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post May 23 2018, 10:10
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 14:40) *

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Imo, everyone at your level is ready for PFDWD, but with right equipments and a lot of preparations like items, skill, buffs, and debuff. In my case, i cleared dwd at iwbth at lv.311, i started pfudor at lv.33x. And for the title, dovahkiin is for 2h/dw/niten with light armor, the rest use godslayer...

(Correct me if i'm wrong)
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post May 23 2018, 10:13
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QUOTE(pooaa @ May 23 2018, 16:00) *

If you're using 1h, get a good force shield and forge block will help alot.
And remember to use spirit shield.

Yea I am using One-handed Fighting Styles and this is the shield I am using. I am not so sure if it is worth to forge so I left it untouched. No luck in Force Shield drops.

QUOTE(igs88 @ May 23 2018, 16:10) *

Imo, everyone at your level is ready for PFDWD, but with right equipments and a lot of preparations like items, skill, buffs, and debuff. In my case, i cleared dwd at iwbth at lv.311, i started pfudor at lv.33x. And for the title, dovahkiin is for 2h/dw/niten with light armor, the rest use godslayer...

(Correct me if i'm wrong)

Wait is FRD only usable for those fighting styles or it just doesn't fit well in other ones? I am actually considering using the Dovahkiin title and see if it could save me some draughts and potions. I mean 10% doesn't look a great deal for me (I only have 4.6k base attack damage to work with at the moment) and the last few arena challenges are hour-runs for me anyway...
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post May 23 2018, 11:08
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 16:23) *

Wait is FRD only usable for those fighting styles or it just doesn't fit well in other ones. I am actually considering using the Dovahkiin title and see if it could save me some draughts and potions. I mean 10% doesn't look a great deal for me (I only have 4.6k base attack damage to work with at the moment) and the last few arena challenges are hour-runs for me anyway...

Just not fit, you can use it with the title no matter what style you are.
10% => kill faster => less chance get hit => save more draught and time,
and stunned monster won't give you counter attack.

The shield isn't worth, a plain force shield won't cost too much i think.
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post May 23 2018, 11:18
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 15:23) *

Wait is FRD only usable for those fighting styles or it just doesn't fit well in other ones. I am actually considering using the Dovahkiin title and see if it could save me some draughts and potions. I mean 10% doesn't look a great deal for me (I only have 4.6k base attack damage to work with at the moment) and the last few arena challenges are hour-runs for me anyway...


Because styles with light armor depend on parry, evade, resist, and attack speed for defend and frd will stun all enemies and you can attack them freely. If you use 1h-shield, block and counter will do great help, no need any frd. For mage, they will dealt one-shot kill almost to all enemies like casting OFC every round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) , so frd is so useless. And godslayer will affect the damage dealt in real battle, not in stats.

I had tried it before, i used dovahkiin with 1h and i feel better using 1h-power +godslayer till now. You can tried it too, for experiment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post May 23 2018, 11:47
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 23 2018, 17:18) *

Because styles with light armor depend on parry, evade, resist, and attack speed for defend and frd will stun all enemies and you can attack them freely. If you use 1h-shield, block and counter will do great help, no need any frd. For mage, they will dealt one-shot kill almost to all enemies like casting OFC every round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) , so frd is so useless. And godslayer will affect the damage dealt in real battle, not in stats.

I had tried it before, i used dovahkiin with 1h and i feel better using 1h-power +godslayer till now. You can tried it too, for experiment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(Correct me if i'm wrong)

I had a question on how people survive playing light armor styles, so FRD is the thing I lack.

So I tried switching to niten at around level 270. I equipped a mix of shade of the fleet and shadowdancer. Those were Exq/Mag EQs and level were not too low, and 2H, DW, Light Armor Prof all above 200, but it was still hard for me to survive the 20-floor arena till the end at Hard/Nightmare (forgot which one) difficulty. Gonna give it another shot after I get the title (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 23 2018, 12:03
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 16:47) *

I had a question on how people survive playing light armor styles, so FRD is the thing I lack.

So I tried switching to niten at around level 270. I equipped a mix of shade of the fleet and shadowdancer. Those were Exq/Mag EQs and level were not too low, and 2H, DW, Light Armor Prof all above 200, but it was still hard for me to survive the 20-floor arena till the end at Hard/Nightmare (forgot which one) difficulty. Gonna give it another shot after I get the title (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Ah.., i asked about things like 2h-light 2-3 pages back in this thread, you can check them out, because 2 experts (in 2h/dw/niten style) answered my questions. And.., it helped me.., a lot... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 23 2018, 13:03
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 23 2018, 18:03) *

Ah.., i asked about things like 2h-light 2-3 pages back in this thread, you can check them out, because 2 experts (in 2h/dw/niten style) answered my questions. And.., it helped me.., a lot... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just went through the posts once.

Bookmarked for later since I am having headache:wacko:
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post May 23 2018, 13:47
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ May 23 2018, 08:09) *

PXP0 is complicated, I'm not sure we ever fully explained or agreed on how it works.

maybe because we actually weren't. we can only assume.

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the only sure thing is that PXP0 isn't affected by EDB, BUR and ITR, at least on melee weapons. this comes from the fact that an elemental and an ethereal version of the same gear have the same PXP0.

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But usually you would look for a weapon with higher PXP0 because in all probability it means the stats are higher on average.

right and left wrong. if PXP0 is really a sum of all base values (or related to that, how we suppose) it's also true that when you do a sum you lose all infos about the single terms. and we all know that certain stats are more coveted than others (just look at all those people betting an arm and a leg on a 90% weapon and shitting on a 70% one, when the actual difference is negligible...)

in lawman's term, you could absolutely not be sure that higher PXP0 means higher stats where it counts even if you knew how it works.
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post May 23 2018, 15:45
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ May 22 2018, 22:50) *

[...] 1H relies on Block and Parry to tank hits. Ideally you should be using a Rapier/Shortsword of Slaughter, a Force shield, and Plate/Power armor. Interference will be much higher than any other playstyle, but that doesn't matter since you won't need to cure much and you'll be able to maintain spirit stance all the time (which reduces spell cost). [...] If you need better gear, there are several shops in the WTS section that offer free/cheap equips [...]

I purchased two better 1H weapons from a shop, just waiting for the reply/MoogleMail.
It seems I have to SoulFuse one, to be able to use it.
Which one would you recommend?:
- Legendary Shocking Axe of Slaughter
- Legendary Tempestous Shortsword of Slaughter

I went and changed my other equipment to Heavy Armor.
Though I am again doubting between two sets.
With set 1, I focused on defense (and healing). With set 2, I focused on offense.
Which set is better?:
[i.imgur.com] Set 1
[i.imgur.com] Set 2

Here are the equipment links.

Set 1:
Main hand: Superior Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
Off hand: Average Buckler of the Barrier
Helmet: Exquisite Plate Helmet of Dampening
Body: Exquisite Plate Cuirass of Protection
Hands: Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legs: Magnificent Plate Greaves of Warding
Feet: Superior Plate Sabatons of Protection

Set 2:
Main hand: Superior Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
Off hand: Average Force Shield of Protection
Helmet: Exquisite Plate Helmet of Dampening
Body: Average Power Armor of Protection
Hands: Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legs: Superior Power Leggings of Warding
Feet: Superior Power Boots of Warding

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post May 23 2018, 16:25
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QUOTE(PC-Reviver @ May 23 2018, 20:45) *

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Set 2 is good enough, for weapon i recommend you to search for a rapier and force shield that the level close to yours, so at least you're not gonna soulfuse them. Because at your level you're gonna change/switch equipments pretty fast, so don't waste your soulfrags, except you have a decent legendary tier equipment that worth it. And for the armors, you should change them to all exquisite power at least..

Just my 2 cents... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 23 2018, 19:42
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The Shortsword would be much better than the Axe. I used a similar Shortsword when I was around your level. Get it to IW 10 to get Void Strike, and put 5 levels of forging on each stat.

Next objective should be obtaining a decent force shield. You'll want to get your block as high as possible, and this could get expensive. Look for a Magnificent/Legendary Force shield with decent block. Kite might be fine at your level, but I wouldn't soulfuse it or forge it too much.

For the Armor, try to get a full set of Exquisite/Magnificent Power Armor of Protection/Warding. If you struggle to survive with a full set of power armor, try switching out one or two pieces for Plate of Protection. At your level I used a mixed set of power and plate, mostly Exq/Mag and could do everything on PFUDOR.

Also judging by your screenshots it seems you don't have at least some of the abilities relevant to your play style slotted. Go to the abilities page and make sure that you have unlocked and slotted all the General, Heavy Armor, One-Handed abilities, and in Supportive 1 & 2 Better Cure, Better Regen, Stronger Spirit, Better Protection, Better Spark, and a Spike Shield.

And in case you don't do this already, keep Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Protection, Regen, and Heartseeker active in battle. You might also consider getting a couple levels of the Innate Arcana hath perk to make this a little more convenient (and slightly cheaper mana wise)

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post May 24 2018, 11:09
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ May 23 2018, 19:42) *

The Shortsword would be much better than the Axe. I used a similar Shortsword when I was around your level. Get it to IW 10 to get Void Strike, and put 5 levels of forging on each stat.

Next objective should be obtaining a decent force shield. You'll want to get your block as high as possible, and this could get expensive. Look for a Magnificent/Legendary Force shield with decent block. Kite might be fine at your level, but I wouldn't soulfuse it or forge it too much.

For the Armor, try to get a full set of Exquisite/Magnificent Power Armor of Protection/Warding. If you struggle to survive with a full set of power armor, try switching out one or two pieces for Plate of Protection. At your level I used a mixed set of power and plate, mostly Exq/Mag and could do everything on PFUDOR.

Also judging by your screenshots it seems you don't have at least some of the abilities relevant to your play style slotted. Go to the abilities page and make sure that you have unlocked and slotted all the General, Heavy Armor, One-Handed abilities, and in Supportive 1 & 2 Better Cure, Better Regen, Stronger Spirit, Better Protection, Better Spark, and a Spike Shield.

And in case you don't do this already, keep Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Protection, Regen, and Heartseeker active in battle. You might also consider getting a couple levels of the Innate Arcana hath perk to make this a little more convenient (and slightly cheaper mana wise)



Sorry for butting in, but reading this gave me a question: Wouldn't this set of equipment make runs take a long time to complete?

I'm running a DW+Light combo and sometimes it takes me between 20-30 minutes to complete Etarnal Darkness in IWBTH.

I wanted to change to 1H+Heavy, but the fact that I think it's going to take more time to complete runs puts me off.
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post May 24 2018, 12:03
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QUOTE(savethequeen2 @ May 24 2018, 16:09) *

I wanted to change to 1H+Heavy, but the fact that I think it's going to take more time to complete runs puts me off.

But it has the highest survivability in all type of battle, and of course with the good equipments and profs.
Ahh.., if i only i can put regen and heartseeker in IA slot... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post May 24 2018, 12:04
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Not sure if a bug? Found a spooky staff that I guess might have a rounding error on the soul fragments?Attached Image
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post May 24 2018, 12:10
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ May 24 2018, 18:04) *

Not sure if a bug? Found a spooky staff that I guess might have a rounding error on the soul fragments?Attached Image

The 9-10 rounding errors appear a lot. And remember, it's never a bug. It's a feature.
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post May 24 2018, 16:55
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ May 24 2018, 12:04) *

Not sure if a bug? Found a spooky staff that I guess might have a rounding error on the soul fragments?Attached Image


That's what you get when calculations are made in floating (possibly just 32bit reals) then you convert the final value top integer. It gets truncated instead of rounded, and "1339,998" that would be expected to give "1340" comes out as "1339" instead. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I doubt someone will ever bother to change this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post May 24 2018, 20:38
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QUOTE(as013 @ May 24 2018, 12:10) *

The 9-10 rounding errors appear a lot. And remember, it's never a bug. It's a feature.

Silly you. That's not a feature, that's working as intended.
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post May 24 2018, 21:06
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QUOTE(savethequeen2 @ May 24 2018, 09:09) *

Sorry for butting in, but reading this gave me a question: Wouldn't this set of equipment make runs take a long time to complete?

I'm running a DW+Light combo and sometimes it takes me between 20-30 minutes to complete Etarnal Darkness in IWBTH.

I wanted to change to 1H+Heavy, but the fact that I think it's going to take more time to complete runs puts me off.

I don't know much about DW Light. I've only ever used 1H. But one thing that you can do with melee regardless of build is use infusions on your weapons. The SG's are weak to Holy and Dark, so infuse your main hand with either and that should improve clear speed by a fair bit. Use featherweight shards on your weapons (and leather if you have any) to lower burden. All I know other than that is that there are a few good weapon combos (Club+Rapier, Rapier+Waki, maybe a couple more), and that for armor Shadowdancer > Fleet > Arcanist = Negation. As for how an optimized DW Light build compares to 1H Heavy, I have no idea.
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post May 24 2018, 22:55
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 24 2018, 12:03) *

Ahh.., if i only i can put regen and heartseeker in IA slot... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

... you'd be dangerously close to botting (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post May 25 2018, 00:32
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Has anyone tried to figure out the difference between an item's drop chance and its representation in wts? Three weeks later and I'm still nowhere near completing the look.

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