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post May 22 2018, 13:08
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Wiki page advised mage stats can kept low or even 0 for STR and DEX. But I doubted it is not suitable to those players new to mage gear right?

Only if you have good enough mage build, then you may not need large spirit pool to clear x20 Arena, RB and RE safely. Otherwise keeping STR and DEX very low will lose 1-200 spirit points but not helping you increase even 1-3 points for INT & WIS, doesn't it sounds bad idea? Even you completed your mage build, if you planned to play x20 IW and GF, I don't think you won't consume your spirit pool brutally in higher rounds, unless you always use special items.

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post May 22 2018, 14:03
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ May 22 2018, 14:08) *

Wiki page advised mage stats can kept low or even 0 for STR and DEX. But I doubted it is not suitable to those players new to mage gear right?

Only if you have good enough mage build, then you may not need large spirit pool to clear x20 Arena, RB and RE safely. Otherwise keeping STR and DEX very low will lose 1-200 spirit points but not helping you increase even 1-3 points for INT & WIS, doesn't it sounds bad idea? Even you completed your mage build, if you planned to play x20 IW and GF, I don't think you won't consume your spirit pool brutally in higher rounds, unless you always use special items.

Both pabs and hath perk increase base spirit. If you're using spirit for spirit shield or sol, these use up percentage of base spirit, so afaik it doesn't matter how big your spirit bar is in spirit units, the more you have - the more you'll consume. Only spirit ability increases your max spirit by percentage of base, so consumption (in spirit units) stays the same, while actual amount of spirit available increases.

PS. I keep a bit of dex on my mage for that little amount of free parry.

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post May 22 2018, 14:07
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ May 22 2018, 14:03) *

Both pabs and hath perk increase base spirit. If you're using spirit for spirit shield or sol, these use up percentage of base spirit, so afaik it doesn't matter how big your spirit bar is in spirit units, the more you have - the more you'll consume. Only spirit ability increases your max spirit by percentage of base, so consumption (in spirit units) stays the same, while actual amount of spirit available increases.

Correct. More spirit has exactly zero effect. DEX however, gives you a bit of parry even as mage. Doesn't help a lot, but is not completely useless either. I have 21% parry change, only for DEX.
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post May 22 2018, 20:25
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This is my first time asking for help, so I'm sorry if I'm not doing it right.
Please let me know how to do better.

I haven't changed my equipment in years, so I decided to do that today.
I went through my inventory and did my best to determine the best equipment for me.
I tried to pick armor with optimal physical mitigation and magical mitigation, and with low interference.
My reasoning for low interference, is that I want to keep healing mana-cost-efficient, so I don't run out of it too fast and can keep fighting.

Apparently, I was already wearing almost all Shade equipment.
I'm still not sure how I managed to find so much of it, since I have never utilized the forums to get any items.

My question is this: Is my new equipment set actually better than my old equipment set?

[i.imgur.com] Old set
[i.imgur.com] New set

Here are all the equipment links.

Old set:
Main hand: Superior Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
Off hand: -
Helmet: Superior Shade Helmet of Negation
Body: Exquisite Zircon Shade Breastplate of the Arcanist
Hands: Superior Shade Gauntlets of Negation
Legs: Average Shade Leggings of the Arcanist
Feet: Average Shade Boots of Negation

New set:
Main hand: Superior Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
Off hand: Average Buckler of the Barrier
Helmet: Superior Leather Helmet of Warding
Body: Exquisite Zircon Shade Breastplate of the Arcanist
Hands: Exquisite Leather Gauntlets of Protection
Legs: Exquisite Leather Leggings of Protection
Feet: Superior Leather Boots of Warding
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post May 22 2018, 22:50
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QUOTE(PC-Reviver @ May 22 2018, 18:25) *

My question is this: Is my new equipment set actually better than my old equipment set?


New set is slightly better, but they're both not good for 1H. Light armor is best for DW and I think 2H and Niten. 1H relies on Block and Parry to tank hits. Ideally you should be using a Rapier/Shortsword of Slaughter, a Force shield, and Plate/Power armor. Interference will be much higher than any other playstyle, but that doesn't matter since you won't need to cure much and you'll be able to maintain spirit stance all the time (which reduces spell cost). Draughts are super cheap anyway, so don't be afraid to use them as often as needed. If you'd rather keep using light armor, you should switch from 1H to DW or 2H. I'm not an expert on either of those playstyles though.


If you need better gear, there are several shops in the WTS section that offer free/cheap equips and consumables to low level players. FreeShop, and decondelites shop/auctions are good places to start looking.
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post May 23 2018, 04:24
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What is the best way to get started with the Monster Lab?
Is it better to choose your stats carefully or just inflate PL, how do you spend your crystals?
I'm level 245, I mainly want to get gifts and credits

BTW I have a monster at PL 66 that keeps getting its name removed, I've tried several names and the monster is always back to being unnamed after a while.
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post May 23 2018, 07:07
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QUOTE(Masei @ May 23 2018, 04:24) *

What is the best way to get started with the Monster Lab?
Is it better to choose your stats carefully or just inflate PL, how do you spend your crystals?
I'm level 245, I mainly want to get gifts and credits

BTW I have a monster at PL 66 that keeps getting its name removed, I've tried several names and the monster is always back to being unnamed after a while.


create more monsters, don't use chaos tokens on your monsters. Use crystals only when morale is gettin low, or you can even use happy pills. By far the best return on investment: many monsters of PL25 without chaos upgrades.

When you have good income, you can choose 1 or 2 monsters (with funny monster names) that you will feed lots of crystals. Then, at PL1000-1100 or so, us high-level players will meet them. You get income from players that flee from battle. You can upgrade those monsters with some chaos tokens to increase chance of double gifts. But this has a very long pay-back period. So do this only when you are rich. And only with funny monster names (when in doubt, you can ask for advice on this).

If your name gets removed, that's strange. Could it be some script that's doing something wrong? Monster names don't get removed by admin - at least not that I know. Some words are blocked, but those you can't enter ('that's a bad name, and you should feel ashamed'-message). And really unimaginative names, like numbering them, will lead to flagged monsters that don't give gifts. Only way to remove name is if you click 'delete monser' or if the monster-naming hasn't succeeded in the first place.
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post May 23 2018, 07:55
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 23 2018, 07:07) *

When you have good income, you can choose 1 or 2 monsters (with funny monster names)

Don't mislead him, that's not a rule.
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post May 23 2018, 08:09
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PXP0 is complicated, I'm not sure we ever fully explained or agreed on how it works. It seems to reflect the sum of all the weapon stats as said, but it also turns around and adds a tiny bonus into each stat. The tiny bonus is bigger for some stats and smaller for others, and it also matters because forging does not improve the tiny bonus.

So if you had 2 weapons with the exact same stats, and different PXP0, the lower PXP0 weapon actually becomes a tiny tiny bit better after forging.

But usually you would look for a weapon with higher PXP0 because in all probability it means the stats are higher on average.
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post May 23 2018, 09:40
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So I am approaching Level 300, the level to be able to do A Dance with Dragons. I am currently running all others Arena challenges at PFUDOR with no problems, but kinda scared to do DwD at IWTBH/PFUDOR for few reasons.

1. The fact that it is the very last challenge of the Arena.
2. I don't see many players using the Dovahkiin title. Either it is too hard or people prefer 10% bonus damage of Godslayer, the latter is more likely to be the case I guess.
3. I took a lot more damage than usual as well as being sparked many times today when doing the first Arena challenges from First Blood to Dark Skies on the first page. Equipments were repaired too. Could this be a sign that I am not ready for DwD yet?

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post May 23 2018, 10:00
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 15:40) *

So I am approaching Level 300, the level to be able to do A Dance with Dragons. I am currently running all others Arena challenges at PFUDOR with no problems, but kinda scared to do DwD at IWTBH/PFUDOR for few reasons.

1. The fact that it is the very last challenge of the Arena.
2. I don't see many players using the Dovahkiin title. Either it is too hard or people prefer 10% bonus damage of Godslayer, the latter is more likely to be the case I guess.
3. I took a lot more damage than usual as well as being sparked many times today when doing the first Arena challenges from First Blood to Dark Skies on the first page. Equipments were repaired too. Could this be a sign that I am not ready for DwD yet?

Thank you.

If you're using 1h, get a good force shield and forge block will help alot.
And remember to use spirit shield.
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post May 23 2018, 10:10
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 14:40) *

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Imo, everyone at your level is ready for PFDWD, but with right equipments and a lot of preparations like items, skill, buffs, and debuff. In my case, i cleared dwd at iwbth at lv.311, i started pfudor at lv.33x. And for the title, dovahkiin is for 2h/dw/niten with light armor, the rest use godslayer...

(Correct me if i'm wrong)
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post May 23 2018, 10:13
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QUOTE(pooaa @ May 23 2018, 16:00) *

If you're using 1h, get a good force shield and forge block will help alot.
And remember to use spirit shield.

Yea I am using One-handed Fighting Styles and this is the shield I am using. I am not so sure if it is worth to forge so I left it untouched. No luck in Force Shield drops.

QUOTE(igs88 @ May 23 2018, 16:10) *

Imo, everyone at your level is ready for PFDWD, but with right equipments and a lot of preparations like items, skill, buffs, and debuff. In my case, i cleared dwd at iwbth at lv.311, i started pfudor at lv.33x. And for the title, dovahkiin is for 2h/dw/niten with light armor, the rest use godslayer...

(Correct me if i'm wrong)

Wait is FRD only usable for those fighting styles or it just doesn't fit well in other ones? I am actually considering using the Dovahkiin title and see if it could save me some draughts and potions. I mean 10% doesn't look a great deal for me (I only have 4.6k base attack damage to work with at the moment) and the last few arena challenges are hour-runs for me anyway...
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post May 23 2018, 11:08
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 16:23) *

Wait is FRD only usable for those fighting styles or it just doesn't fit well in other ones. I am actually considering using the Dovahkiin title and see if it could save me some draughts and potions. I mean 10% doesn't look a great deal for me (I only have 4.6k base attack damage to work with at the moment) and the last few arena challenges are hour-runs for me anyway...

Just not fit, you can use it with the title no matter what style you are.
10% => kill faster => less chance get hit => save more draught and time,
and stunned monster won't give you counter attack.

The shield isn't worth, a plain force shield won't cost too much i think.
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post May 23 2018, 11:18
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 15:23) *

Wait is FRD only usable for those fighting styles or it just doesn't fit well in other ones. I am actually considering using the Dovahkiin title and see if it could save me some draughts and potions. I mean 10% doesn't look a great deal for me (I only have 4.6k base attack damage to work with at the moment) and the last few arena challenges are hour-runs for me anyway...


Because styles with light armor depend on parry, evade, resist, and attack speed for defend and frd will stun all enemies and you can attack them freely. If you use 1h-shield, block and counter will do great help, no need any frd. For mage, they will dealt one-shot kill almost to all enemies like casting OFC every round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) , so frd is so useless. And godslayer will affect the damage dealt in real battle, not in stats.

I had tried it before, i used dovahkiin with 1h and i feel better using 1h-power +godslayer till now. You can tried it too, for experiment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(Correct me if i'm wrong)
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post May 23 2018, 11:47
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 23 2018, 17:18) *

Because styles with light armor depend on parry, evade, resist, and attack speed for defend and frd will stun all enemies and you can attack them freely. If you use 1h-shield, block and counter will do great help, no need any frd. For mage, they will dealt one-shot kill almost to all enemies like casting OFC every round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) , so frd is so useless. And godslayer will affect the damage dealt in real battle, not in stats.

I had tried it before, i used dovahkiin with 1h and i feel better using 1h-power +godslayer till now. You can tried it too, for experiment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(Correct me if i'm wrong)

I had a question on how people survive playing light armor styles, so FRD is the thing I lack.

So I tried switching to niten at around level 270. I equipped a mix of shade of the fleet and shadowdancer. Those were Exq/Mag EQs and level were not too low, and 2H, DW, Light Armor Prof all above 200, but it was still hard for me to survive the 20-floor arena till the end at Hard/Nightmare (forgot which one) difficulty. Gonna give it another shot after I get the title (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 23 2018, 12:03
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QUOTE(monkey_lmf @ May 23 2018, 16:47) *

I had a question on how people survive playing light armor styles, so FRD is the thing I lack.

So I tried switching to niten at around level 270. I equipped a mix of shade of the fleet and shadowdancer. Those were Exq/Mag EQs and level were not too low, and 2H, DW, Light Armor Prof all above 200, but it was still hard for me to survive the 20-floor arena till the end at Hard/Nightmare (forgot which one) difficulty. Gonna give it another shot after I get the title (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Ah.., i asked about things like 2h-light 2-3 pages back in this thread, you can check them out, because 2 experts (in 2h/dw/niten style) answered my questions. And.., it helped me.., a lot... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 23 2018, 13:03
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QUOTE(igs88 @ May 23 2018, 18:03) *

Ah.., i asked about things like 2h-light 2-3 pages back in this thread, you can check them out, because 2 experts (in 2h/dw/niten style) answered my questions. And.., it helped me.., a lot... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just went through the posts once.

Bookmarked for later since I am having headache:wacko:
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post May 23 2018, 13:47
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ May 23 2018, 08:09) *

PXP0 is complicated, I'm not sure we ever fully explained or agreed on how it works.

maybe because we actually weren't. we can only assume.

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the only sure thing is that PXP0 isn't affected by EDB, BUR and ITR, at least on melee weapons. this comes from the fact that an elemental and an ethereal version of the same gear have the same PXP0.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ May 23 2018, 08:09) *

But usually you would look for a weapon with higher PXP0 because in all probability it means the stats are higher on average.

right and left wrong. if PXP0 is really a sum of all base values (or related to that, how we suppose) it's also true that when you do a sum you lose all infos about the single terms. and we all know that certain stats are more coveted than others (just look at all those people betting an arm and a leg on a 90% weapon and shitting on a 70% one, when the actual difference is negligible...)

in lawman's term, you could absolutely not be sure that higher PXP0 means higher stats where it counts even if you knew how it works.
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post May 23 2018, 15:45
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ May 22 2018, 22:50) *

[...] 1H relies on Block and Parry to tank hits. Ideally you should be using a Rapier/Shortsword of Slaughter, a Force shield, and Plate/Power armor. Interference will be much higher than any other playstyle, but that doesn't matter since you won't need to cure much and you'll be able to maintain spirit stance all the time (which reduces spell cost). [...] If you need better gear, there are several shops in the WTS section that offer free/cheap equips [...]

I purchased two better 1H weapons from a shop, just waiting for the reply/MoogleMail.
It seems I have to SoulFuse one, to be able to use it.
Which one would you recommend?:
- Legendary Shocking Axe of Slaughter
- Legendary Tempestous Shortsword of Slaughter

I went and changed my other equipment to Heavy Armor.
Though I am again doubting between two sets.
With set 1, I focused on defense (and healing). With set 2, I focused on offense.
Which set is better?:
[i.imgur.com] Set 1
[i.imgur.com] Set 2

Here are the equipment links.

Set 1:
Main hand: Superior Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
Off hand: Average Buckler of the Barrier
Helmet: Exquisite Plate Helmet of Dampening
Body: Exquisite Plate Cuirass of Protection
Hands: Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legs: Magnificent Plate Greaves of Warding
Feet: Superior Plate Sabatons of Protection

Set 2:
Main hand: Superior Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
Off hand: Average Force Shield of Protection
Helmet: Exquisite Plate Helmet of Dampening
Body: Average Power Armor of Protection
Hands: Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Legs: Superior Power Leggings of Warding
Feet: Superior Power Boots of Warding

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