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post May 12 2018, 23:16
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QUOTE(Garde9 @ May 12 2018, 22:17) *

I'm asking because Absorb desc says that it blocks the next magical attack, does that mean you can cheat it by changing a Celestial's second skill to physical holy?


works as described. absorbs the next magical attack. Physical holy - that's ... hmm, let me think, ... physical, perhaps?


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post May 13 2018, 00:17
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I just earn about 2M credits and 1.3k hath from bounty, how should I spend them?(I have all auto-cast slots unlocked)
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post May 13 2018, 00:18
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Since we're on melee, is there an accuracy standard for gosu fighterZ or will 5 slaughters always beat (more damage * misses over time) 4slaughter 1balance?

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post May 13 2018, 00:48
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 13 2018, 00:18) *

Since we're on melee, is there an accuracy standard for gosu fighterZ or will 5 slaughters always beat (more damage * misses over time) 4slaughter 1balance?

Let's say that if you like bragging about how big is your e-peenis attack base damage, full slaughter you go. But if you want to actually be efficient, it'd be wise to do the necessary so that your attacks don't get evaded/parried too much. It'd also be wise to evaluate how much a boost in crit chance would benefit you on average, compared to a boost in raw damage.

Whatever the style (1H, 2H, Niten, DW), you should be able to reach 200% accuracy with a full slaughter and a lot of forging. Even then, your crit chance wouldn't be as high as it'd be with a few Balance parts.

In then end, I think it's so-so overall (or at least I wouldn't be surprised it's the case), but I'm not sure it's the case since I haven't done calculations. However, what I'm sure about, is that if you do decide to go the Balance way, it'd be wise to invest more points into the Str stat and less in the Dex stat because you will be able to reach 200% accuracy anyway by forging.
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post May 13 2018, 01:12
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Hello experts!

I've been dabbling in maging a big more recently, and recently picked up two staves from auction. I've heard the two good imperil-less builds to be electric or holy. Which staff should I use if I was leaning to imperil-less electric? I'm thinking the one with higher prof, but I wanted to check to be sure. I also didn't know the elemental prof factor for a just electric build, I assume it is like holy and 1.0, but I wanted to check to be sure.

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I know that Willow is probably still better (don't know if it is required for imperil-less- please say it is not), but I wanted some advice before I forge a decent amount into it.

My only goal is to equal my current trashy unforged wind set, so just IWBTH arenas, which I hope will be doable with one of these staves as a start.
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post May 13 2018, 01:33
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 13 2018, 01:47) *

I just earn about 2M credits and 1.3k hath from bounty, how should I spend them?(I have all auto-cast slots unlocked)
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I can't tell your gears, but from your burden stat, it makes think you're still on exquisites and plates. If so I'd recommend you to get a full magnificent power armor set and perhaps a magnificent force shield.
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post May 13 2018, 01:44
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For extra collectibles that I get from drops, is it better to sell them to other players or should I shrine them for the potential bindings and materials?
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post May 13 2018, 01:51
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For extra collectibles that I get from drops, is it better to sell them to other players or should I shrine them for the potential bindings and materials?


I'm not entirely sure what you mean by extra collectables but sell them to other players who are willing to pay with credits or trade stuff for them.
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post May 13 2018, 01:51
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sell them to player
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post May 13 2018, 08:42
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ May 13 2018, 01:12) *

Hello experts!

I've been dabbling in maging a big more recently, and recently picked up two staves from auction. I've heard the two good imperil-less builds to be electric or holy. Which staff should I use if I was leaning to imperil-less electric? I'm thinking the one with higher prof, but I wanted to check to be sure. I also didn't know the elemental prof factor for a just electric build, I assume it is like holy and 1.0, but I wanted to check to be sure.

Staff 1: [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/159392198/fc05c92560

Staff 2: [alt.hentaiverse.org] http://alt.hentaiverse.org/equip/143565760/584ded83ec

I know that Willow is probably still better (don't know if it is required for imperil-less- please say it is not), but I wanted some advice before I forge a decent amount into it.

My only goal is to equal my current trashy unforged wind set, so just IWBTH arenas, which I hope will be doable with one of these staves as a start.



I know there is one Very Strong electric mage, who can play efficiently without imperil. He has lot's of radiant, a peerless staff iirc, and lots of forging. My advice: Don't try to do this with normal gear...

Imperil play will be faster and easier for a long while. In the mean time, you can build up your fortune that you need for the non-imperil quality gear. For that, both staves are 'meh'. They lack willows counter resist, and MDB/EDB are lowish. At least the lv500 has high proficiency, but that's easy to come by. Not worth the soulfuse, I'd say.

Yes, both staves are good enough for beating your current trashy unforged wind set, for IWBTH arenas. But probably not without imperil.
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post May 13 2018, 09:28
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No, you don't wanna try non-imperil style right now.
Without massive forging, good radiants, non-imperil would be slower and more fragile than imperil style. You spark in hell if you don't forge the evasion, mitigations. Also people using full radiants will need more scrolls and elixirs in PFDfest.
Willow staff gives you more counter-resist and deprecating profs. Try getting a cheap one.
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post May 13 2018, 09:55
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 13 2018, 00:16) *

works as described. absorbs the next magical attack. Physical holy - that's ... hmm, let me think, ... physical, perhaps?

Then who in their right mind would actually set the skill to magical if it gets absorbed?
What is the point of having two options when one of them is plain better?
You also have elementals who always deal magic damage, why don't their basic attacks proc absorb?
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post May 13 2018, 10:15
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Hello.
My usual user ID is "akkr273".
I bought a Gold Star about 1~2 weeks ago, but a Few days later, a blank page and "Account Suspended" is displayed.

I sent PM to Tenboro, but I still haven't received a reply.
How can I get it back?
I thought that purchasing a Gold Star from other players was not an evil.
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post May 13 2018, 10:15
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QUOTE(Garde9 @ May 13 2018, 09:55) *

Then who in their right mind would actually set the skill to magical if it gets absorbed?
What is the point of having two options when one of them is plain better?
You also have elementals who always deal magic damage, why don't their basic attacks proc absorb?

Who in their mind? Everyone, because:
1) No one uses Absorb, it's a waste of mana
2) Absorb dispells once it's been activated
3) Most monster attacks are physical and player armor resists magic attacks less (especially when Protection suffix is favored instead of Warding), so they will deal more damage
4) Most of the monsters that are capable of magic attacks have way higher INT and WIS stats than physical stats, so the base power of magic attacks is way stronger than physical attacks for these monsters.
5) Is considered as a magical attack for Absorb to kick in any attack that is "casted". Or if you prefer, any MP/SP skill that is of magical type, which writes in the chat "XXX casts YYY".

So while it's technically possible for a celestial to perform physical holy attacks, or for a daimon to perform magical dark, it's not really recommended. But hey, players design their monsters the way they want, otherwise what would be the point of building up cuties?

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post May 13 2018, 10:40
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QUOTE(akkr_help @ May 13 2018, 10:15) *

Hello.
My usual user ID is "akkr273".
I bought a Gold Star about 1~2 weeks ago, but a Few days later, a blank page and "Account Suspended" is displayed.

I sent PM to Tenboro, but I still haven't received a reply.
How can I get it back?
I thought that purchasing a Gold Star from other players was not an evil.


If your account is suspended, that means that your account has been banned. Trust me, you don't get banned for buying a gold star. You get banned for cheating. Automatic play of HV is one sure way of getting this. So congrats, you're account is sent to the moon for a thousand years. You will not get it back.

Good bye.
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post May 13 2018, 10:52
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 13 2018, 11:15) *

No one uses Absorb, it's a waste of mana

Why is a useless skill even a thing then?
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post May 13 2018, 11:40
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 13 2018, 10:40) *

QUOTE(akkr_help @ May 13 2018, 10:15) *

Hello.
My usual user ID is "akkr273".
I bought a Gold Star about 1~2 weeks ago, but a Few days later, a blank page and "Account Suspended" is displayed.

I sent PM to Tenboro, but I still haven't received a reply.
How can I get it back?
I thought that purchasing a Gold Star from other players was not an evil.

If your account is suspended, that means that your account has been banned. Trust me, you don't get banned for buying a gold star. You get banned for cheating. Automatic play of HV is one sure way of getting this. So congrats, you're account is sent to the moon for a thousand years. You will not get it back.

as above.
akkr, i can see your name in the list of the recently banned users, and this usually happens because of botting (including but not limited to automatic play). i haven't heard of anyone having ever retrieved his account back after something like this, quite unlikely you'll have yours.
if you can really, really prove it happened by mistake, it's worth a try. otherwise, uh...

QUOTE(Garde9 @ May 13 2018, 10:52) *

Why is a useless skill even a thing then?

the mere fact it's useless now doesn't say anything about its eventual past utility. btw, it's just another safety layer to use in desperate situations when every tiny little bit helps.

now, what are we up to? do we want to debunk all the meta with one different topic per day, or are you actually asking something you ignore and would like an answer? you know, first attitude may be seen as quite annoying...

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post May 13 2018, 13:10
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What are you on about?
If absorb is as useless as he says, it's a noob trap that should be noted in the wiki if we assume it exists to make the game easier for the players.
If it's not useless then why does he say that it is?
Not to mention that there's absolutely nothing about Absorb blocking MP/SP spells instead of just magic attacks in the wiki just like there's nothing about physical elemental attacks being affected by physical mitigation and scaling with DEX rather than INT, hence my aforementioned questions.
I must be in the wrong thread because asking people here only gets them aggravated.
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post May 13 2018, 13:30
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i used it back then (mostly via scrolls), it wasn't very effective but it did something. i wouldn't use it now since i'm tanky enough anyways. not sure what's the condition for noobs.


and, uh, if you allow me... we assume people can do 2 + 2, so they can pick infos from a couple pages and assume simple conclusions like: magical attack = spell. or also (alright, this is a bit trickier, but still...): physical attack -> physical mitigation ( = PMI, for acronyms page), magical attack ( = spell, let's not forget it!) -> magical mitigation ( = MMI, still for acronyms page)

if we're assuming too many things, you're welcomed to point it out. we'll gladly lower wiki's average level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



tl;dr: sarcasm apart, you're part of a community, willingly or not. do a bit of research work, before coming here rambling because you cannot find infos that are just a couple clicks away from you.
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post May 13 2018, 13:30
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When i just buffed myself, don't have to heal, and my channeling buff is about to run out, i'm happy that i have absorb to cast for some protection and to leech some mana for a later heal.
But that's the only time i actually cast the thing, since spirit shield exist.

In fact, it's probably useful before you get spirit shield, if you fancy playing at higher difficulties before level 200 ( don't really know, never played harder than hell before 300-320 )

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