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Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty
Which is more efficient?

Three hours is really a lot. I would switch difficulty.

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

Imo this would be Hell.

Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

Have a look at the Loot Drop Rolls for equipment drops

Difficulty
Nintendo and above have 0% chance for Fair/Crude
Nightmare and below have 0% chance for Legendary/Peerless
Arena clears have a very low chance for Legendary even on Normal

This post has been edited by monkey_lmf: Jun 30 2018, 12:52

Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

Please define "efficient".

Please define "efficient".

Getting the most from time spent

Assuming stamina don’t matter



Edit : The most means credits, gear, items and exp while considering cost of consumable as well.

This post has been edited by Twin Divas: Jun 30 2018, 13:14

Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

Imo :

No-SG : pfudor
SG : below pfudor or maybe below iwbth...

No-SG : pfudor
SG : below pfudor or maybe below iwbth...

I would even say go down to Hell. I mean damned. Three hours. I still remember how it feels playing DwD for that long. As if it would never end. And that is a terrible feeling.

Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

What is causing the long clearing time?

Low turns per second or low damage?:/

Between playing in PFUDOR which will take me 3 hours to play DwD or playing in easier difficulty

Which is more efficient?

Also, is there a diff where I shouldn’t go below?

If better gear/connection is not an option consider IWBTH, it's much easier. Going below hell is not advisable since you get significant drop penalties.

What is causing the long clearing time?

Low turns per second or low damage?:/

I could say that turn/sec is pretty bad too
At later round, monster can outdamage my regen and Health Draughts
So, monsterbate have to pause often since I’m low on health often

As for damage
I have 4933 base dmg

Do you use Imperil and Vital Strike against SG?

Do you use Imperil and Vital Strike against SG?

Yes, I do

I could say that turn/sec is pretty bad too
At later round, monster can outdamage my regen and Health Draughts
So, monsterbate have to pause often since I’m low on health often

As for damage
I have 4933 base dmg

My Philosophy - Always do the highest difficulties I can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(I think) Quality of drops depends on difficulties as well as the Arena you are doing. If I am not able to do a full Arena run because of limited time, I will start from the last (DwD).

Regen issue:
I am playing with 1H style. For the last 3 Arenas when the Schoolgirls are starting to appear, I just kill all the non-SG monster with Spirit Stance OFC in the first turn so my HP rarely drops to the emergency stop level (I set it to 50%).

Do you use Imperil and Vital Strike against SG?

Never used Imperil until lately just for proficiency grinding.:/

Never used Imperil until lately just for proficiency grinding.:/

Against SG it is quite usefull. I suggest to use it. I do it myself.

Against SG it is quite usefull. I suggest to use it. I do it myself.

I could not afford to kill SGs before OFC cooldowns that why I didn't use it at all

Now that i think about it. Twin Divas you could also use infusions on your weapon. That should increase your damage output by quite a bit.

Now that i think about it. Twin Divas you could also use infusions on your weapon. That should increase your damage output by quite a bit.

Well, it the 3 hours are real it would mean around ~11 infusions.
I'm not sure it would be really cost-effective.

Anyway, 3 hours seems a bit too much, how many turns are we talking about?
And at level ~330 the last DwD rounds while not easy shouldn't be that impossible with decent equipments and a bit of forging (are we talking about 1H right?).

Well, it the 3 hours are real it would mean around ~11 infusions.
I'm not sure it would be really cost-effective.

Anyway, 3 hours seems a bit too much, how many turns are we talking about?
And at level ~330 the last DwD rounds while not easy shouldn't be that impossible with decent equipments and a bit of forging (are we talking about 1H right?).

I think he just have real bad ts.

I took 90 minutes when I first reached level 300. Back then I had around 4300 attack base damage.

(I think we are talking about 1H Style)

Well, it the 3 hours are real it would mean around ~11 infusions.
I'm not sure it would be really cost-effective.

But i was also suggesting reduce the difficulty down to Hell.

Anyway, 3 hours seems a bit too much, how many turns are we talking about?
And at level ~330 the last DwD rounds while not easy shouldn't be that impossible with decent equipments and a bit of forging (are we talking about 1H right?).

When i was his level i did need the same time. 1H but all on all nothing but shitty equipment, together with not the best connection and you can easy come to three hours of even more. And he answered that he do vital strike, so yes we are talking about 1H.

Now that you guys are talking about it... How I'm suposed to use Vital Strike and OFC in SG arenas? I feel that OFC is a waste (I use it all the time on normal arenas tho) of OC because even with imperil they just don't die and 2 of 3 times I go out of Spirit Stance and refilling the bar feels like another waste of time. The way I clear DwD is "attack SG until they have 2 or 3 stacks of PA and then use Vital Strike" I don't even use imperil. How do you guys would describe an "ideal round"? Imperil on everything? or just on SG's? OFC when it's availble? or only when after use you're still on spirit stance (full oc)? So many questions...

This is my yesterday run of DwD on PFUDOR

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2.001 t/s <- T_T

How many minutes would I be able to shorten my runs doing it with a more efficient way? If its not much maybe I'll stick with my current method since it's a pretty relaxed way and I can do it while replying to my telegram messages or something else. Thanks in advance for any feedback

This post has been edited by Xythuard: Jun 30 2018, 17:43

Well vital strike is imo quite easy. So lets say we have a round with just a single SG. Imperil a few hits until i get at least one PA debuff wait for the stun and hit it. With more SG i dont imperil all of them and Konata as the weakest SG i just sometimes even with normal attacks during the cooldown.

OFC is a hard question. Imo there is no easy way to use the OFC in the SG arenas. Mostly i use it just in the DwD rounds with three SG when they are all mostly death, or allready weakend with imperil and PA. But it can save you quite some turns if you use it at the right time.