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post Jun 20 2018, 22:50
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aye. also, that fluctuation seems to be roughly 25 turns... is it even relevant, on such a long quest?
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post Jun 20 2018, 23:00
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 21 2018, 04:49) *

Thats what i did. I even was using force shield from my old melee style and it still was fine.
UPD. I dont see much sense to upgrade 1h mage significantly, because it doesnt make very big clearspeed difference. I see that more like very easy and safe way to get fast clear and thats mostly pffest and iw where income damage is significant.


The Interference on Force Shield can decrease the Magic Crtict Chance and increase Mana Cost, yes, it's not a big Problem. 1H Mage doesn't need much "extra" Cost to upgrade, we can use the same Buckler with 1H-Melee, and use the same Armors with Staff, the only Forge of Weapon is really cheap.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 21 2018, 04:50) *

aye. also, that fluctuation seems to be roughly 25 turns... is it even relevant, on such a long quest?


Yes, it's not significant, that's why we can still use the same Armor with Staff.
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post Jun 21 2018, 03:08
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Thanks for help guys, seems it does indeed take a day for the 'forum post exp bonus' to happen.
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post Jun 21 2018, 08:47
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How to calculate my rapier's initial adb before i fused/iw/forged it? What i mean is my rapier's been forged/iw/fused and i forgot the initial adb, so i want to know hiw to calculate it..

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post Jun 21 2018, 09:37
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 08:47) *

How to calculate my rapier's initial adb before i fused/iw/forged it? What i mean is my rapier's been forged/iw/fused and i forgot the initial adb, so i want to know hiw to calculate it..

Double click on the perceptile ranges values. The original values are those of the blue screen
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:38
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Jun 21 2018, 14:37) *

Double click on the perceptile ranges values. The original values are those of the blue screen
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And the adb? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:44
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:38) *

And the adb? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Adb = Attack Damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:48
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Jun 21 2018, 14:44) *

Adb = Attack Damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....
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post Jun 21 2018, 10:55
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:48) *

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....

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I do not know how to get the exact formula, but here are some formulas, maybe they give you your answer.

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post Jun 21 2018, 11:11
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Jun 21 2018, 15:55) *

Wiki
I do not know how to get the exact formula, but here are some formulas, maybe they give you your answer.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) i don't understand at all.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i guess i'm getting dumber when some numbers and formulas involved in....

Well, i lost in auction anyway, so i guess there's no point to compare the initial adb of 2 weapons now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you for helping btw... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 11:35
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:48) *

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....

What you want to know is how much better one rapier is compared.to another. That is what the live percentage ranges script does. It scales to unforged condition and both to same level. That is what you want.
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post Jun 21 2018, 12:01
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 21 2018, 16:35) *

What you want to know is how much better one rapier is compared.to another. That is what the live percentage ranges script does. It scales to unforged condition and both to same level. That is what you want.

At first, that's what i want.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
And then i was curious about the "pure adb" of my rapier. Because my rapier is fused+iw+forged, so i forgot it (tbh i never know about it.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

My rapier's adb now = X + butcher lv.5 + physical damage lv.17 + fused to lv.427 = 1841 void damage. X is the adb before i did anything to it and that's what i want to know. Actually i bought is from sssss2 so the weapon level is 500 before i fused it...

And before i realize it, it makes me curious.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 12:37
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:48) *

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....

latanium's algorithm uses my forge algorithm, which incidentally also removes IW effects. what you're looking at is the base ADB of the vanilla rapier.
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post Jun 21 2018, 12:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jun 21 2018, 17:37) *

latanium's algorithm uses my forge algorithm, which incidentally also removes IW effects. what you're looking at is the base ADB of the vanilla rapier.

Yes.., that's what i'm curious about.. vanilla adb.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 13:02
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What is the most efficient way to level up forge level?

Is it by mass forge leather equipment mmm...~?
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post Jun 21 2018, 13:09
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QUOTE(VawX @ Jun 21 2018, 18:02) *

What is the most efficient way to level up forge level?

Is it by mass forge leather equipment mmm...~?

Build several styles and forge them to maximum...
Me : level 30 now.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 14:26
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jun 20 2018, 23:54) *

I think we don't need to change the Armors: If we use 4+1 for Elemental Staff, just use the same 4+1 for Elemental 1H-Mage.


no. 3+2 for 1H mage.

4+1 mobs still love to resist a lot,
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post Jun 21 2018, 14:49
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QUOTE(VawX @ Jun 21 2018, 19:02) *

What is the most efficient way to level up forge level?

Is it by mass forge leather equipment mmm...~?

1. Spend bindings of nimble and balance on garbages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) , forge parry and hit chance to maximum then salvage.
2. Repeat the first step. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 16:19
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What is the major difference between each mage build (Elemental, Dark and Holy) aside from different prof.

Also, why there are no Elemental/No Imperil and Holy/Imperil in this wiki
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post Jun 21 2018, 17:14
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QUOTE(Twin Divas @ Jun 21 2018, 16:19) *

What is the major difference between each mage build (Elemental, Dark and Holy) aside from different prof.


Elemental: much cheaper to get going. Works excellent with imperil style. Highly recommended.
Dark: if you want to go the hard way, in the end it is just as fast as elemental for imperil style, or almost as fast when playing non-imperil. And a bit more expensive. And if you really spend a lot of credits, non-imperil style can even be faster than imperil style. But at what costs?!
Holy: the strongest style, because holy spells give "Breached Defence" - which makes the next spell do even more damage. Downside? All the really rich players play holy. They start bidding on a good radiant phase with a bid of 40m. Just to get things going. And a good staff? Only one type works well, LHOH, and they are... expensive.



QUOTE(Twin Divas @ Jun 21 2018, 16:19) *

Also, why there are no Elemental/No Imperil and Holy/Imperil in this wiki


No holy imperil: you need 0.8 prof factor. Because Holy is just so strong, because of Breached Defence, it's kind of a waste of credits to go for holy imperil. But you can use imperil if you are starting. The effect is just relatively small. So it is not recommended.

Elemental no imperil: you need 1.0 prof factor. because damage is a bit lower for elemental, this used to be not feasible, because you could only use 3 phases. Just not enough fire power to kill everything in time. Now, you can achieve 1.0 with only 1 cotton, also for elemental. And some elemental mages that are extremely strong show that it can work. Just not recommended for normal or even very strong mage players.
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