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post Jun 23 2018, 00:50
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What do you mean? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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The rate of gains is based on the amount of experience (including any bonuses to EXP gain) gained during battles where a proficiency is used in some way.
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post Jun 23 2018, 00:53
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Yes, assimilator training does increase the prof gain.
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post Jun 23 2018, 01:14
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Outside of the Tokenizer hath perk, do either of the drop rate training options in the game increase the likelyhood of a token drop? Been sitting at 4 blood tokens forever now and I need one more.


Scavenger. More drops overall means higher chance of one of them being a Token.

If you want tokens, try to complete arenas, the higher ones have good chances of dropping a token as clear bonus.

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post Jun 23 2018, 01:35
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QUOTE(Nicosai @ Jun 23 2018, 01:14) *

Scavenger. More drops overall means higher chance of one of them being a Token.

You get slightly more drops. Slightly more drops overall. So if you really do plan to train Scavenger just for Chaos token, you do nothing but waste credits. I dont have the actual numbers, but my guess would be that even from 0 to 50 you would maybe get another token every two weeks. Maybe per week if you have at least Tokenizer I.

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If you want tokens, try to complete arenas, the higher ones have good chances of dropping a token as clear bonus.

Iirc some people did IW runs for getting tokens. Is faster and easier to complete as GF when you allready have done your arenas.
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post Jun 23 2018, 02:12
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IA5 buffs: all
perks: VV, RR, Eminent Elementalist, DDV

one of my problems is that i frequently have a few monsters resist my imperil causing me to take more hits before i start killing. i'm thinking of using weaken but i need to get more ability points before i can do that.

is there something else i need to be doing besides imperil and attack? i want to at least be able to complete IWBTHfest with 1hmage.


I'm also working on a 1H mage build, and I'm not 100% certain on what to do, but I can see a few things that would help with your build. Take the following with a grain of salt.

You should get Evil Enchantress, that should help a bit with Imperil. Also, you might want to train a few levels of Assimilator to speed up the prof grind a bit. Add OFC to your spell rotation if you haven't done so yet. Physical attack affects the damage done by OFC and Counter-Attacks, so you should forge ADB on the waki a little bit, and maybe try to get But5. Getting to IW10 is probably a good idea too. Also, make sure to slot the 1H damage ability. Always use featherweight shards, and maybe Aether Shards too.
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post Jun 23 2018, 02:32
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Whats gonna happen if I shrined or sell my ponies. Will OFC skill disabled?
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post Jun 23 2018, 02:33
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Whats gonna happen if I shrined or sell my ponies. Will OFC skill disabled?

Afaik yes it will.

A better question would be, why would someone do that?

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post Jun 23 2018, 03:26
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 03:33) *

A better question would be, why would someone do that?

couse OFC sucks for mages?
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post Jun 23 2018, 03:38
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 07:33) *

A better question would be, why would someone do that?



QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Jun 23 2018, 08:26) *

couse OFC sucks for mages?


Because he/she need more money or just for a shrine tests... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

My question :
Did anyone ever try 1h-heavy in mix suffix? Like [rapier of slaughter] + [force shield] + 1 power of slaughter + 1 power of balance + 1 power of protection + 1 power of warding + 1 shielding plate (maybe?)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it good combination?
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post Jun 23 2018, 03:46
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 08:38) *

My question :
Did anyone ever try 1h-heavy in mix suffix? Like [rapier of slaughter] + [force shield] + 1 power of slaughter + 1 power of balance + 1 power of protection + 1 power of warding + 1 shielding plate (maybe?)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it good combination?


It works, but if you already have all slaughter and not dying I don't see why using mixed set mmm...
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post Jun 23 2018, 03:57
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Jun 23 2018, 03:26) *

couse OFC sucks for mages?

Everything sucks for mages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 06:15
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Since mage don't use basic attack much and prefix give elemental strike on attack.

Should I care prefix of staff?
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post Jun 23 2018, 06:33
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QUOTE(Twin Divas @ Jun 23 2018, 06:15) *

Should I care prefix of staff?

Ever notice the prefix also gives Spell Damage Bonus? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 07:23
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 11:33) *

Ever notice the prefix also gives Spell Damage Bonus? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Just noticed that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 08:23
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Jun 23 2018, 02:12) *

I'm also working on a 1H mage build, and I'm not 100% certain on what to do, but I can see a few things that would help with your build. Take the following with a grain of salt.

You should get Evil Enchantress, that should help a bit with Imperil. Also, you might want to train a few levels of Assimilator to speed up the prof grind a bit. Add OFC to your spell rotation if you haven't done so yet. Physical attack affects the damage done by OFC and Counter-Attacks, so you should forge ADB on the waki a little bit, and maybe try to get But5. Getting to IW10 is probably a good idea too. Also, make sure to slot the 1H damage ability. Always use featherweight shards, and maybe Aether Shards too.


This is good advice.

Next to this, forge your evade & agility of your cloth armors. It's expensive, I know. But each time you do a couple of forge levels, you gain a couple of rounds in PFFEST. And remember, PFFEST is supposed to be extremely hard, else what would be the fun?

And in 2nd half of fest, imperil 2 times max then kill some, imperil the survivors, then kill some more.
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post Jun 23 2018, 09:16
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About Magic Crit Chance formula

How to substitute proficiency_bonus and main_hand_Magic_Crit_Chance? I have maxed ability, and having 496 cloth prof and 15.62% crit chance (12.75 base) from staff now.

Should Cloth armor's Magic_Crit_Chance always = 0? Then whats the meaning of including then in this formula?

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post Jun 23 2018, 12:19
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QUOTE(Ikki Pop @ Jun 23 2018, 03:26) *

couse OFC sucks for mages?

why not reselling it then? even if prices are at the hystoric minimum now, it's still 500-ish k

QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 03:38) *

Did anyone ever try 1h-heavy in mix suffix? Like [rapier of slaughter] + [force shield] + 1 power of slaughter + 1 power of balance + 1 power of protection + 1 power of warding + 1 shielding plate (maybe?)... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) is it good combination?

yes, it has been tested. and no, it's not a good idea. while a protection piece may help you with survivability and a good balance with crits, the optimum at a certain level is given by max possible damage.
if you don't have problems with survivability (ie: because tanky enough, or because quest is not particularly hard), just boost damage.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jun 23 2018, 03:57) *

Everything sucks for mages. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

sir scorpio would have a fitting joke on this topic...

QUOTE(Twin Divas @ Jun 23 2018, 07:23) *

Just noticed that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

facepalm here is quite strong... btw, it's even written on wiki.

QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Jun 23 2018, 09:16) *

About Magic Crit Chance formula

How to substitute proficiency_bonus and main_hand_Magic_Crit_Chance? I have maxed ability, and having 496 cloth prof and 15.62% crit chance (12.75 base) from staff now.

Should Cloth armor's Magic_Crit_Chance always = 0? Then whats the meaning of including then in this formula?

magic crit chance from armor comes from ability, iirc. i don't remember of armors with crit chance...

[edit]: format of the formula seems decon's. it's possible he did a copy/paste from the previous one.

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post Jun 23 2018, 12:42
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 17:19) *

yes, it has been tested. and no, it's not a good idea. while a protection piece may help you with survivability and a good balance with crits, the optimum at a certain level is given by max possible damage.
if you don't have problems with survivability (ie: because tanky enough, or because quest is not particularly hard), just boost damage.

Ah.., i see. So it's not good enough to give a max effects. I'm just curious if i can use mixed "colourful" set with different suffix. So i guess my set is good enough.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you very much... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 23 2018, 13:25
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 23 2018, 12:42) *

Ah.., i see. So it's not good enough to give a max effects. I'm just curious if i can use mixed "colourful" set with different suffix.

you can, but if it works it most likely will be due to 1H style, not to rainbow armor set.
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post Jun 23 2018, 13:33
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 23 2018, 13:19) *

facepalm here is quite strong... btw, it's even written on wiki.


You do realize that not everyone gets everything right off the bat even if it's "written in stone"?
Like "instead of playing HV you could be enjoying summer, or building empire of sluts, or whatever" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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