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I would just like to know of any ways of decreasing the damage I take from large groups of enemies and powerful enemies in general.

- More agility, less strenght
- Shade of the Fleet or at least Legendary leather
- Wakizashi of the Nimble
- Haste, Shadow Veil, Protection, Spark of Life (Innate Arcana slot)
- Cast Weaken one or two times when there are between 7 and 9 monsters

At your level I already had no problem on IWBTH, although most of my equipments were legendary...

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Problem 1: using niten. But it's only iwbth mode so let's just accept it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Problem 2: no debuffs. Weaken cuts damage by 50% and disables crits. Imperil lets you kill MUCH faster and is pretty much required for niten, especially with light armor and vs schoolgirls. If you're really trying to save points, you could use just sleep to disable three monsters while skyward sword kills the next five before they get a chance to do anything, but I don't think you'll have enough power without Power heavy armor.

You should be starting the round with skyward sword and killing all five procced monsters before penetrated armor wears off, but this requires an ethereal waki of balance for 100% offhand strike (or as close as possible), and both weapons to have two different infusions on them to get six strikes each hit. If you still can't kill fast enough, you'll have to start the round with sleep, or cast weaken a bunch of times, or start the round with about 160oc so you can use stanced skyward (110oc) and still have some left over to kill with. "Better gear" should ONLY come after all possible player improvements have been made.

It'd be a lot easier if you switch to dual wield and use power gear, since stanced frenzy is a guaranteed 5-monster kill and you'll have stun from club and parry from rapier to disable monsters while getting penetrated armor to cripple their defenses without needing skills or imperil, and it can be done with self-found random-drops gear. But if you must use niten, that's how you do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

PS the waki doesn't have to be ethereal, you'll just have to item world it to ten to get the void strike. A non-eth waki is far less burdensome than a non-eth katana.

This post has been edited by qw3rty67: May 7 2018, 21:03

So it looks like I should just drop nitem style and either switch to regular dual wielding with heavy armor or go one handed and (unsure on this) keep the leather armor.

And I should start using debuffs?

I mean, I use silence for whenever I go up against Real Life, Invisible Pink Unicorn, and Flying Spaghetti Monster; and I have invested ability points into the skill so would that be enough for the regular arena monsters I will encounter?

Also, for the rapier/club dual wielding combo, which goes in the main hand?

I will also be trying the spirit shield skill.

Thanks for all of the responses.

*bows head in thanks*

If you go DW, you ppl need to go light, mainhand rapier of slaughter+offhand waki of nimble/balance. Your level is too low, heavy DW with club of slaughter(main)+rapier of balance(off) might be too hard for you to survive in PFD.
Just my opinion, DW 2H players should know better than me.
If you go heavy 1H, you only need imperil, but silence/weaken will help you at your level.
Spirit shield is a must, get it now and put it on IA.

I guess i'll try 2h, but why estoc?

Let me guess, because players below 300 are playing with 1h or 2h style so they don't have cloth to rent or something like that (maybe unsure.gif )

And what kind of play style you play now?

I assume you're playing Mage since you use Cloth armor, Mage is generally not advised as it's quite expensive and most of the related abilities aren't unlocked yet, have you thought about switching to a different build?

No mage. I play DW but with Cloth because of the HIGH MP pool and evasion. I can clear Arenas at Nintendo difficulty pretty easy and fast, but I wanted to switch to leather now.

And thanks to jantch for the link to the shop!

monkey_lmf has some level 200+ exquisite cloth in his shop for between 2k and 3k.

You guys are awesome!<3

No mage. I play DW but with Cloth because of the HIGH MP pool and evasion. I can clear Arenas at Nintendo difficulty pretty easy and fast, but I wanted to switch to leather now.

And thanks to jantch for the link to the shop!
You guys are awesome!<3

I think leather(shade) has better evd?
And light skill has extra mp that should be enough, melee using cloth really waste the armor skill. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

No mage. I play DW but with Cloth because of the HIGH MP pool and evasion. I can clear Arenas at Nintendo difficulty pretty easy and fast, but I wanted to switch to leather now.

And thanks to jantch for the link to the shop!
You guys are awesome!<3

Cloth should only used for mage, not only the stat given isn't really good for melee (you really don't need INT and much mana for melee), the price is super expensive.

1H use power armor (or shielding, lot less cheaper) + shield to tank and counter-parry
2H and DW use shade to attack fast and rely more on evasion
Mage use staff + cloth or 1h + shield + cloth (a bit tankier) to stack magic damage so they can aoe kill the enemy before the enemy can damage them

1H is probably the most popular since it's the most trusted build that can clear anything in any difficulty while Mage is like explosive build that can clear rounds super fast but mostly only for end game players since the build up is super expensive mmm...

This post has been edited by VawX: May 8 2018, 08:14

- Cast Silence one or two times when there are between 7 and 9 monsters

Fixed that for you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by decondelite: May 8 2018, 10:24

When is it a good time to create my own monster?
I'm at Lvl 117 and created a monster today. I don't think I have enough resources to feed it.

Are elemental strikes affected by the corresponding bonus to spell damage ?
Would dual-wielding two fiery whatever be a good idea for example, assuming burden<40 ?

This post has been edited by Enatcon: May 8 2018, 11:01

When is it a good time to create my own monster?
I'm at Lvl 117 and created a monster today. I don't think I have enough resources to feed it.

When around your level, you just need to focus on leveling, my first monster when i was lv.25x and created more when i was lv.36x

Are elemental strikes affected by the corresponding bonus to spell damage ?
Would dual-wielding two fiery whatever be a good idea for example, assuming burden<40 ?

No, because elemental strike inflict physical damage, not spell damage
I think as long as your burden below 70 and you have high evade and resist chance (>50), then it's fine

[Correct me if i'm wrong]

ideally a DWer (shade armors in particular) may want for their BUR not only to be < 70, but as low as possible, since every BUR point lowers evade in a linear way.
the higher your starting evade, the bigger the decreasing effect. which means for a shade DWer BUR ~ 0 (thus, ethereal weapons or feather shards at least) is the way.

ideally a DWer (shade armors in particular) may want for their BUR not only to be < 70, but as low as possible, since every BUR point lowers evade in a linear way.
the higher your starting evade, the bigger the decreasing effect. which means for a shade DWer BUR ~ 0 (thus, ethereal weapons or feather shards at least) is the way.

What about 2h? Is it the same with DW that has to be 0 burden?

What about 2h? Is it the same with DW that has to be 0 burden?

2H and niten have two options: shade and power. if you want to go for shade path, then BUR as low as possible is still preferrable. maybe a bit less urgent because of splash damage, don't know. it's been a while since i last tried.

as for power, i suppose feathering at least a couple of your armors won't hurt. either way, you won't be able to negate *all* the burden, so...

What about 2h? Is it the same with DW that has to be 0 burden?

70 burden is only a "rule" for 1H and nothing else. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

No, because elemental strike inflict physical damage, not spell damage

So a 1000damage fire elemental strike of a fiery wakizashi of the weeaboo would do 1000 damage regardless of whether you're naked or have a full set of phase of Gardevoir ?
Guess this makes Ethereal a no-brainer then.

As for the burden discussion, as far as i'm concerned evasion is not really important since either the things are stunned or i'm dead. Well, i guess it does help for random encounter ?
But since ethereal is a no-brainer, 0 burden is the logical end-result of the perfect equipment 10 outta ten so whatever.


Still, kinda bummed that there's no exotic build possible.
DW phase cloth using spells to quickly kill the fodder and then slash the schoolgirls to pieces for example.

2H and niten have two options: shade and power. if you want to go for shade path, then BUR as low as possible is still preferrable. maybe a bit less urgent because of splash damage, don't know. it's been a while since i last tried.

as for power, i suppose feathering at least a couple of your armors won't hurt. either way, you won't be able to negate *all* the burden, so...

Ah.., feather.., yeah that makes sense, i was using niten power but because i was a big noob so i didn't have/use any feather then switched to 1h..

70 burden is only a "rule" for 1H and nothing else. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) that's why i want to try 2h or dw, i use 1h "way too long" i guess. My head is full of 1h (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

So a 1000damage fire elemental strike of a fiery wakizashi of the weeaboo would do 1000 damage regardless of whether you're naked or have a full set of phase of Gardevoir ?
Guess this makes Ethereal a no-brainer then.

As for the burden discussion, as far as i'm concerned evasion is not really important since either the things are stunned or i'm dead. Well, i guess it does help for random encounter ?
But since ethereal is a no-brainer, 0 burden is the logical end-result of the perfect equipment 10 outta ten so whatever.
Still, kinda bummed that there's no exotic build possible.
DW phase cloth using spells to quickly kill the fodder and then slash the schoolgirls to pieces for example.

Maybe you can try to build 1h mage. Waki of battlecaster + buckler of nimble + cloth (as usual radiant/charge)

[Correct me if i'm wrong]

Still, kinda bummed that there's no exotic build possible

1h mage is fun and exotic. Shouldn't work, but works nonetheless. You might want to try it: find a good elemental (not holy/dark) waki of the battlecaster and a high block buckler of the barrier. Rest phase of the matching element

Seems fun, reminds me of my archmage using a shield in tales of maj'eyal.
That thing was unkillable.
Still, i want to Musashi my way through the hordes.
slashslashshlashyslash

Oh yeah, i got a another question. Intelligence affects amount cured by cure, or affect the penetrating chance of debuff for some reason, or some other hidden mechanic not shown in the wiki ?
Having an intelligence of 0 is no trouble whatsoever for a melee character ? ( On the battlefield at least )