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post Jun 20 2018, 17:49
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jun 20 2018, 14:27) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=247024cd6c
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Thanks!

Here is the management summary:
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What you see here is prof factor on the x-axis, and right y-axis shows the Magic Score (metric for badassness in doing damage). The left y-axis is the turns that it took met to do a 100 round IW. Lower is better.

Conclusions & Recommendations:
1. 1h mage is a very, very good style. Normally, 100 IW PFUDOR requires scrolls and lots of curing, this way it takes a bit longer but almost no cures! 7 minutes vs. 4 minutes is the diffence in time

2. 5 phases (of which 3 radiants - I don't have any more) is worst, but soon after that it doesn't really matter. Within normal fluctuation.

I recommend to get some extra prof from cotton, but not necessarily exactly the required prof factor. For dark 0.8 would be perfect for imperil mage, but 0.6 or 0.7 seem to work just as well. For elemental, I think it is almost the same if you go 1+4 or 2+3.

full details are available if you are really interested.

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post Jun 20 2018, 18:54
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 20 2018, 23:49) *

Thanks!

Here is the management summary:
Attached Image

What you see here is prof factor on the x-axis, and right y-axis shows the Magic Score (metric for badassness in doing damage). The left y-axis is the turns that it took met to do a 100 round IW. Lower is better.

Conclusions & Recommendations:
1. 1h mage is a very, very good style. Normally, 100 IW PFUDOR requires scrolls and lots of curing, this way it takes a bit longer but almost no cures! 7 minutes vs. 4 minutes is the diffence in time

2. 5 phases (of which 3 radiants - I don't have any more) is worst, but soon after that it doesn't really matter. Within normal fluctuation.

I recommend to get some extra prof from cotton, but not necessarily exactly the required prof factor. For dark 0.8 would be perfect for imperil mage, but 0.6 or 0.7 seem to work just as well. For elemental, I think it is almost the same if you go 1+4 or 2+3.

full details are available if you are really interested.


I think we don't need to change the Armors: If we use 4+1 for Elemental Staff, just use the same 4+1 for Elemental 1H-Mage.
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post Jun 20 2018, 19:28
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 20 2018, 23:49) *

Thanks!

Here is the management summary:
Attached Image

What you see here is prof factor on the x-axis, and right y-axis shows the Magic Score (metric for badassness in doing damage). The left y-axis is the turns that it took met to do a 100 round IW. Lower is better.

Conclusions & Recommendations:
1. 1h mage is a very, very good style. Normally, 100 IW PFUDOR requires scrolls and lots of curing, this way it takes a bit longer but almost no cures! 7 minutes vs. 4 minutes is the diffence in time

2. 5 phases (of which 3 radiants - I don't have any more) is worst, but soon after that it doesn't really matter. Within normal fluctuation.

I recommend to get some extra prof from cotton, but not necessarily exactly the required prof factor. For dark 0.8 would be perfect for imperil mage, but 0.6 or 0.7 seem to work just as well. For elemental, I think it is almost the same if you go 1+4 or 2+3.

full details are available if you are really interested.


Curious about why 0.8 has more turns between 0.6 and 0.9, it looks weird, maybe some bad luck?
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post Jun 20 2018, 19:42
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jun 20 2018, 19:28) *

Curious about why 0.8 has more turns between 0.6 and 0.9, it looks weird, maybe some bad luck?


fluctuation - maybe there was 1 more random boss-class, or the others had one more riddle...
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post Jun 20 2018, 22:49
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jun 20 2018, 19:54) *

I think we don't need to change the Armors: If we use 4+1 for Elemental Staff, just use the same 4+1 for Elemental 1H-Mage.


Thats what i did. I even was using force shield from my old melee style and it still was fine.
UPD. I dont see much sense to upgrade 1h mage significantly, because it doesnt make very big clearspeed difference. I see that more like very easy and safe way to get fast clear and thats mostly pffest and iw where income damage is significant.

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post Jun 20 2018, 22:50
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aye. also, that fluctuation seems to be roughly 25 turns... is it even relevant, on such a long quest?
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post Jun 20 2018, 23:00
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Jun 21 2018, 04:49) *

Thats what i did. I even was using force shield from my old melee style and it still was fine.
UPD. I dont see much sense to upgrade 1h mage significantly, because it doesnt make very big clearspeed difference. I see that more like very easy and safe way to get fast clear and thats mostly pffest and iw where income damage is significant.


The Interference on Force Shield can decrease the Magic Crtict Chance and increase Mana Cost, yes, it's not a big Problem. 1H Mage doesn't need much "extra" Cost to upgrade, we can use the same Buckler with 1H-Melee, and use the same Armors with Staff, the only Forge of Weapon is really cheap.

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aye. also, that fluctuation seems to be roughly 25 turns... is it even relevant, on such a long quest?


Yes, it's not significant, that's why we can still use the same Armor with Staff.
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post Jun 21 2018, 03:08
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Thanks for help guys, seems it does indeed take a day for the 'forum post exp bonus' to happen.
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post Jun 21 2018, 08:47
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How to calculate my rapier's initial adb before i fused/iw/forged it? What i mean is my rapier's been forged/iw/fused and i forgot the initial adb, so i want to know hiw to calculate it..

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post Jun 21 2018, 09:37
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 08:47) *

How to calculate my rapier's initial adb before i fused/iw/forged it? What i mean is my rapier's been forged/iw/fused and i forgot the initial adb, so i want to know hiw to calculate it..

Double click on the perceptile ranges values. The original values are those of the blue screen
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:38
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Jun 21 2018, 14:37) *

Double click on the perceptile ranges values. The original values are those of the blue screen
(IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/QpbP78o.png)

And the adb? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:44
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:38) *

And the adb? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Adb = Attack Damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 09:48
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Jun 21 2018, 14:44) *

Adb = Attack Damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....
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post Jun 21 2018, 10:55
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:48) *

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....

Wiki
I do not know how to get the exact formula, but here are some formulas, maybe they give you your answer.

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post Jun 21 2018, 11:11
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Jun 21 2018, 15:55) *

Wiki
I do not know how to get the exact formula, but here are some formulas, maybe they give you your answer.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) i don't understand at all.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i guess i'm getting dumber when some numbers and formulas involved in....

Well, i lost in auction anyway, so i guess there's no point to compare the initial adb of 2 weapons now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thank you for helping btw... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 11:35
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:48) *

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....

What you want to know is how much better one rapier is compared.to another. That is what the live percentage ranges script does. It scales to unforged condition and both to same level. That is what you want.
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post Jun 21 2018, 12:01
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jun 21 2018, 16:35) *

What you want to know is how much better one rapier is compared.to another. That is what the live percentage ranges script does. It scales to unforged condition and both to same level. That is what you want.

At first, that's what i want.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
And then i was curious about the "pure adb" of my rapier. Because my rapier is fused+iw+forged, so i forgot it (tbh i never know about it.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

My rapier's adb now = X + butcher lv.5 + physical damage lv.17 + fused to lv.427 = 1841 void damage. X is the adb before i did anything to it and that's what i want to know. Actually i bought is from sssss2 so the weapon level is 500 before i fused it...

And before i realize it, it makes me curious.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 12:37
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 21 2018, 09:48) *

Err.., what i mean is my rapier is fused+forged+iw = 1841 void damage, what i want to know is the adb before i did the fused+forged+iw....

latanium's algorithm uses my forge algorithm, which incidentally also removes IW effects. what you're looking at is the base ADB of the vanilla rapier.
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post Jun 21 2018, 12:40
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latanium's algorithm uses my forge algorithm, which incidentally also removes IW effects. what you're looking at is the base ADB of the vanilla rapier.

Yes.., that's what i'm curious about.. vanilla adb.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jun 21 2018, 13:02
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What is the most efficient way to level up forge level?

Is it by mass forge leather equipment mmm...~?
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