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Well, more PA would be of course better. And i am not sure if they would bleed to death with your level. But sure as sure i would suggest to use VS quite early. I mean lets say we have an SG with 10K HP, you hit it until it has 5K and use VS to kill it. But VS did made 6.5K damage. So 1.5k damage would just be wasted. And i just used these numbers as example.

Ok, now I understand it better.

And so is mine. When i talk about weaked i mean imperil, PA, stun and VS, by that way they are not death, well except of Kontana who does survive not that often. But right after VS you switch to the next SG to weak it with normal attacks, when cooldown of VS is off switch to the last SG imperil, VS and OFC For me this is mostly good enough to kill the whole round and save the some turns. With a bit luck i can make the whole DwD run one to two minutes faster as without this method.

If I do the last part "VS -> OFC" next round I'll be out of spirit stance right? I'm right if I assume that it isn't a big problem since OFC saves more time than the one wasted refilling the OC bar. (?)

Well, you dont actually need Slaughter pieces that much. There is an uncle who dont even us a single Slaughter piece in his Set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

And that uncle it's youuu~~~ ♪ (<- This is from a popular song in my country).

It's good to hear it.

***** ***** *****

I was refering to only the number of stacks of PA, since I know VS only works as expected on stunned monsters.
And I guess "mixed sets" are fine right? I'm using 3 "of protections" and 2 "of warding" cuz yolo.

Good luck with your internet, senpai. c:

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 17:39

What does anybody think about force shields with SDA pabs?
I know that force shields with SDE pabs are generally better but can't afford the high price for them now.

This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jun 30 2018, 17:58

If I do the last part "VS -> OFC" next round I'll be out of spirit stance right? I'm right if I assume that it isn't a big problem since OFC saves more time than the one wasted refilling the OC bar. (?)
And that uncle it's youuu~~~ ♪ (<- This is from a popular song in my country).

Probably. But i am quite often out of spirit stance in the SG arenas and it was never really a problem for me. So my guess would be that when it works as expected it would save you some time.

And that uncle it's youuu~~~ ♪ (<- This is from a popular song in my country).
It's good to hear it.

Well of course it is. It is about an uncle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

And I guess "mixed sets" are fine right? I'm using 3 "of protections" and 2 "of warding" cuz yolo.

Well, tbh i wouldnt even suggest using a pure warding or protection set. Okay, it doesnt matter later on when people switch from a defensive set to a full slaughter set but at your level i would go for defense above damage.

Actually "It's good to hear it." was an answer to this:

Well, you dont actually need Slaughter pieces that much. There is an uncle who dont even us a single Slaughter piece in his Set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

But, yes. It's a nice song. c:

Well, tbh i wouldnt even suggest using a pure warding or protection set. Okay, it doesnt matter later on when people switch from a defensive set to a full slaughter set but at your level i would go for defense above damage.

Got it!

What does anybody think about force shields with SDA pabs?
I know that force shields with SDE pabs are generally better but can't afford the high price for them now.

I asked this some time ago. Uncle, senpai and a few other experts told me that the preference is SDE > DEA > SDA,SEA etc. if you can't afford an SDE, aim for a force DEA with at least 70% BLK.

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 18:06

And I guess "mixed sets" are fine right? I'm using 3 "of protections" and 2 "of warding" cuz yolo.

+1 like Uncle said below...

Talking about mixed set, maybe you can try a set like in his signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Well, tbh i wouldnt even suggest using a pure warding or protection set. Okay, it doesnt matter later on when people switch from a defensive set to a full slaughter set but at your level i would go for defense above damage.

Good luck with your internet, senpai. c:

Thank you.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What does anybody think about force shields with SDA pabs?
I know that force shields with SDE pabs are generally better but can't afford the high price for them now.

It's fine using SDA, i'm using it right now....

Well, let us be honest. SDE is of course the best of the best. But just let us call it endgame gear. If your cant affort the money for an high block SDE, just go for a shield with high block. I used an SDA shield for a while and the block from one of them protect you as much as those from an SDE. So if you dont actually mind to loose a bit of HP and PM and MM for a higher block chance. I say go for it. The difference is in the end not that big.

At your level, I've made most of my armor slaughters. Mostly magnificent ones that do not cost too much money. 4 slaughters forged to 5, I finish dwd in 4100 turns. Of course only 3600+turns if I cast imperils. It's always wise to buy mag ones when you don't have budget to buy good ones. But yea, protections also work fine.

As for shields, SDE is too expensive. Actually I don't even think shield is essential at this level, since 1h has such good survivability. I would recommend any L shields that have dex. Mine was SEA but it just works fine.

I asked this some time ago. Uncle, senpai and a few other experts told me that the preference is SDE > DEA > SDA,SEA etc. if you can't afford an SDE, aim for a force DEA with at least 70% BLK.

I could go for a force shield DEA with at least 70% block but I found a force shield SDE with 84% block.
I can't afford the SDE force shield that I'm talking about because I don't have seven million credits.
I don't think that it's worth seven million credits but that's just my opinion.

It's fine using SDA, i'm using it right now....

I'm using it regardless because it's the only legendary force shield that I have right now.
Thanks.

+1 like Uncle said below...

Talking about mixed set, maybe you can try a set like in his signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Plz, senpai... Stahp! x_x

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" I finish dwd in 4100 turns. Of course only 3600+turns if I cast imperils."

I'm looking at my runs with almost 5k turns with tears in my eyes. Even mechas can cry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 18:30

3 hours is a lot... I was thinking about asking for help because DwD was taking a bit more than 1.5 hours... I have no slaughter gear (my weapon is a balance) and don't use monsturbate, and even then it felt a bit scary near the end when monsters did more than regen can heal back (though maybe I was also greedy and didn't use spirit draught as much as should have). If it takes 3 hours is there risk of dying?

3 hours is a lot... I was thinking about asking for help because DwD was taking a bit more than 1.5 hours... I have no slaughter gear (my weapon is a balance) and don't use monsturbate, and even then it felt a bit scary near the end when monsters did more than regen can heal back (though maybe I was also greedy and didn't use spirit draught as much as should have). If it takes 3 hours is there risk of dying?

Yes, you can die of boredom. Just use Monsterbation, that would speed you a lot. c:

I don't think that it's worth seven million credits but that's just my opinion.

Most equipments hanging in those shopping are overpriced. Some would negotiate if you throw a pm, others whoever are greedy just don't wanna sell gear at a fair price. Usually the price you see isn't the minimum price they are willing to sell at. You know what I mean by that. You will always need to spend more when you buy from others in private than in auction, but some players just set ridiculous price that is multiple times market price.
Don't ever waste money on shit. Only shields that have at least 90% block chance deserve more than 4m.

Speaking of force shield

this one is now in Bazaar
403, Dex End Agi, Mag ranges: BLK 95%, Pmit 54%, Mmit 15%, Dex 59%, End 30%, Agi 90%

Maybe good for temp use

This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Jun 30 2018, 20:24

I think I may have found out

My weapon is not yet hollowforged

Will that deal more damage?

Yes. Yes it will. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I was wondering how on earth it could take 3 hours but still be doable... yeah, not IW 10 would do it...

I think I may have found out

My weapon is not yet hollowforged

Will that deal more damage?

Hollowforged+Infusions will ramp up your damage output.

I could go for a force shield DEA with at least 70% block but I found a force shield SDE with 84% block.

I have one (cobalt-deflection) with 80% BLK but lv.458.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) you can PM/MM me if you want...

Plz, senpai... Stahp! x_x

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" I finish dwd in 4100 turns. Of course only 3600+turns if I cast imperils."

I'm looking at my runs with almost 5k turns with tears in my eyes. Even mechas can cry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Me : 47xx turns few weeks ago with my mixed set like right now. My clear time is 2.5 hours because i did it while watching discovery channel (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Most equipments hanging in those shopping are overpriced. Some would negotiate if you throw a pm, others whoever are greedy just don't wanna sell gear at a fair price. Usually the price you see isn't the minimum price they are willing to sell at. You know what I mean by that. You will always need to spend more when you buy from others in private than in auction, but some players just set ridiculous price that is multiple times market price.
Don't ever waste money on shit. Only shields that have at least 90% block chance deserve more than 4m.

+1
I did several times to some sellers and they're so kind and gave me a nice amount of discount... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I could say that turn/sec is pretty bad too
At later round, monster can outdamage my regen and Health Draughts
So, monsterbate have to pause often since I’m low on health often

As for damage
I have 4933 base dmg

Are you using the alt? It made a huge difference for me once the normal site started lagging.

Edit: Tried doing my RE in the normal site, speed difference is like 2-5x slower

This post has been edited by TygerTyger: Jul 1 2018, 04:56

Most equipments hanging in those shopping are overpriced. Some would negotiate if you throw a pm, others whoever are greedy just don't wanna sell gear at a fair price.

"Overpriced" is a weak word to describe the practices. Let's say that there's a big share of shop keepers who think that everything they have is oh so valuable because they had that one drop in a lifetime and they obviously don't go to auctions often enough.

And there are also those who are scammers on purpose, waiting for random ignorants to drop by and get hooked. Because hey the ignorant one is not very patient and very picky regarding prefix, suffix and maybe even ADB or God knows what.

But frankly we can't really blame anyone, except the ignorants who get scammed by buying randomly without the advice of an expert beforehand. "Caveat emptor", yada yada.

I remember Noni suggesting to have some sort of place to "rate" the shops to help protecting the newbies, but I was against that due to people who would be abusing that system and a big majority of players who wouldn't give a shit to it, except to trash one shop when they're not happy. Let the players learn their mistakes by making them. And if anything too serious ever happens, we can do something against the abusive shopkeeper.