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post Jun 23 2018, 02:32
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Whats gonna happen if I shrined or sell my ponies. Will OFC skill disabled?
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post Jun 23 2018, 02:33
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QUOTE(jiuliuyi @ Jun 23 2018, 02:32) *

Whats gonna happen if I shrined or sell my ponies. Will OFC skill disabled?

Afaik yes it will.

A better question would be, why would someone do that?

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post Jun 23 2018, 03:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 03:33) *

A better question would be, why would someone do that?

couse OFC sucks for mages?
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post Jun 23 2018, 03:38
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 07:33) *

A better question would be, why would someone do that?



QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Jun 23 2018, 08:26) *

couse OFC sucks for mages?


Because he/she need more money or just for a shrine tests... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

My question :
Did anyone ever try 1h-heavy in mix suffix? Like [rapier of slaughter] + [force shield] + 1 power of slaughter + 1 power of balance + 1 power of protection + 1 power of warding + 1 shielding plate (maybe?)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it good combination?
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post Jun 23 2018, 03:46
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 08:38) *

My question :
Did anyone ever try 1h-heavy in mix suffix? Like [rapier of slaughter] + [force shield] + 1 power of slaughter + 1 power of balance + 1 power of protection + 1 power of warding + 1 shielding plate (maybe?)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it good combination?


It works, but if you already have all slaughter and not dying I don't see why using mixed set mmm...
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post Jun 23 2018, 03:57
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Jun 23 2018, 03:26) *

couse OFC sucks for mages?

Everything sucks for mages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 06:15
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Since mage don't use basic attack much and prefix give elemental strike on attack.

Should I care prefix of staff?
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post Jun 23 2018, 06:33
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QUOTE(Twin Divas @ Jun 23 2018, 06:15) *

Should I care prefix of staff?

Ever notice the prefix also gives Spell Damage Bonus? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 07:23
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 11:33) *

Ever notice the prefix also gives Spell Damage Bonus? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Just noticed that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 08:23
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Jun 23 2018, 02:12) *

I'm also working on a 1H mage build, and I'm not 100% certain on what to do, but I can see a few things that would help with your build. Take the following with a grain of salt.

You should get Evil Enchantress, that should help a bit with Imperil. Also, you might want to train a few levels of Assimilator to speed up the prof grind a bit. Add OFC to your spell rotation if you haven't done so yet. Physical attack affects the damage done by OFC and Counter-Attacks, so you should forge ADB on the waki a little bit, and maybe try to get But5. Getting to IW10 is probably a good idea too. Also, make sure to slot the 1H damage ability. Always use featherweight shards, and maybe Aether Shards too.


This is good advice.

Next to this, forge your evade & agility of your cloth armors. It's expensive, I know. But each time you do a couple of forge levels, you gain a couple of rounds in PFFEST. And remember, PFFEST is supposed to be extremely hard, else what would be the fun?

And in 2nd half of fest, imperil 2 times max then kill some, imperil the survivors, then kill some more.
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post Jun 23 2018, 09:16
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About Magic Crit Chance formula

How to substitute proficiency_bonus and main_hand_Magic_Crit_Chance? I have maxed ability, and having 496 cloth prof and 15.62% crit chance (12.75 base) from staff now.

Should Cloth armor's Magic_Crit_Chance always = 0? Then whats the meaning of including then in this formula?

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post Jun 23 2018, 12:19
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Jun 23 2018, 03:26) *

couse OFC sucks for mages?

why not reselling it then? even if prices are at the hystoric minimum now, it's still 500-ish k

QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 03:38) *

Did anyone ever try 1h-heavy in mix suffix? Like [rapier of slaughter] + [force shield] + 1 power of slaughter + 1 power of balance + 1 power of protection + 1 power of warding + 1 shielding plate (maybe?)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it good combination?

yes, it has been tested. and no, it's not a good idea. while a protection piece may help you with survivability and a good balance with crits, the optimum at a certain level is given by max possible damage.
if you don't have problems with survivability (ie: because tanky enough, or because quest is not particularly hard), just boost damage.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 03:57) *

Everything sucks for mages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

sir scorpio would have a fitting joke on this topic...

QUOTE(Twin Divas @ Jun 23 2018, 07:23) *

Just noticed that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

facepalm here is quite strong... btw, it's even written on wiki.

QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Jun 23 2018, 09:16) *

About Magic Crit Chance formula

How to substitute proficiency_bonus and main_hand_Magic_Crit_Chance? I have maxed ability, and having 496 cloth prof and 15.62% crit chance (12.75 base) from staff now.

Should Cloth armor's Magic_Crit_Chance always = 0? Then whats the meaning of including then in this formula?

magic crit chance from armor comes from ability, iirc. i don't remember of armors with crit chance...

[edit]: format of the formula seems decon's. it's possible he did a copy/paste from the previous one.

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post Jun 23 2018, 12:42
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 17:19) *

yes, it has been tested. and no, it's not a good idea. while a protection piece may help you with survivability and a good balance with crits, the optimum at a certain level is given by max possible damage.
if you don't have problems with survivability (ie: because tanky enough, or because quest is not particularly hard), just boost damage.

Ah.., i see. So it's not good enough to give a max effects. I'm just curious if i can use mixed "colourful" set with different suffix. So i guess my set is good enough.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you very much... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 13:25
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 12:42) *

Ah.., i see. So it's not good enough to give a max effects. I'm just curious if i can use mixed "colourful" set with different suffix.

you can, but if it works it most likely will be due to 1H style, not to rainbow armor set.
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post Jun 23 2018, 13:33
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 13:19) *

facepalm here is quite strong... btw, it's even written on wiki.


You do realize that not everyone gets everything right off the bat even if it's "written in stone"?
Like "instead of playing HV you could be enjoying summer, or building empire of sluts, or whatever" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 14:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 18:25) *

you can, but if it works it most likely will be due to 1H style, not to rainbow armor set.


I guess it's worth to try then.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jun 23 2018, 18:33) *

You do realize that not everyone gets everything right off the bat even if it's "written in stone"?
Like "instead of playing HV you could be enjoying summer, or building empire of sluts, or whatever" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yes, like i did. I really didn't understand about SoL at all until i tried it. I casted, then just attacked with no regen or cure and the SoL kicked in and still no cure casted and then... defeated.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and when i wanted to build a mage set, i searched about everything mage build, and then i realized that it's an end game style and i'm so poor to build one far away from end... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 15:37
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Jun 23 2018, 13:33) *

Like "instead of playing HV you could be enjoying summer, or building empire of sluts, or whatever" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yeah, don't tell me...
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post Jun 24 2018, 03:39
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So I was thinking of replacing my sword with a legendary rapier of slaughter. But where to find one? Something with the same stats at least, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/53060161/01545226bf
I've noticed that some can completely lack a bonus like Attack Speed, or such. (I might turn it down because the prefix, like demonic or ith, doesn't serve the style, over say, Arctic or something. Or the interference might be crazy high.) Then spending credits on an item world service player to put some levels on the sword. Then salvaging what bindings I can from my E sword to use on my L sword. I've been looking over the WTS and they seem to go for 50k-300k credits. And there are some good bargains there, but not the exact piece I want. So I could buy some of the lesser L swords, but not some of 34 million credits ones! Should I get a 500 and then soulbind it? As I'm 300 wouldn't that bring down the stats on the weapon, making it less useful and less then what was expected?
If there's any flaws in my reasoning, I assume that more-experienced player will be able to point them out.
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:07
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QUOTE(Zerozero204 @ Jun 24 2018, 08:39) *

So I was thinking of replacing my sword with a legendary rapier of slaughter. But where to find one? Something with the same stats at least, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/53060161/01545226bf
I've noticed that some can completely lack a bonus like Attack Speed, or such. (I might turn it down because the prefix, like demonic or ith, doesn't serve the style, over say, Arctic or something. Or the interference might be crazy high.) Then spending credits on an item world service player to put some levels on the sword. Then salvaging what bindings I can from my E sword to use on my L sword. I've been looking over the WTS and they seem to go for 50k-300k credits. And there are some good bargains there, but not the exact piece I want. So I could buy some of the lesser L swords, but not some of 34 million credits ones! Should I get a 500 and then soulbind it? As I'm 300 wouldn't that bring down the stats on the weapon, making it less useful and less then what was expected?
If there's any flaws in my reasoning, I assume that more-experienced player will be able to point them out.


What style do you use? Because 1h+shield don't need any attack speed or 0 interference but need (a little) burden. And where is that 34m rapier? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You are level 300, maybe you can check some replacements here , here , here
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post Jun 24 2018, 04:10
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QUOTE(Zerozero204 @ Jun 23 2018, 20:39) *

So I was thinking of replacing my sword with a legendary rapier of slaughter. But where to find one? Something with the same stats at least, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/53060161/01545226bf
I've noticed that some can completely lack a bonus like Attack Speed, or such. (I might turn it down because the prefix, like demonic or ith, doesn't serve the style, over say, Arctic or something. Or the interference might be crazy high.) Then spending credits on an item world service player to put some levels on the sword. Then salvaging what bindings I can from my E sword to use on my L sword. I've been looking over the WTS and they seem to go for 50k-300k credits. And there are some good bargains there, but not the exact piece I want. So I could buy some of the lesser L swords, but not some of 34 million credits ones! Should I get a 500 and then soulbind it? As I'm 300 wouldn't that bring down the stats on the weapon, making it less useful and less then what was expected?
If there's any flaws in my reasoning, I assume that more-experienced player will be able to point them out.


1. Yes, at your level you need to change your weapon for a magnificent/legendary rapier of slaughter (assuming you are using 1H heavy).

2. You don't want attack speed bonus with 1H heavy.

3. Demonic isn't a bad prefix, I prefer demonic/hallowed for SG arenas. <- personal opinion.

4. Less interference is more important for mages, with melee style you want low burden, with 1h heavy just below 70 is fine.

5. A rapier of slaughter will cost you 100-300k for mag and 1M-3M for a leg aprox.

6. If you can't find one around your level its fine to buy one that you can soulfuse (if you have plenty of soulfrags and said equip is decent/good).

But as I always say "I'm not an expert", take what I say with a grain of salt.

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