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post Jun 23 2018, 12:19
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Jun 23 2018, 03:26) *

couse OFC sucks for mages?

why not reselling it then? even if prices are at the hystoric minimum now, it's still 500-ish k

QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 03:38) *

Did anyone ever try 1h-heavy in mix suffix? Like [rapier of slaughter] + [force shield] + 1 power of slaughter + 1 power of balance + 1 power of protection + 1 power of warding + 1 shielding plate (maybe?)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it good combination?

yes, it has been tested. and no, it's not a good idea. while a protection piece may help you with survivability and a good balance with crits, the optimum at a certain level is given by max possible damage.
if you don't have problems with survivability (ie: because tanky enough, or because quest is not particularly hard), just boost damage.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 03:57) *

Everything sucks for mages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

sir scorpio would have a fitting joke on this topic...

QUOTE(Twin Divas @ Jun 23 2018, 07:23) *

Just noticed that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

facepalm here is quite strong... btw, it's even written on wiki.

QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Jun 23 2018, 09:16) *

About Magic Crit Chance formula

How to substitute proficiency_bonus and main_hand_Magic_Crit_Chance? I have maxed ability, and having 496 cloth prof and 15.62% crit chance (12.75 base) from staff now.

Should Cloth armor's Magic_Crit_Chance always = 0? Then whats the meaning of including then in this formula?

magic crit chance from armor comes from ability, iirc. i don't remember of armors with crit chance...

[edit]: format of the formula seems decon's. it's possible he did a copy/paste from the previous one.

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post Jun 23 2018, 12:42
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 17:19) *

yes, it has been tested. and no, it's not a good idea. while a protection piece may help you with survivability and a good balance with crits, the optimum at a certain level is given by max possible damage.
if you don't have problems with survivability (ie: because tanky enough, or because quest is not particularly hard), just boost damage.

Ah.., i see. So it's not good enough to give a max effects. I'm just curious if i can use mixed "colourful" set with different suffix. So i guess my set is good enough.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you very much... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 13:25
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 12:42) *

Ah.., i see. So it's not good enough to give a max effects. I'm just curious if i can use mixed "colourful" set with different suffix.

you can, but if it works it most likely will be due to 1H style, not to rainbow armor set.
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post Jun 23 2018, 13:33
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 13:19) *

facepalm here is quite strong... btw, it's even written on wiki.


You do realize that not everyone gets everything right off the bat even if it's "written in stone"?
Like "instead of playing HV you could be enjoying summer, or building empire of sluts, or whatever" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 14:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 18:25) *

you can, but if it works it most likely will be due to 1H style, not to rainbow armor set.


I guess it's worth to try then.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jun 23 2018, 18:33) *

You do realize that not everyone gets everything right off the bat even if it's "written in stone"?
Like "instead of playing HV you could be enjoying summer, or building empire of sluts, or whatever" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yes, like i did. I really didn't understand about SoL at all until i tried it. I casted, then just attacked with no regen or cure and the SoL kicked in and still no cure casted and then... defeated.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and when i wanted to build a mage set, i searched about everything mage build, and then i realized that it's an end game style and i'm so poor to build one far away from end... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 15:37
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jun 23 2018, 13:33) *

Like "instead of playing HV you could be enjoying summer, or building empire of sluts, or whatever" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yeah, don't tell me...
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post Jun 24 2018, 03:39
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So I was thinking of replacing my sword with a legendary rapier of slaughter. But where to find one? Something with the same stats at least, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/53060161/01545226bf
I've noticed that some can completely lack a bonus like Attack Speed, or such. (I might turn it down because the prefix, like demonic or ith, doesn't serve the style, over say, Arctic or something. Or the interference might be crazy high.) Then spending credits on an item world service player to put some levels on the sword. Then salvaging what bindings I can from my E sword to use on my L sword. I've been looking over the WTS and they seem to go for 50k-300k credits. And there are some good bargains there, but not the exact piece I want. So I could buy some of the lesser L swords, but not some of 34 million credits ones! Should I get a 500 and then soulbind it? As I'm 300 wouldn't that bring down the stats on the weapon, making it less useful and less then what was expected?
If there's any flaws in my reasoning, I assume that more-experienced player will be able to point them out.
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:07
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QUOTE(Zerozero204 @ Jun 24 2018, 08:39) *

So I was thinking of replacing my sword with a legendary rapier of slaughter. But where to find one? Something with the same stats at least, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/53060161/01545226bf
I've noticed that some can completely lack a bonus like Attack Speed, or such. (I might turn it down because the prefix, like demonic or ith, doesn't serve the style, over say, Arctic or something. Or the interference might be crazy high.) Then spending credits on an item world service player to put some levels on the sword. Then salvaging what bindings I can from my E sword to use on my L sword. I've been looking over the WTS and they seem to go for 50k-300k credits. And there are some good bargains there, but not the exact piece I want. So I could buy some of the lesser L swords, but not some of 34 million credits ones! Should I get a 500 and then soulbind it? As I'm 300 wouldn't that bring down the stats on the weapon, making it less useful and less then what was expected?
If there's any flaws in my reasoning, I assume that more-experienced player will be able to point them out.


What style do you use? Because 1h+shield don't need any attack speed or 0 interference but need (a little) burden. And where is that 34m rapier? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You are level 300, maybe you can check some replacements here , here , here
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:10
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QUOTE(Zerozero204 @ Jun 23 2018, 20:39) *

So I was thinking of replacing my sword with a legendary rapier of slaughter. But where to find one? Something with the same stats at least, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/53060161/01545226bf
I've noticed that some can completely lack a bonus like Attack Speed, or such. (I might turn it down because the prefix, like demonic or ith, doesn't serve the style, over say, Arctic or something. Or the interference might be crazy high.) Then spending credits on an item world service player to put some levels on the sword. Then salvaging what bindings I can from my E sword to use on my L sword. I've been looking over the WTS and they seem to go for 50k-300k credits. And there are some good bargains there, but not the exact piece I want. So I could buy some of the lesser L swords, but not some of 34 million credits ones! Should I get a 500 and then soulbind it? As I'm 300 wouldn't that bring down the stats on the weapon, making it less useful and less then what was expected?
If there's any flaws in my reasoning, I assume that more-experienced player will be able to point them out.


1. Yes, at your level you need to change your weapon for a magnificent/legendary rapier of slaughter (assuming you are using 1H heavy).

2. You don't want attack speed bonus with 1H heavy.

3. Demonic isn't a bad prefix, I prefer demonic/hallowed for SG arenas. <- personal opinion.

4. Less interference is more important for mages, with melee style you want low burden, with 1h heavy just below 70 is fine.

5. A rapier of slaughter will cost you 100-300k for mag and 1M-3M for a leg aprox.

6. If you can't find one around your level its fine to buy one that you can soulfuse (if you have plenty of soulfrags and said equip is decent/good).

But as I always say "I'm not an expert", take what I say with a grain of salt.

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post Jun 24 2018, 04:14
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Well you know that your rapier only has an attack speed bonus because of swift strike? And yeah, i am quite happy that my rapier doesnt have any swift strike. Even when it took me a while to get it to that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Here. BTW this rapier was a selfdrop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/141492898/634b8421ee

So, all i can tell you is, you have to wait until you find a rapier that fit your demands. Ether in a shop or in an auction. And you actually even cant soulfuse an Level 500 weapon. You would need to be at least level 400 for that. And even than you still had to soulfuse the weapon before you could even use it yourself. So dont worry about that stats going dont to scale your level because you cant change that. And also those stats would increase again when you level up. So dont worry about that too much.

Does this help you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:21
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 24 2018, 09:14) *

Well you know that your rapier only has an attack speed bonus because of swift strike? And yeah, i am quite happy that my rapier doesnt have any swift strike. Even when it took me a while to get it to that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Here. BTW this rapier was a selfdrop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/141492898/634b8421ee

So, all i can tell you is, you have to wait until you find a rapier that fit your demands. Ether in a shop or in an auction. And you actually even cant soulfuse an Level 500 weapon. You would need to be at least level 400 for that. And even than you still had to soulfuse the weapon before you could even use it yourself. So dont worry about that stats going dont to scale your level because you cant change that. And also those stats would increase again when you level up. So dont worry about that too much.

Does this help you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I see, so rapier (for 1h-shield) needs only fat-butt. I guess i have to re-iw my windy rapier... >_<
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) is that Uncle's light saber?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Jun 24 2018, 04:29
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 24 2018, 04:21) *

I see, so rapier (for 1h-shield) needs only fat-butt. I guess i have to re-iw my windy rapier... >_<
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) is that Uncle's light saber?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And only fat-but is new to you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) How did that happen? Btw but 5 fat 4 the optimal for high damage rapiers. For lower damage numbers but 4 fat 5 gives you overall a better damage output. But i would still suggest to target for But 5 Fat 4 when you dont have plans to change your rapier.

And no this is uncles Deadly Deathrapier of Deadly Death. Cant you read? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:36
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 21:14) *

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Here. BTW this rapier was a selfdrop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
[alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/141492898/634b8421ee

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Hehe~ sorry if I sound rude, but your rapier name is so Chu2~~ like "Burning Blaze Fire" or something... I like it.
And I thought "mofu mofu shield" was appealing enough... I want nice names on my equips too.
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:48
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 24 2018, 09:29) *

And only fat-but is new to you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) How did that happen? Btw but 5 fat 4 the optimal for high damage rapiers. For lower damage numbers but 4 fat 5 gives you overall a better damage output. But i would still suggest to target for But 5 Fat 4 when you dont have plans to change your rapier.

And no this is uncles Deadly Deathrapier of Deadly Death. Cant you read? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)


Ah.., don't be so angry Uncle. I lost in yesterday's auction to win that dark rapier... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) so Uncle's rapier is so shining and blinding to me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
I see.., B5F4 is the best for 1h...

QUOTE(Xythuard @ Jun 24 2018, 09:36) *

Hehe~ sorry if I sound rude, but your rapier name is so Chu2~~ like "Burning Blaze Fire" or something... I like it.
And I thought "mofu mofu shield" was appealing enough... I want nice names on my equips too.


Hoi.., Uncle's angry, don't say any name like "chunchunmaru" for a sword's name... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:57
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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Jun 24 2018, 04:36) *

Hehe~ sorry if I sound rude, but your rapier name is so Chu2~~ like "Burning Blaze Fire" or something... I like it.
And I thought "mofu mofu shield" was appealing enough... I want nice names on my equips too.

Well, still better as a "light saber", i would never name my rapier after a glorified flashlight. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Ohhhh. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I got an even better name.

QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 24 2018, 04:48) *

Ah.., don't be so angry Uncle. I lost in yesterday's auction to win that dark rapier... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) so Uncle's rapier is so shining and blinding to me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
I see.., B5F4 is the best for 1h...
Hoi.., Uncle's angry, don't say any name like "chunchunmaru" for a sword's name... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Oh, but my pride! Grr, I wish I were a carrot! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well B5F4 is best for high damage 1H aka endgame gear 1H.

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post Jun 24 2018, 05:02
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QUOTE(Genki-senpai @ Jun 23 2018, 21:48) *

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Hoi.., Uncle's angry, don't say any name like "chunchunmaru" for a sword's name... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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Genki-senpai! I'm reffering to Chu2 -> Chuunibyou. You know, like "The power of the dark dragon sealed in my hand it's going berserk". No offense intended, I think it's a cool name. u_u

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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 24 2018, 04:48) *

"chunchunmaru"

QUOTE(Xythuard @ Jun 24 2018, 05:02) *

Chuunibyou

Hm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) How do they taste?
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post Jun 24 2018, 05:07
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 22:04) *

Hm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) How do they taste?


I would say... tasty?

*jumps out of the window*

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post Jun 24 2018, 05:22
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QUOTE(Xythuard @ Jun 24 2018, 10:02) *

Genki-senpai! I'm reffering to Chu2 -> Chuunibyou. You know, like "The power of the dark dragon sealed in my hand it's going berserk". No offense intended, I think it's a cool name. u_u


Ah.., i see, i forgot that chuunibyou things.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i watched konosuba yesterday, so chunchunmaru kicked in.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and i'm your kouhai, (see my join date) btw...
QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 24 2018, 10:04) *

Hm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) How do they taste?


It's somekind bad habit/disorder of a boy/girl that has a "superpower"
QUOTE(Xythuard @ Jun 24 2018, 10:07) *

I would say... tasty?

*jumps out of the window*


Ah...
Err...

I'm sorry mods, this is going distorted a bit far away...

Anyway, @Zerozero204 you should check those shops first, they have many low level gears for you to get/buy/bid. I hope that help...

Cyao~
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post Jun 24 2018, 09:29
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Yes, that does help me. Thanks for the help guys.
2. You don't want attack speed bonus with 1H heavy.
That makes no sense. Get the bonus. Get ALL the bonuses. And if you think you don't need the bonuses, remember that the enemy AI has bonuses of their own that you have to bonus your way past if you want to win the duel.
I don't remember where I saw the 34 million rapier. I checked all the WTS pages, but didn't see anything I could afford, especially with the level cap restricting my choices of glorious weaponry...

Here's one of the high price swords I mentioned.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=201229
Lv444 Legendary Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter ADB 98% 36m

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