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post Jun 17 2018, 03:39
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QUOTE(DIEGOarnanta @ Jun 17 2018, 08:30) *

any level 400+ 2H player?
wanted to know how do u play with it.

mace + agile light set and using Rending Blow for penetrated armor?
estoc + agile light set and using fus ro dah for stun?
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2h weapon + heavy armor combining power and shielding?
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does agile prefix even matter? im assuming agile prefix works similar to charged for mages to increase survivability.


Me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Just started it couple weeks ago, the set? Maybe you can check my signature in explosion 2h-shade. Survivability? Not that good, because my profs is way too low. Agile? Not always agile, no agile is fine as long as you got shadowdancer or fleet in a set...

(Correct me if i'm wrong)
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post Jun 17 2018, 03:45
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 17 2018, 08:39) *

Me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Just started it couple weeks ago, the set? Maybe you can check my signature in explosion 2h-shade. Survivability? Not that good, because my profs is way too low. Agile? Not always agile, no agile is fine as long as you got shadowdancer or fleet in a set...

(Correct me if i'm wrong)


okay you using estoc is understandable but not using dovahkin title with it?
so youre using your overcharge for spirit stance only and just for dmg increase ? or do u use other skills?
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post Jun 17 2018, 03:51
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QUOTE(DIEGOarnanta @ Jun 17 2018, 08:45) *

okay you using estoc is understandable but not using dovahkin title with it?
so youre using your overcharge for spirit stance only and just for dmg increase ? or do u use other skills?

No dovahkiin? Because i'm still stuck with 1h.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i can't use crunk juice on my phone, so i stuck with godslayer. My 2h play is full dependent on skill. Every round i use shatter strike and great cleavage cleave...

So no spirit stance at all...
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post Jun 17 2018, 03:57
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 17 2018, 08:51) *

No dovahkiin? Because i'm still stuck with 1h.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i can't use crunk juice on my phone, so i stuck with godslayer. My 2h play is full dependent on skill. Every round i use shatter strike and great cleavage cleave...

So no spirit stance at all...


can u even reliably chain rending to shatter strike for the stun?
cause i tried shatter strike and it cant stun by itself unless chained.

unlike fus ro dah.
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post Jun 17 2018, 04:05
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Earth-walker is useless, even if its charged. Supportive prof only affects the amount of health restored by the Cure spell. Generally only Elementalist, Demon-Fiend, and Heaven-Sent are worth keeping.
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post Jun 17 2018, 04:14
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QUOTE(DIEGOarnanta @ Jun 17 2018, 08:57) *

can u even reliably chain rending to shatter strike for the stun?
cause i tried shatter strike and it cant stun by itself unless chained.

unlike fus ro dah.

Err... but i always use shatter strike and great cleavage cleave only, i barely use rending. They (almost) always landed a hit/stun...

And i'm still grinding my profs, so i play using 2h in first 3-5 of arena. I do the page 2 arenas in 1h...
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post Jun 17 2018, 04:41
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what has a more significant impact on mage dmg, the EDB or the MDB?

there is a radiant robe piece that im eyeing with 11% EDB and 60% MDB. do i have the luxury of being picky seeing how rare radiant pieces seem to be(but the edb is so low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )? keep in mind this is for my 1h mage build.

also, should i consider using 2 elemental pieces with 1h mage? right now im only using elemental leggings and plan to fill out the rest with radiant.

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post Jun 17 2018, 05:00
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QUOTE(DIEGOarnanta @ Jun 17 2018, 09:57) *

can u even reliably chain rending to shatter strike for the stun?
cause i tried shatter strike and it cant stun by itself unless chained.

unlike fus ro dah.

shatter strike can stun those been penetrated armor by estoc, if not penetrated armor then can't stun.
besides, i'm using mace+power but i'm not over 400 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jun 17 2018, 05:10
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jun 17 2018, 10:00) *

shatter strike can stun those been penetrated armor by estoc, if not penetrated armor then can't stun.
besides, i'm using mace+power but i'm not over 400 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Err.. is it using is good as using estoc? Maybe i want to try to use mace too....
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post Jun 17 2018, 05:14
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jun 17 2018, 10:00) *

shatter strike can stun those been penetrated armor by estoc, if not penetrated armor then can't stun.
besides, i'm using mace+power but i'm not over 400 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


now this makes sense.
penetrated armor is what triggering the stun from shatter even without rending.
this is good to know actually.
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post Jun 17 2018, 05:43
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 17 2018, 11:10) *

Err.. is it using is good as using estoc? Maybe i want to try to use mace too....

I never use estoc+shade so i can't compare (still gathering gears)
I can do pf dwd and iwbh iw, but sometimes dangerous if i don't stun enough monsters (didn't trigger stun or got parried), maybe forge will help.
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post Jun 17 2018, 05:50
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QUOTE(pooaa @ Jun 17 2018, 10:43) *

I never use estoc+shade so i can't compare (still gathering gears)
I can do pf dwd and iwbh iw, but sometimes dangerous if i don't stun enough monsters (didn't trigger stun or got parried), maybe forge will help.

Wow.., you can do pf dwd with mace? I can barely dealt big damage to SGs using estoc.., well, maybe my profs are way too low... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 17 2018, 06:51
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Just how worth it is the gold star?
I kinda get all the equipment I need but mostly still not upgraded (only max IW), Training and Hath Perk is already good enough.
And I can already clear all PF Arena pretty easily, even PFest I can quite easily clear it (unless I got super unlucky mmm...
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post Jun 17 2018, 07:23
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QUOTE(VawX @ Jun 16 2018, 23:51) *

Just how worth it is the gold star?
I kinda get all the equipment I need but mostly still not upgraded (only max IW), Training and Hath Perk is already good enough.
And I can already clear all PF Arena pretty easily, even PFest I can quite easily clear it (unless I got super unlucky mmm...

I'd say it's the most useful "perk" to buy, 2gb archive download daily, x2 monsters in the lab, +100% exp, all previous confectioneries+gold star=8(?)hath daily, even if you forget to post in the end of the year thread you can earn the cookie anyway and the free hath gallery perks
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post Jun 17 2018, 08:53
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Jun 17 2018, 04:41) *

what has a more significant impact on mage dmg, the EDB or the MDB?

there is a radiant robe piece that im eyeing with 11% EDB and 60% MDB. do i have the luxury of being picky seeing how rare radiant pieces seem to be(but the edb is so low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )? keep in mind this is for my 1h mage build.

also, should i consider using 2 elemental pieces with 1h mage? right now im only using elemental leggings and plan to fill out the rest with radiant.


Both EDB and MDB are important, equally. But for 1h mage, it's not essential to have perferct stats, as long as you have high block. Go for affordable gear, not perfect gear.

Keep in mind that damage-wise, even a 0% Radiant phase gives better damage than a peerless plain suffix phase. So go for the radiant, I'd say.


QUOTE(VawX @ Jun 17 2018, 06:51) *

Just how worth it is the gold star?


Very, very useful. For the EXP, for the free Hath and credits at dawn, for the double monster slots. Yeah, it's the best game-play improvement that you can get.
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post Jun 17 2018, 09:26
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jun 17 2018, 12:23) *

I'd say it's the most useful "perk" to buy, 2gb archive download daily, x2 monsters in the lab, +100% exp, all previous confectioneries+gold star=8(?)hath daily, even if you forget to post in the end of the year thread you can earn the cookie anyway and the free hath gallery perks

That's the most useful to me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
What does that mean?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Jun 17 2018, 09:29
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QUOTE(jackalo @ Jun 17 2018, 10:41) *

what has a more significant impact on mage dmg, the EDB or the MDB?

also, should i consider using 2 elemental pieces with 1h mage? right now im only using elemental leggings and plan to fill out the rest with radiant.

EDB surely is a bit more important than MDB since the equation
magic_dmg = (base_bonus) * (1 + elem_bonus) * (1 + hath_bonus)
Better MDB roll makes little difference compared to your total basic magic damage. Maybe you can assume +50 from 0%roll to 100% if you fully upgrade 4 radiants, which is a very small increase in your total magic damage. Radiants surely increase a lot of damage but the MDB roll aren't that important. But EDB is directly calculated into 1+edb, where you can see in spell damage bonus. So the roll of EDB can make more difference than a roll of MDB in terms of final damage dealt. That's just my point of view since I might misunderstand the equation, but that's also what most people are seeking, high edbs.
Also because 1h mage absolutely needs to imperil since 1h has low damage, I guess a few chargeds would do better than full radiants. Radiants are more for non-imperil styles which you can kill monsters in just several shots without imperil.

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post Jun 17 2018, 09:33
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 17 2018, 02:26) *

That's the most useful to me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
What does that mean?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

the yuletide thread at the end of the year, write "x sentence" to get a cookie and a chance to win a tenbora box, you might forget to swing back by that time, but you earn the cookie anyway if you have a gold star

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post Jun 17 2018, 10:16
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Jun 17 2018, 14:33) *

the yuletide thread at the end of the year, write "x sentence" to get a cookie and a chance to win a tenbora box, you might forget to swing back by that time, but you earn the cookie anyway if you have a gold star

Well, i knew the thread (just an hour ago).. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
But that's how it works when you're a GS member?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) that's new...

Thank you for the explanations.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 17 2018, 11:01
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QUOTE(DIEGOarnanta @ Jun 17 2018, 03:30) *

any level 400+ 2H player?
wanted to know how do u play with it.

FRD 2H style has been reproted to work. iirc it was the style sickentide used to clear PFfest. the key is to have speed > 30%, going with FRD and then hit.
speed is usually given by Swift Strike potency and Agile armors. Evade and Overpower aren't a must, since it's all managed by FRD.
not sure it's worth the efforts, but as i said - it works.

QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 17 2018, 03:51) *

No dovahkiin? Because i'm still stuck with 1h.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i can't use crunk juice on my phone, so i stuck with godslayer

i'm not sure i see the relation... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

QUOTE(igs88 @ Jun 17 2018, 09:26) *

What does that mean?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

gold stars are awarded the confectionaries automatically and retroactively.

QUOTE(-vincento- @ Jun 17 2018, 09:29) *

EDB surely is a bit more important than MDB since the equation
magic_dmg = (base_bonus) * (1 + elem_bonus) * (1 + hath_bonus)
Better MDB roll makes little difference compared to your total basic magic damage.

actually that's opinable. if you look at the growth of the function, probably MDB is way more important because it allows for quicker boosts. but i have never been a genius in studying 2-variables functions, so you may want to ask for other opinions.
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