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Jun 25 2018, 12:13
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Jun 25 2018, 08:27)  the only reason shortsword might not outperform rapier at the highest levels is if penetrating armor also increases damage from counter attacks(im not sure about this)
Of course it does, PA doesn't increase your damage, it decreases monster physical defense, so every physical attack (normal, skill, counters) will benefit from it. Anyway, a loooong time ago I estimated the difference between rapier and shortsword to be around 5% when playing normally (no imperil, no skills). I don't think high forging or DD perk really changes this difference. A fully forged shortsword build has ~4% more ADB than a fully forged rapier build. This, imho, will never be enough to compensate for the loss of PA, unless you use some specific style (like 1H + imperil).
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Jun 25 2018, 12:28
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jun 25 2018, 12:13)  Of course it does, PA doesn't increase your damage, it decreases monster physical defense, so every physical attack (normal, skill, counters) will benefit from it.
True. But we should not forget that most counter attacks will just hit monster that has no PA debuff therefore counterattacks benefit not fully but only to a limited degree from PA.
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Jun 26 2018, 18:15
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PersonaFan08
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I'm not playing hentaiverse on pfudor but I still want to know which one is harder?
PFUDOR Arena or PFUDOR Grindfest?
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Jun 26 2018, 18:25
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_LMF_
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jun 27 2018, 00:15)  I'm not playing hentaiverse on pfudor but I still want to know which one is harder?
PFUDOR Arena or PFUDOR Grindfest?
Copy and Paste from the Wiki Arena: Monsters do not get stronger as the rounds progress; they remain at 100% strength at all times. GF: Monster damage starts at 50%(?) base and increases by 0.4%(?) per round. IW: Monster damage starts at 100% base and increases by 2%(?) per round. Hmm you can do the maths (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 26 2018, 18:35
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Uncle Stu
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The last rounds of GF PFUDOR is the hardest challenge this game has to offer. So far. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jun 26 2018, 18:36
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Jun 27 2018, 20:18
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Kinights
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Should I use this piece of equip as a mage, or am I better off looking for a radiand/charged piece, and/or a phase of heimdall one for the pants slot? Also, is this staff decent for the time being?
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Jun 27 2018, 20:52
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Noni
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Jun 27 2018, 20:18)  Should I use this piece of equip as a mage, or am I better off looking for a radiand/charged piece, and/or a phase of heimdall one for the pants slot? Also, is this staff decent for the time being? Don't invest in cloth until you find a good staff, that's my advice. And that's not a good staff. The pants are good, just not great. With full prof, you could use a peerless robe to get relatively close to 1.0 prof factor. But pants, you always need 2 slots. Then I'd prefer shoes + cap or shoes + gloves. Not pants.
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Jun 27 2018, 21:07
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Kinights
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 27 2018, 15:52)  Don't invest in cloth until you find a good staff, that's my advice. And that's not a good staff. The pants are good, just not great. With full prof, you could use a peerless robe to get relatively close to 1.0 prof factor. But pants, you always need 2 slots. Then I'd prefer shoes + cap or shoes + gloves. Not pants.
Okay, thank you. Just wondering if things changed with new 600 prof cap. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 27 2018, 22:11
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Noni
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Jun 27 2018, 21:07)  Okay, thank you. Just wondering if things changed with new 600 prof cap. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) No, I was referring to the 600 cap: you need robe, and even then you won't get 1.0 exactly.
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Jun 28 2018, 03:26
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hentailover6983
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Sooo, I am pretty much upgrading only my Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter, since I don't have the necessary materials for my other equipment, but all of them are essentially Magnificent and higher.
Is there ANY reason to have Low-grade materials of any kind? What do the low-grade materials upgrade tier-wise?
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Jun 28 2018, 04:13
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LogJammin
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Jun 28 2018, 01:26)  Sooo, I am pretty much upgrading only my Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter, since I don't have the necessary materials for my other equipment, but all of them are essentially Magnificent and higher.
Is there ANY reason to have Low-grade materials of any kind? What do the low-grade materials upgrade tier-wise?
Low grade is needed for Magnificent and below I believe. I think PXP0 determines the specific amount of each type needed. They're also definitely good for grinding forge XP on Averages. +5 every stat on an average, salvage to get most of the mats back, rinse, repeat.
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Jun 28 2018, 13:38
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Jun 28 2018, 04:13)  Low grade is needed for Magnificent and below I believe.
Yeah, i just did take a look at a Mag and it need 4 LG and 2 MG at the start. But later on they need less and less LG and will start even to need HG mat. No sure if the lower tiers would also need HG mats at the end, but with 100 level of damae to upgrade if would assume they do.
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Jun 28 2018, 18:46
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Uncle Stu
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Just thought about that. But you have also keep in mind the catalist do the same. When you beginn to upgrade a Leg equipment Robust is enough, but iirc after upgrade 15 they start to need Vibrant and some level later they want even coruscating catalyst.
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Jun 28 2018, 22:33
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Kinights
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How does Jenga's monster database work?
I would like to start scanning monsters more to be sure mine are properly appearing in battle as well.
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Jun 28 2018, 22:41
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Uncle Stu
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Use the monsterbation script and scan them, so of course you have to meet them by yourself.
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Jun 29 2018, 17:50
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Atypical
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What is the minimum requirement for a mage to clear PFfest at a normal cost(whatever potions and scrolls, but less than 5 Elixirs, )
My status 4026 magic base damage 62.9% physical mitigation 65.3% magical mitigation 55.4% evade chance 18.9% parry chance 63% resist chance 294.5% elec 717 elemental
I can only reach 450rounds when all my phase armors were 5 forged. Then I made my robe and pants 15 forged and tried again. But it seemed that didn't make any sense. So I wonder what should I do next, forging staff or armors? Or just changing all armors to charged ones?
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Jun 29 2018, 18:14
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Noni
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QUOTE(lkwucong @ Jun 29 2018, 17:50)  What is the minimum requirement for a mage to clear PFfest at a normal cost(whatever potions and scrolls, but less than 5 Elixirs, )
My status 4026 magic base damage 62.9% physical mitigation 65.3% magical mitigation 55.4% evade chance 18.9% parry chance 63% resist chance 294.5% elec 717 elemental
I can only reach 450rounds when all my phase armors were 5 forged. Then I made my robe and pants 15 forged and tried again. But it seemed that didn't make any sense. So I wonder what should I do next, forging staff or armors? Or just changing all armors to charged ones?
Your prof factor is good. What really sucks is our evade. And your cast speed. Do you at least have pen5spel4 on your staff? Forge the shit out of those phases, and get to 63+ evade. and forge your EDB while you're at it, 350+ at least. Next to that, if you want to play PFUDOR fest comfortly, you need charged gear. With 4 charged cloths + the heavy forging, you will be able to play to round 1000. 5 charged even better. This post has been edited by DJNoni: Jun 29 2018, 18:15
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Jun 29 2018, 18:18
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Kinights @ Jun 28 2018, 22:33)  How does Jenga's monster database work?
I would like to start scanning monsters more to be sure mine are properly appearing in battle as well.
Only three of your monsters have been scanned recently: [ hvlist.niblseed.com] https://hvlist.niblseed.com/?selectby=train...&orderbyb=1
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Jun 29 2018, 19:16
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Atypical
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 29 2018, 18:14)  Your prof factor is good. What really sucks is our evade. And your cast speed. Do you at least have pen5spel4 on your staff?
Forge the shit out of those phases, and get to 63+ evade. and forge your EDB while you're at it, 350+ at least.
Next to that, if you want to play PFUDOR fest comfortly, you need charged gear. With 4 charged cloths + the heavy forging, you will be able to play to round 1000. 5 charged even better.
I do have pen5spel4. You can see it blow. Is the standard for Lv500? I have a calculation, even though all get full forged, I only have 60 evade and 335 EDB at my level. In fact, my question is if I could be able to clear PFfest just by forging the bad-roll phases I'm using. You know, a good-roll charged phase of mjolnir is quite expensive, maybe 10M or more. I prefer to buy CPs with those credits
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