about, when they did a mistake, it is just their own failt, is not really something i would see as helpfull by that. But maybe i am completly alone with that opinion. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

If you're not sure what fair means, I can also use Deutsch to talk about it.

If you're not sure what fair means, I can also use Deutsch to talk about it.

That is your answer? Are you sure you did read the right post? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)