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Jun 24 2018, 10:04
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Cleavs
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Friendly reminding that everything around B+F>=8 is good enough to be kept. QUOTE(Zerozero204 @ Jun 24 2018, 09:29)  Here's one of the high price swords I mentioned. https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=201229Lv444 Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter ADB 98% 36m That's a high tier estoc, and in a shop. Price tag doesn't necessarily reflect its value, but surely nothing to do with 1h
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Jun 24 2018, 10:07
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Noni
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QUOTE(Zerozero204 @ Jun 24 2018, 09:29)  Yes, that does help me. Thanks for the help guys. 2. You don't want attack speed bonus with 1H heavy. That makes no sense. Get the bonus. Get ALL the bonuses.
No, that is not how 1h style works. You need to be slow! You can only attack one monster at a time. But each moment that you don't attack, all monsters will attack you and get blocked and parried. So they die and you get overcharge for permanent spirit stance. If you are fast and light weight, you get less overcharge and monsters take more time to die.
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Jun 24 2018, 10:09
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PersonaFan08
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My forge level is extremely low (level 0) so I'm going to do something about it by forging anyway I have a high level 1-h slaughter weapon with 92% adb that I can't use yet but could always soulfuse it when I get to level 400.
I don't have any slaughter bindings that I can use unfortunately because my monsters have yet to give me any of those but I do have other bindings that I can use for it just laying around gathering dust basically.
I know where I can buy them but don't want to spend credits on buying them right now.
I'm thinking about trying my luck to forge it and IW all by myself without asking for help.
It's not a rapier so should I try to get butcher and fatality or something else entirely?
Please don't bother to persuade me to replace it with a rapier regardless of there being one out there someday or right now with even higher adb.
This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jun 24 2018, 10:16
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Jun 24 2018, 10:23
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KitsuneAbby
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You don't need any binding to forge until Forge 5. You do need rare materials for rare armors though.
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Jun 24 2018, 11:49
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igs88
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 24 2018, 15:04)  Friendly reminding that everything around B+F>=8 is good enough to be kept.
Thank you very much... And then.......-> QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 24 2018, 15:07)  No, that is not how 1h style works. You need to be slow! You can only attack one monster at a time. But each moment that you don't attack, all monsters will attack you and get blocked and parried. So they die and you get overcharge for permanent spirit stance. If you are fast and light weight, you get less overcharge and monsters take more time to die.
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) heh... this means i have to and must redo the iw for my windy... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jun 24 2018, 15:09)  My forge level is extremely low (level 0) so I'm going to do something about it by forging anyway I have a high level 1-h slaughter weapon with 92% adb that I can't use yet but could always soulfuse it when I get to level 400. .
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's nice adb... And forge level 0 till now? For real? Why not forging your armor set first? ah.., i guess what decon said is right..., sorry... QUOTE(decondelite @ Jun 24 2018, 15:23)  You don't need any binding to forge until Forge 5. You do need rare materials for rare armors though.
This is what i did back then to all my low tier/level weapon, all lv.5 then stop. Buy new better one, salvage the old one and use the mats to forge the new better one.. and so on... This post has been edited by igs88: Jun 24 2018, 11:53
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Jun 24 2018, 12:11
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 24 2018, 11:49)  Thank you very much... And then.......-> (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) heh... this means i have to and must redo the iw for my windy... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) friendly reminding that speed bonus is mostly eaten away by BUR. so it's mostly just a waste of potencies. if your weapon is not endgame and you already achieved nice butcher/fatality, don't bother reforging for 1 or 2 swifts.
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Jun 24 2018, 12:41
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igs88
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 24 2018, 17:11)  friendly reminding that speed bonus is mostly eaten away by BUR. so it's mostly just a waste of potencies. if your weapon is not endgame and you already achieved nice butcher/fatality, don't bother reforging for 1 or 2 swifts.
I see.., i never thought that swifties will be eaten by burden... Thank you very much... Ah.., i wish i have the credits to buy that one of end-game PTRS/LERS/LARS... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) ××××××××_edit_××××××××× Between these, which one should i choose? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) LERSLHRSLERSLARS and PTRS are far from my reach.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by igs88: Jun 24 2018, 12:51
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Jun 24 2018, 15:34
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Jun 24 2018, 13:24)  The first one
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Jun 24 2018, 15:57
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igs88
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Jun 24 2018, 18:24)  The first one
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 24 2018, 20:34)  ^
77% void damage? Why not the 90%? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jun 24 2018, 16:00
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 24 2018, 10:04)  Friendly reminding that everything around B+F>=8 is good enough to be kept.
I am well aware, i mean i did say that B5F4 is the optimal for high damage rapiers. QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 24 2018, 15:57)  77% void damage? Why not the 90%? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Wait. Ehm. Forget it. It is too early in the morning. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Jun 24 2018, 16:00
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Jun 24 2018, 17:02
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PersonaFan08
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jun 24 2018, 01:23)  You don't need any binding to forge until Forge 5. You do need rare materials for rare armors though.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that I don't need any bindings to forge until forge level 5. QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 24 2018, 02:49)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's nice adb... And forge level 0 till now? For real? Why not forging your armor set first? ah.., i guess what decon said is right..., sorry... This is what i did back then to all my low tier/level weapon, all lv.5 then stop. Buy new better one, salvage the old one and use the mats to forge the new better one.. and so on... Thanks. I also only paid 50k for that weapon. My forge level is that low mostly because I only use the forge so far to repair my weapons and armor which are damn near take forever to degrade. I barely even repair them because of this. It doesn't help that because of that repairing equipment and nothing else doesn't give you not that much xp. But I do have some exquisite/magnificent power armor that I'm going to salvage eventually and then wear a full set of my endgame legendary protection power armor set. I should train my forge level on either the exquisite or magnificent power armor. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jun 24 2018, 17:04
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Jun 24 2018, 17:04
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jun 24 2018, 17:02)  I only use the forge so far to repair my weapons and armor which are damn near take forever to degrade.
You dont play that much do you? Because i have to repair everything at least every two days.
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Jun 24 2018, 17:31
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PersonaFan08
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 24 2018, 08:04)  You dont play that much do you? Because i have to repair everything at least every two days.
It depends if I get the feeling to level up faster or do a longer arena run at a higher difficulty than my previous difficulty to get a sense of pride and accomplish. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I am playing a lot recently because I want some of my proficiencies to go even higher but I usually barely play sometimes only to play a few arena rounds or nothing else but a single random encounter. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jun 24 2018, 17:36
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Jun 24 2018, 17:39
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pooaa
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jun 24 2018, 23:31)  It depends if I get the feeling to level up faster or do a longer arena run at a higher difficulty than my previous difficulty to get a sense of pride and accomplish. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I am playing a lot recently because I want some of my proficiencies to go even higher but I usually barely play sometimes only to play a few arena rounds or nothing else but a single random encounter. I doubt if you have enough credits to forge all your endgame gear to your forge level cap and still left some credits to worry about forge level. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jun 24 2018, 17:47
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PersonaFan08
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jun 24 2018, 08:39)  I doubt if you have enough credits to forge all your endgame gear to your forge level cap and still left some credits to worry about forge level. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I only five million credits which is probably not enough to forge all of my endgame power armor set. Nobody answered on which two enhancements should I go for despite what kind of 1-h weapon that I mentioned. Is it butcher and fatality? This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jun 24 2018, 17:48
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Jun 24 2018, 18:08
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jun 24 2018, 17:47)  I only five million credits which is probably not enough to forge all of my endgame power armor set.
Nobody answered on which two enhancements should I go for despite what kind of 1-h weapon that I mentioned.
Is it butcher and fatality?
5M? That would be enough for around 50 BoS and if you buy them cheap enough even for the catalyst they need. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1H is allways about but and fat. The optimal endgame IW for a 1H weapon would be B5F4.
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Jun 24 2018, 18:36
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PersonaFan08
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 24 2018, 09:08)  5M? That would be enough for around 50 BoS and if you buy them cheap enough even for the catalyst they need. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 1H is allways about but and fat. The optimal endgame IW for a 1H weapon would be B5F4. I would only get enough for around 50 Bindings of Slaughter with five million credits that's depressing. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) So it doesn't matter which 1h weapon it is to get the most optimal IW for it would have to be Butcher 5 & Fatality 4. Thanks. This post has been edited by PersonaFan08: Jun 24 2018, 18:39
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Jun 24 2018, 18:51
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jun 24 2018, 11:36)  I would only get enough for around 50 Bindings of Slaughter with five million credits that's depressing. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) So it doesn't matter which 1h weapon it is to get the most optimal IW for it would have to be Butcher 5 & Fatality 4. Thanks. You want to IW a level 500 rapier, right? can't you wait a little for another rapier with lower level? you won't be hitting level 400 for quite a while
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Jun 24 2018, 18:56
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ Jun 24 2018, 18:36)  I would only get enough for around 50 Bindings of Slaughter with five million credits that's depressing. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) So it doesn't matter which 1h weapon it is to get the most optimal IW for it would have to be Butcher 5 & Fatality 4. Thanks. Well prices are around 100k for each BoS. And that doesnt include the catalyst or the MG and HG Metal you would also need. And when you want for forge your armor itself you would also need actuators. One for each upgrade level. So if you upgrade something to 10, you can upgrade anything up to 10 without any additional actuator. But that would be still 100 to upgrade an armor to 100%. And the optimal Endgame IW would be B5F4. If you dont actually have reached endgame damage in your stats B4F5 would be better overall. But of course that would change to B5F4 when you finaly reach endgame damage. But in the end both are good, so dont get me wrong and think that B5F4 would be something bad that had to reforged sure as sure. Because that would be a lie. I am talking about optimisation. Something that is not really suggest for most people. Because it would include things like buying a new shield for 10M or so just for another 0.5% more block chance or so. And not everyone is able to pay such prices for such low improvements if you know what i mean.
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