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Now that you guys are talking about it... How I'm suposed to use Vital Strike and OFC in SG arenas?

When the SG got PA and stunned, bang hit her with VS (spirit stance = ON)

I feel that OFC is a waste (I use it all the times on normal arenas tho) of OC because even with imperil they just don't die and 2 of 3 times I go out of Spirit Stance and refilling the bar feels like another waste of time.

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This is my yesterday run of DwD on PFUDOR

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2.001 t/s <- T_T

You cried because 2 t/s..???

Me : 1.2 t/s max at 1.5t/s [cry even harder] (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

How many minutes would I be able to shorten my runs doing it with a more efficient way?

Several possible way to shorten the run :
-> Change to mage style... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
-> get a better gears (slaughters).. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
-> forge your set (a little bit) to lv.5 at all stats... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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Then after imperiled only 1 PA it's fine? Nice, I guess even if they don't die the bleed will take care of them right? With my method they are already at half HP when I kill them with VS so i thought it was a waste, this is a nice advice. Thanks.

In regards to OFC I guess I'm too weak to use it in the same way, since my counters don't take out much of their HP, so when I start attacking the third her HP is still more than half I would need to alter my attacks between the three but that would make it harder to keep track of PA stacks etc. :c

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1.5 at max? I'm sorry for you, genki-senpai. :c

But senpai, I'm poor, very poor. Don't tell to buy slaughter pieces or change to mage, you'll make me cry. >.>
Forging to 5 all my pieces it's a nice idea, tho~ Thanks I'll do that. c:

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 16:53

Then after imperiled only 1 PA it's fine? Nice, I guess even if they don't die the bleed will take care of them right? With my method they are already at half HP when I kill them with VS so i thought it was a waste, this is a nice advice. Thanks.

Well, more PA would be of course better. And i am not sure if they would bleed to death with your level. But sure as sure i would suggest to use VS quite early. I mean lets say we have an SG with 10K HP, you hit it until it has 5K and use VS to kill it. But VS did made 6.5K damage. So 1.5k damage would just be wasted. And i just used these numbers as example.

In regards to OFC I guess I'm too weak to use it in the same way, since my counters don't take out much of their HP,

And so is mine. When i talk about weaked i mean imperil, PA, stun and VS, by that way they are not death, well except of Kontana who does survive not that often. But right after VS you switch to the next SG to weak it with normal attacks, when cooldown of VS is off switch to the last SG imperil, VS and OFC For me this is mostly good enough to kill the whole round and save the some turns. With a bit luck i can make the whole DwD run one to two minutes faster as without this method.

so when I start attacking the third her HP is still more than half I would need to alter my attacks between the three but that would make it harder to keep track of PA stacks etc. :c

Well of course you should just change your target after it has lost quite a bit of its HP and dont waste time by PA the first one again. Imperil should still be on and that should be enough. At least it is most of the time for me. Just try it out. I mean the worst that could happen is that you notice, that your damage is still not hight enough and you have to wait until you are able to use OFC against the SG at all. But i dont use it most of the time myself. SG have just too much HP for it. Maybe this is different with the Manehattan Project. But i doubt that would be worth 25k hath-

But senpai, I'm poor, very poor. Don't tell to buy slaughter pieces or change to mage, you'll make me cry. >.>

Well, you dont actually need Slaughter pieces that much. There is an uncle who dont even us a single Slaughter piece in his Set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Then after imperiled only 1 PA it's fine?

Nope, it has to be PA+stunned, because "stunned" means SG can't evade/resist/block (?) your bang VS and spirit stance [ON] + heartseeker buff, you can inflict 70%-80% crit damage. I saw my bang VS hit one like 750k-800k void damage (crit)...

1.5 at max? I'm sorry for you, genki-senpai. :c

But senpai, I'm poor, very poor. Don't tell to buy slaughter pieces or change to mage, you'll make me cry. >.>
Forging to 5 all my pieces it's a nice idea, tho~ Thanks I'll do that. c:

Yes.., i'm sorry too to myself and my internet provider... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

And yes, i'm not that rich too, so i mixed my set and forge them a little... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, more PA would be of course better. And i am not sure if they would bleed to death with your level. But sure as sure i would suggest to use VS quite early. I mean lets say we have an SG with 10K HP, you hit it until it has 5K and use VS to kill it. But VS did made 6.5K damage. So 1.5k damage would just be wasted. And i just used these numbers as example.

Ok, now I understand it better.

And so is mine. When i talk about weaked i mean imperil, PA, stun and VS, by that way they are not death, well except of Kontana who does survive not that often. But right after VS you switch to the next SG to weak it with normal attacks, when cooldown of VS is off switch to the last SG imperil, VS and OFC For me this is mostly good enough to kill the whole round and save the some turns. With a bit luck i can make the whole DwD run one to two minutes faster as without this method.

If I do the last part "VS -> OFC" next round I'll be out of spirit stance right? I'm right if I assume that it isn't a big problem since OFC saves more time than the one wasted refilling the OC bar. (?)

Well, you dont actually need Slaughter pieces that much. There is an uncle who dont even us a single Slaughter piece in his Set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

And that uncle it's youuu~~~ ♪ (<- This is from a popular song in my country).

It's good to hear it.

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I was refering to only the number of stacks of PA, since I know VS only works as expected on stunned monsters.
And I guess "mixed sets" are fine right? I'm using 3 "of protections" and 2 "of warding" cuz yolo.

Good luck with your internet, senpai. c:

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 17:39

What does anybody think about force shields with SDA pabs?
I know that force shields with SDE pabs are generally better but can't afford the high price for them now.

This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jun 30 2018, 17:58

If I do the last part "VS -> OFC" next round I'll be out of spirit stance right? I'm right if I assume that it isn't a big problem since OFC saves more time than the one wasted refilling the OC bar. (?)
And that uncle it's youuu~~~ ♪ (<- This is from a popular song in my country).

Probably. But i am quite often out of spirit stance in the SG arenas and it was never really a problem for me. So my guess would be that when it works as expected it would save you some time.

And that uncle it's youuu~~~ ♪ (<- This is from a popular song in my country).
It's good to hear it.

Well of course it is. It is about an uncle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

And I guess "mixed sets" are fine right? I'm using 3 "of protections" and 2 "of warding" cuz yolo.

Well, tbh i wouldnt even suggest using a pure warding or protection set. Okay, it doesnt matter later on when people switch from a defensive set to a full slaughter set but at your level i would go for defense above damage.

Actually "It's good to hear it." was an answer to this:

Well, you dont actually need Slaughter pieces that much. There is an uncle who dont even us a single Slaughter piece in his Set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

But, yes. It's a nice song. c:

Well, tbh i wouldnt even suggest using a pure warding or protection set. Okay, it doesnt matter later on when people switch from a defensive set to a full slaughter set but at your level i would go for defense above damage.

Got it!

What does anybody think about force shields with SDA pabs?
I know that force shields with SDE pabs are generally better but can't afford the high price for them now.

I asked this some time ago. Uncle, senpai and a few other experts told me that the preference is SDE > DEA > SDA,SEA etc. if you can't afford an SDE, aim for a force DEA with at least 70% BLK.

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 18:06

And I guess "mixed sets" are fine right? I'm using 3 "of protections" and 2 "of warding" cuz yolo.

+1 like Uncle said below...

Talking about mixed set, maybe you can try a set like in his signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Well, tbh i wouldnt even suggest using a pure warding or protection set. Okay, it doesnt matter later on when people switch from a defensive set to a full slaughter set but at your level i would go for defense above damage.

Good luck with your internet, senpai. c:

Thank you.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What does anybody think about force shields with SDA pabs?
I know that force shields with SDE pabs are generally better but can't afford the high price for them now.

It's fine using SDA, i'm using it right now....

Well, let us be honest. SDE is of course the best of the best. But just let us call it endgame gear. If your cant affort the money for an high block SDE, just go for a shield with high block. I used an SDA shield for a while and the block from one of them protect you as much as those from an SDE. So if you dont actually mind to loose a bit of HP and PM and MM for a higher block chance. I say go for it. The difference is in the end not that big.

At your level, I've made most of my armor slaughters. Mostly magnificent ones that do not cost too much money. 4 slaughters forged to 5, I finish dwd in 4100 turns. Of course only 3600+turns if I cast imperils. It's always wise to buy mag ones when you don't have budget to buy good ones. But yea, protections also work fine.

As for shields, SDE is too expensive. Actually I don't even think shield is essential at this level, since 1h has such good survivability. I would recommend any L shields that have dex. Mine was SEA but it just works fine.

I asked this some time ago. Uncle, senpai and a few other experts told me that the preference is SDE > DEA > SDA,SEA etc. if you can't afford an SDE, aim for a force DEA with at least 70% BLK.

I could go for a force shield DEA with at least 70% block but I found a force shield SDE with 84% block.
I can't afford the SDE force shield that I'm talking about because I don't have seven million credits.
I don't think that it's worth seven million credits but that's just my opinion.

It's fine using SDA, i'm using it right now....

I'm using it regardless because it's the only legendary force shield that I have right now.
Thanks.

+1 like Uncle said below...

Talking about mixed set, maybe you can try a set like in his signature (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Plz, senpai... Stahp! x_x

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" I finish dwd in 4100 turns. Of course only 3600+turns if I cast imperils."

I'm looking at my runs with almost 5k turns with tears in my eyes. Even mechas can cry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 18:30

3 hours is a lot... I was thinking about asking for help because DwD was taking a bit more than 1.5 hours... I have no slaughter gear (my weapon is a balance) and don't use monsturbate, and even then it felt a bit scary near the end when monsters did more than regen can heal back (though maybe I was also greedy and didn't use spirit draught as much as should have). If it takes 3 hours is there risk of dying?

3 hours is a lot... I was thinking about asking for help because DwD was taking a bit more than 1.5 hours... I have no slaughter gear (my weapon is a balance) and don't use monsturbate, and even then it felt a bit scary near the end when monsters did more than regen can heal back (though maybe I was also greedy and didn't use spirit draught as much as should have). If it takes 3 hours is there risk of dying?

Yes, you can die of boredom. Just use Monsterbation, that would speed you a lot. c:

I don't think that it's worth seven million credits but that's just my opinion.

Most equipments hanging in those shopping are overpriced. Some would negotiate if you throw a pm, others whoever are greedy just don't wanna sell gear at a fair price. Usually the price you see isn't the minimum price they are willing to sell at. You know what I mean by that. You will always need to spend more when you buy from others in private than in auction, but some players just set ridiculous price that is multiple times market price.
Don't ever waste money on shit. Only shields that have at least 90% block chance deserve more than 4m.

Speaking of force shield

this one is now in Bazaar
403, Dex End Agi, Mag ranges: BLK 95%, Pmit 54%, Mmit 15%, Dex 59%, End 30%, Agi 90%

Maybe good for temp use

This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Jun 30 2018, 20:24

I think I may have found out

My weapon is not yet hollowforged

Will that deal more damage?

Yes. Yes it will. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I was wondering how on earth it could take 3 hours but still be doable... yeah, not IW 10 would do it...