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Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

Imo :

No-SG : pfudor
SG : below pfudor or maybe below iwbth...

No-SG : pfudor
SG : below pfudor or maybe below iwbth...

I would even say go down to Hell. I mean damned. Three hours. I still remember how it feels playing DwD for that long. As if it would never end. And that is a terrible feeling.

Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

What is causing the long clearing time?

Low turns per second or low damage?:/

Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

If better gear/connection is not an option consider IWBTH, it's much easier. Going below hell is not advisable since you get significant drop penalties.

What is causing the long clearing time?

Low turns per second or low damage?:/

I could say that turn/sec is pretty bad too
At later round, monster can outdamage my regen and Health Draughts
So, monsterbate have to pause often since I’m low on health often

As for damage
I have 4933 base dmg

Do you use Imperil and Vital Strike against SG?

Do you use Imperil and Vital Strike against SG?

Yes, I do

I could say that turn/sec is pretty bad too
At later round, monster can outdamage my regen and Health Draughts
So, monsterbate have to pause often since I’m low on health often

As for damage
I have 4933 base dmg

My Philosophy - Always do the highest difficulties I can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(I think) Quality of drops depends on difficulties as well as the Arena you are doing. If I am not able to do a full Arena run because of limited time, I will start from the last (DwD).

Regen issue:
I am playing with 1H style. For the last 3 Arenas when the Schoolgirls are starting to appear, I just kill all the non-SG monster with Spirit Stance OFC in the first turn so my HP rarely drops to the emergency stop level (I set it to 50%).

Do you use Imperil and Vital Strike against SG?

Never used Imperil until lately just for proficiency grinding.:/

Never used Imperil until lately just for proficiency grinding.:/

Against SG it is quite usefull. I suggest to use it. I do it myself.

Against SG it is quite usefull. I suggest to use it. I do it myself.

I could not afford to kill SGs before OFC cooldowns that why I didn't use it at all

Now that i think about it. Twin Divas you could also use infusions on your weapon. That should increase your damage output by quite a bit.

Now that i think about it. Twin Divas you could also use infusions on your weapon. That should increase your damage output by quite a bit.

Well, it the 3 hours are real it would mean around ~11 infusions.
I'm not sure it would be really cost-effective.

Anyway, 3 hours seems a bit too much, how many turns are we talking about?
And at level ~330 the last DwD rounds while not easy shouldn't be that impossible with decent equipments and a bit of forging (are we talking about 1H right?).

Well, it the 3 hours are real it would mean around ~11 infusions.
I'm not sure it would be really cost-effective.

Anyway, 3 hours seems a bit too much, how many turns are we talking about?
And at level ~330 the last DwD rounds while not easy shouldn't be that impossible with decent equipments and a bit of forging (are we talking about 1H right?).

I think he just have real bad ts.

I took 90 minutes when I first reached level 300. Back then I had around 4300 attack base damage.

(I think we are talking about 1H Style)

Well, it the 3 hours are real it would mean around ~11 infusions.
I'm not sure it would be really cost-effective.

But i was also suggesting reduce the difficulty down to Hell.

Anyway, 3 hours seems a bit too much, how many turns are we talking about?
And at level ~330 the last DwD rounds while not easy shouldn't be that impossible with decent equipments and a bit of forging (are we talking about 1H right?).

When i was his level i did need the same time. 1H but all on all nothing but shitty equipment, together with not the best connection and you can easy come to three hours of even more. And he answered that he do vital strike, so yes we are talking about 1H.

Now that you guys are talking about it... How I'm suposed to use Vital Strike and OFC in SG arenas? I feel that OFC is a waste (I use it all the time on normal arenas tho) of OC because even with imperil they just don't die and 2 of 3 times I go out of Spirit Stance and refilling the bar feels like another waste of time. The way I clear DwD is "attack SG until they have 2 or 3 stacks of PA and then use Vital Strike" I don't even use imperil. How do you guys would describe an "ideal round"? Imperil on everything? or just on SG's? OFC when it's availble? or only when after use you're still on spirit stance (full oc)? So many questions...

This is my yesterday run of DwD on PFUDOR

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2.001 t/s <- T_T

How many minutes would I be able to shorten my runs doing it with a more efficient way? If its not much maybe I'll stick with my current method since it's a pretty relaxed way and I can do it while replying to my telegram messages or something else. Thanks in advance for any feedback

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 17:43

Well vital strike is imo quite easy. So lets say we have a round with just a single SG. Imperil a few hits until i get at least one PA debuff wait for the stun and hit it. With more SG i dont imperil all of them and Konata as the weakest SG i just sometimes even with normal attacks during the cooldown.

OFC is a hard question. Imo there is no easy way to use the OFC in the SG arenas. Mostly i use it just in the DwD rounds with three SG when they are all mostly death, or allready weakend with imperil and PA. But it can save you quite some turns if you use it at the right time.

Now that you guys are talking about it... How I'm suposed to use Vital Strike and OFC in SG arenas?

When the SG got PA and stunned, bang hit her with VS (spirit stance = ON)

I feel that OFC is a waste (I use it all the times on normal arenas tho) of OC because even with imperil they just don't die and 2 of 3 times I go out of Spirit Stance and refilling the bar feels like another waste of time.

+1

This is my yesterday run of DwD on PFUDOR

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2.001 t/s <- T_T

You cried because 2 t/s..???

Me : 1.2 t/s max at 1.5t/s [cry even harder] (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

How many minutes would I be able to shorten my runs doing it with a more efficient way?

Several possible way to shorten the run :
-> Change to mage style... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
-> get a better gears (slaughters).. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
-> forge your set (a little bit) to lv.5 at all stats... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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Then after imperiled only 1 PA it's fine? Nice, I guess even if they don't die the bleed will take care of them right? With my method they are already at half HP when I kill them with VS so i thought it was a waste, this is a nice advice. Thanks.

In regards to OFC I guess I'm too weak to use it in the same way, since my counters don't take out much of their HP, so when I start attacking the third her HP is still more than half I would need to alter my attacks between the three but that would make it harder to keep track of PA stacks etc. :c

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1.5 at max? I'm sorry for you, genki-senpai. :c

But senpai, I'm poor, very poor. Don't tell to buy slaughter pieces or change to mage, you'll make me cry. >.>
Forging to 5 all my pieces it's a nice idea, tho~ Thanks I'll do that. c:

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 16:53

Then after imperiled only 1 PA it's fine? Nice, I guess even if they don't die the bleed will take care of them right? With my method they are already at half HP when I kill them with VS so i thought it was a waste, this is a nice advice. Thanks.

Well, more PA would be of course better. And i am not sure if they would bleed to death with your level. But sure as sure i would suggest to use VS quite early. I mean lets say we have an SG with 10K HP, you hit it until it has 5K and use VS to kill it. But VS did made 6.5K damage. So 1.5k damage would just be wasted. And i just used these numbers as example.

In regards to OFC I guess I'm too weak to use it in the same way, since my counters don't take out much of their HP,

And so is mine. When i talk about weaked i mean imperil, PA, stun and VS, by that way they are not death, well except of Kontana who does survive not that often. But right after VS you switch to the next SG to weak it with normal attacks, when cooldown of VS is off switch to the last SG imperil, VS and OFC For me this is mostly good enough to kill the whole round and save the some turns. With a bit luck i can make the whole DwD run one to two minutes faster as without this method.

so when I start attacking the third her HP is still more than half I would need to alter my attacks between the three but that would make it harder to keep track of PA stacks etc. :c

Well of course you should just change your target after it has lost quite a bit of its HP and dont waste time by PA the first one again. Imperil should still be on and that should be enough. At least it is most of the time for me. Just try it out. I mean the worst that could happen is that you notice, that your damage is still not hight enough and you have to wait until you are able to use OFC against the SG at all. But i dont use it most of the time myself. SG have just too much HP for it. Maybe this is different with the Manehattan Project. But i doubt that would be worth 25k hath-

But senpai, I'm poor, very poor. Don't tell to buy slaughter pieces or change to mage, you'll make me cry. >.>

Well, you dont actually need Slaughter pieces that much. There is an uncle who dont even us a single Slaughter piece in his Set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Then after imperiled only 1 PA it's fine?

Nope, it has to be PA+stunned, because "stunned" means SG can't evade/resist/block (?) your bang VS and spirit stance [ON] + heartseeker buff, you can inflict 70%-80% crit damage. I saw my bang VS hit one like 750k-800k void damage (crit)...

1.5 at max? I'm sorry for you, genki-senpai. :c

But senpai, I'm poor, very poor. Don't tell to buy slaughter pieces or change to mage, you'll make me cry. >.>
Forging to 5 all my pieces it's a nice idea, tho~ Thanks I'll do that. c:

Yes.., i'm sorry too to myself and my internet provider... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

And yes, i'm not that rich too, so i mixed my set and forge them a little... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)