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post May 30 2018, 12:05
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 30 2018, 16:29) *

Yes, that's right. There are 2 or 3 SDE with high block tagged in 5-7mill, but that's gonna take months for me to buy and forge it...
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It's not worth it you know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Not every1 needs the very best. You could ppl buy a SDE of 80%block within 2~3m, and obviously the extra 15%block chance is not worth 3~5m.
With 7m, you can buy yourself several savage shade shadowdancers of low~moderate adb% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .
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post May 30 2018, 12:15
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ May 30 2018, 12:05) *

obviously the extra 15%block chance is not worth 3~5m.

Correction, it is not worth it for you. Others would gladly spend 3~5M to get another extra 15% block chance.
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post May 30 2018, 12:19
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QUOTE(-vincento- @ May 30 2018, 17:05) *

It's not worth it you know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) . Not every1 needs the very best. You could ppl buy a SDE of 80%block within 2~3m, and obviously the extra 15%block chance is not worth 3~5m.
With 7m, you can buy yourself several savage shade shadowdancers of low~moderate adb% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .

Yes, you're right. My 2h set is 3mill worth, just wait to be fused and grinding the profs. So, the additional percentile and tags have to be calculated thoroughly... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 30 2018, 17:15) *

Correction, it is not worth it for you. Others would gladly spend 3~5M to get another extra 15% block chance.


For me, it's not worth, because....
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I don't have that much credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


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post May 30 2018, 12:43
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 30 2018, 12:19) *

For me, it's not worth, because....
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I don't have that much credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

But that does makes no sense. When something is worth a price for you, it has nothing to do with you been able to pay that price or not. If you cant pay the price, it can still be worth that price for you, it is just too expensive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post May 30 2018, 16:43
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 30 2018, 01:29) *

Yes, that's right. There are 2 or 3 SDE with high block tagged in 5-7mill, but that's gonna take months for me to buy and forge it...
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I want to buy one of these shields.

I'm interested in finding out if one of these are protection shields but if they are anything else then I'm not.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 30 2018, 02:44) *

how high? and where?


Let's find out how long it is going to take for igs88 to explain where could we find these two shields.

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post May 30 2018, 16:48
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 30 2018, 16:44) *

how high? and where?


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I missed this post...
How high? 90% and up, where? In wts...

QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ May 30 2018, 21:43) *

Let's find out how long it is going to take for igs88 to explain where could we find these two shields.


Err...
Should i name the shop??
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post May 30 2018, 16:50
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 30 2018, 07:48) *

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I missed this post...
How high? 90% and up, where? In wts...
Err...
Should i name the shop??


Yes.
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post May 30 2018, 16:53
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ May 30 2018, 21:50) *

Yes.

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What?? For real??

Shop owner : sssss2 , morineko , fihero

I hope i'm not gonna go to the moon and someone's not gonna mad at me because of this X_X (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post May 30 2018, 16:53
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QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ May 30 2018, 16:43) *

I'm interested in finding out if one of these are protection shields but if they are anything else then I'm not.


Imo protection shields are a bit overvalued. Imo the right element is more important.

QUOTE(igs88 @ May 30 2018, 16:48) *

Should i name the shop??

Or you just give hand signals into a random direction, burb and disapear into a smoke cloud. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post May 30 2018, 16:57
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 30 2018, 21:53) *

Or you just give hand signals into a random direction, burb and disapear into a smoke cloud. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

No...
I don't wanna be sent to the moon dissapear...
Mann... i named them...
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Signals : the "peerless" owner and "shadowcat" owner
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post May 30 2018, 17:02
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 30 2018, 07:53) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
What?? For real??

Shop owner : sssss2 , morineko , fihero

I hope i'm not gonna go to the moon and someone's not gonna mad at me because of this X_X (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


You'll be fine.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 30 2018, 07:53) *

Imo protection shields are a bit overvalued. Imo the right element is more important.


That's true.
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post May 30 2018, 18:22
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 30 2018, 16:53) *


Shop owner : sssss2 , morineko , fihero

I hope i'm not gonna go to the moon and someone's not gonna mad at me because of this X_X (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


This is completely allowed. You are even allowed that to write that you don't trust a specific shop because you had a bad experience.

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post May 30 2018, 22:02
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ May 30 2018, 23:53) *

Imo protection shields are a bit overvalued. Imo the right element is more important.
Or you just give hand signals into a random direction, burb and disapear into a smoke cloud. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


QUOTE(PersonaFan08 @ May 31 2018, 00:02) *

That's true.



Prefix
- Reinforced is the best prefix, but Force Shield doesn't have it.
- Elemental mitigations have (very) little effect on actual battles. You don't need to consider them unless you have an obsession with the balance of mitigations.

Suffix
- Dampening is the best suffix: it is slightly better than Protection.
- Protection is good and looks cool: I'll choose it than Dampening.
- Deflection is also good: but inferior to Dampening (and Protection).
- Stoneskin and Warding are... better than nothing.
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post May 30 2018, 23:06
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 30 2018, 23:22) *

This is completely allowed. You are even allowed that to write that you don't trust a specific shop because you had a bad experience.


Thank you for the explanation...

QUOTE(sssss2 @ May 31 2018, 03:02) *

Prefix
- Reinforced is the best prefix, but Force Shield doesn't have it.
- Elemental mitigations have (very) little effect on actual battles. You don't need to consider them unless you have an obsession with the balance of mitigations.

Suffix
- Dampening is the best suffix: it is slightly better than Protection.
- Protection is good and looks cool: I'll choose it than Dampening.
- Deflection is also good: but inferior to Dampening (and Protection).
- Stoneskin and Warding are... better than nothing.


Great explanation..
Yeah, mine is better than nothing... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

But i thought warding is as good as protect because magical attack is way more fatal than physical though it's not as frequently as physical... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post May 30 2018, 23:46
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 30 2018, 18:22) *

This is completely allowed. You are even allowed that to write that you don't trust a specific shop because you had a bad experience.

speaking of which, we should really start to give users a chance to objectively express their opinions about the various shops. sort of a review thread for customers, from customers.
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post May 31 2018, 04:10
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 31 2018, 04:46) *

speaking of which, we should really start to give users a chance to objectively express their opinions about the various shops. sort of a review thread for customers, from customers.


For me, all shops are great. Their services are the best, no negative verdicts at all, it's just sometimes they kinda late in replying the request because we live in different countries so i know the time differences is one of many factors... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 31 2018, 04:31
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I'm new to HV and posting in the forums, but reading this thread, is it really bad or discouraged to name shops when people need goods? Shouldn't that be encouraged?

And naming bad or overpriced shops... Who really cares aside from the owners of those shitty shops? If someone had a bad experience and learned a 1 million credit lesson, might as well be able to tell people when it comes up. I'm not saying you gotta hold a grudge and write bullshit 24/7 and spam the thread, but how is it helpful to anyone, especially new players, if there are predatory shops out there that you only learn to avoid once you get ripped off?

I mean, I've seen a... select few shopowners complain "Wah, we get badmouthed and people dislike us" but it's really, really not hard to turn that around. Just price things with a modicum of fairness and don't scam anyone.
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post May 31 2018, 07:59
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 30 2018, 23:46) *

speaking of which, we should really start to give users a chance to objectively express their opinions about the various shops. sort of a review thread for customers, from customers.

Bad, terrible, idea.
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post May 31 2018, 08:01
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QUOTE(aleden @ May 31 2018, 09:31) *

+++++

Well, actually it's not getting scammed or not. Because there are smartsearch script (i never use it actually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) and "price check" thread. And imo, noobs have to read first (read wiki, thread for boobs noob, faq and rules, anything...) before post anything like "i got scammed by xx". And i think no shops in wts are scamming players (in fact there are some that helping boobs noobs for free), it depends on how we (boobs noobs) search and compare between shops before buy...

Just my 2cents..
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post May 31 2018, 08:33
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So I upgraded this Legendary Demonic Rapier of the Nimble and it turned out to be a great investment.

I managed to beat IWBTH Eternal Darkness in 3489 turns and 25 minutes,much better than I expected from one piece of gear, thank you for the advice experts, you're amazing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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