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post May 1 2018, 14:27
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Is the Orbital Friendship Cannon a one-hit kill thing, assuming PFUDOR and without having the perk ?
Is it something like "Always kills trash, reduce bosses to 50%" for example ?
Is it worthless without the perk, and there's value in seeking to get a collection going ?

Would i get enough breathing room to build up my overcharge for the next round, if not to 200, at least to 100 for a FUS RO DAH ?

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post May 1 2018, 14:45
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QUOTE(Enatcon @ May 1 2018, 14:27) *

Is the Orbital Friendship Cannon a one-hit kill thing, assuming PFUDOR and without having the perk ?
Is it something like "Always kills trash, reduce bosses to 50%" for example ?
Is it worthless without the perk, and there's value in seeking to get a collection going ?

Would i get enough breathing room to build up my overcharge for the next round, if not to 200, at least to 100 for a FUS RO DAH ?

Ofc is definitely worth it for melee. Not one hit kill but very close to it. Just buy the ponies, they are cheap. I have many, make me an offer.
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post May 1 2018, 14:52
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 1 2018, 19:07) *

I don't see why would one chose a fiery/arctic willow, since a willow has absolutely no affinity with those two elements.

I'm just curious because the one who holds IW shop seems to use willow staff

QUOTE(Enatcon @ May 1 2018, 20:27) *

Is the Orbital Friendship Cannon a one-hit kill thing, assuming PFUDOR and without having the perk ?
Is it something like "Always kills trash, reduce bosses to 50%" for example ?
Is it worthless without the perk, and there's value in seeking to get a collection going ?

Would i get enough breathing room to build up my overcharge for the next round, if not to 200, at least to 100 for a FUS RO DAH ?

No. There's no 100% guarantee, but it does kill all non-boss ones within more than 90% of the case if you toggle spirit

Reduce boss to 50%? Nope, sometimes it only deals 30% health of bosses.

No. At least more than 99.99% of the players won't be able to get Manehattan Project. Or you mean DDs, they help but OFC is still good for melees without DDs.

If you were referring to Schoolgirl Arenas, yea since you will never one shot two or three full-health bosses. Non-SG Arenas, Nooo very likely you will one shot them. ppl yes if you don't cast during spirit stance.
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post May 1 2018, 14:54
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 1 2018, 14:45) *

Ofc is definitely worth it for melee. Not one hit kill but very close to it. Just buy the ponies, they are cheap. I have many, make me an offer.


Spent all my monies on training, only have 93000 right now.
I got 5 figurines already from loot ( got two in five days, praise Ehekatl-sama ) so that's 16 needed.
The median price seems to be 25k, so that's 400k... Hum. Not a lot indeed.
But too much for making an offer right now.

I should really get around to selling all my magnificent/legendary clutter.

QUOTE(-vincento- @ May 1 2018, 14:52) *

If you were referring to Schoolgirl Arenas, yea since you will never one shot two or three full-health bosses.

Yay, wonderful.

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post May 1 2018, 15:04
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 1 2018, 11:07) *

I don't see why would one chose a fiery/arctic willow, since a willow has absolutely no affinity with those two elements.


It has some affinity as it offers a high amount of deprecating prof that helps with imperil, some ele prof and CR.

The only other alternative with CR is oak of focus, which is much more expensive and harder to come by.


Anyways its a matter of price, since redwood is the best choice.

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post May 1 2018, 15:40
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If you want depr prof, you can, you know... use a CW piece of cloth?
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post May 1 2018, 15:44
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 1 2018, 13:40) *

If you want depr prof, you can, you know... use a CW piece of cloth?


Then you would end up losing more EDB, which would net you worse results.

Though deprecating prof is just a bonus, the most appealing stat is CR.

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post May 1 2018, 16:50
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 1 2018, 21:07) *

I don't see why would one chose a fiery/arctic willow, since a willow has absolutely no affinity with those two elements.

The EBD loss (27.8 at my level or 37.81 fully forged) is worth the CR gain. The amount of imperil casts for a GF run is more than everything else combined, and the only way to reduce that number efficiently is through counter resist, the damage bonus is similar to using infusion with the damage boost very negligible.

Since the 20% overboost proficiency change, you can get achieve 0.65 prof factor with 5 phases pieces (ableit this is w/ redwood) making EBD even less valuable overall. I could see those who have enough DD perks/forge levels try a single piece of curse-weaver.
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post May 1 2018, 18:35
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ May 1 2018, 01:23) *
For arena? I think you can mangage pfudor arena without charged. But you will be faster with each. My end-game cold build was: 3 charged 2 radiants for arena, 4 charged 1 radiant for pffest. And that was very, very fast in non-SG arena.

Barely got through 60 rounds at the cost of a spirit elixir. It only keeps up with melee if I get lucky with riddlemasters. I suppose that's managing, but more than once I had to troll a single monster to refresh the item cooldowns, so this run was super slow. 13.9% cast rate is not enough unless it needs a different element, or more prof or avoidance (0.67 ele, 0.16 dep, 40.1% evade). I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

QUOTE(-vincento- @ May 1 2018, 08:52) *
If you were referring to Schoolgirl Arenas, yea since you will never one shot two or three full-health bosses. Non-SG Arenas, Nooo very likely you will one shot them. ppl yes if you don't cast during spirit stance.

Stanced ofc kills konata and brings the other girls to at least half if they're imperiled or PA'd.

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post May 1 2018, 19:05
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 2 2018, 00:35) *

13.9% cast rate is not enough unless it needs a different element, or more prof or avoidance (0.67 ele, 0.16 dep, 40.1% evade). I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Been playing mage for 2 days. I have 3 charges, 4 spellweavers on staff.
I also need 0~2 health elixirs, 1~3mana elixirs for non-SG Arenas, though spirit elixirs are never needed.
23.1% casting bonus, 48.9%evade with featherweight shard on staff.
For SGs, almost same time less turns, 10mins, 15mins, 22mins respectively.
For non-SGs, 1h(2.95/s)-->dark(1.8~2.0t/s), slightly less time. For a 60 round, 1h=6mins+ dark=4.5mins

Also I wonder if you have issue with mana? Potions and draughts are not enough for me to sustain my mana, I might need a mana elixir every 15~20rounds.
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post May 1 2018, 19:39
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Took me over 9 minutes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Didn't look at t/s.
Mana's no problem with ele @ 85% cost, but that's more from spirit management and increased kill speed giving me more gems. If the spirit bar is almost full I wait for spark to trigger before using a potion, or a full cure if there's no potion to use. I only use normal cures if spirit is at 2/3rds and health is low at the end of a round, or after debuffs. Monsterbation's hp warning is set to 0.15 so I have more control on when spark triggers. I'm only okay with using elixirs on IW so I'm kinda mad I needed one on arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I only use holy for sgs, and only with an aether shard. 93.5% cost, no mana elixirs needed, but I put points in faster drain so I can always have ether theft running. Without a shard I'd have to tap and focus constantly so I never play holy without one.
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post May 1 2018, 19:48
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ May 2 2018, 01:39) *

Monsterbation's hp warning is set to 0.15


I recommand 0.5.
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post May 2 2018, 06:41
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Is there a big downside to forging the block chance on this Legendary Force Shield past Level 5? Is there a big return on forging the PABs up to Level 5? I don't see many other better options in WTS unless I want to spend 1,500 soul fragments to Soulfuse a 400+ shield with maybe 1-1.5% better block.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144680278/ce9fb5ca59



Also, at what point is a Rapier of Slaughter better than a Rapier of Balance? My Rapier of Balance base is +38.51, but the other stats are near the top end for Legendary range; should I be aiming to upgrade if I see a Rapier of Slaughter whose base is +48.51 or something like +45? An option is something like the 2nd link below if I spend 1,200 soul fragments to Soulfuse.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/159401885/f713b08998
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/159220170/8fdc36eba5


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post May 2 2018, 07:07
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ May 2 2018, 11:41) *

Is there a big downside to forging the block chance on this Legendary Force Shield past Level 5? Is there a big return on forging the PABs up to Level 5? I don't see many other better options in WTS unless I want to spend 1,500 soul fragments to Soulfuse a 400+ shield with maybe 1-1.5% better block.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/144680278/ce9fb5ca59
Also, at what point is a Rapier of Slaughter better than a Rapier of Balance? My Rapier of Balance base is +38.51, but the other stats are near the top end for Legendary range; should I be aiming to upgrade if I see a Rapier of Slaughter whose base is +48.51 or something like +45? An option is something like the 2nd link below if I spend 1,200 soul fragments to Soulfuse.

https://hentaiverse.org/equip/159401885/f713b08998
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/159220170/8fdc36eba5
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Shield : i think you have to replace it, block chance is too low

Rapier : slaughter has more damage than balance (that has more attack acc), and the second rapier is not that good and not worth to soulfuse (i think). You should participate in tonight's auction (i guess)

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post May 2 2018, 08:01
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ May 1 2018, 19:48) *
I recommand 0.5.

That's too hish aswell. With 0.5, you keep being stopped for nothing. 0.3 is a good compromise between safety and not healing for nothing.
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post May 2 2018, 09:06
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QUOTE(decondelite @ May 2 2018, 14:01) *

That's too hish aswell. With 0.5, you keep being stopped for nothing. 0.3 is a good compromise between safety and not healing for nothing.


If your Equipments are tough enough or you play with lower Difficulity and so that the Spark of Life is not oft triggered, I think 0.3 can also be OK. If not, with 0.5 it doesn't waste Cure and can save your SP.
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post May 2 2018, 13:24
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I have 2H and heavy amour now, but according to Wiki advice, two 2H/Light or 1H/heavy are the recommended combo, should I change now or just keep going like this?
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post May 2 2018, 13:37
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 2 2018, 14:54) *

I have 2H and heavy amour now, but according to Wiki advice, two 2H/Light or 1H/heavy are the recommended combo, should I change now or just keep going like this?
[pasteboard.co] https://pasteboard.co/HjiYnwF.png
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Heavy Armor doesn't go well with 2 hand because with no evasion and no block you become a sponge for taking damage.
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post May 2 2018, 13:40
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QUOTE(Paff444 @ May 2 2018, 13:37) *

Heavy Armor doesn't go well with 2 hand because with no evasion and no block you become a sponge for taking damage.

so...do you suggest me to change amour or weapon?
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post May 2 2018, 14:08
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QUOTE(rexchen1992 @ May 2 2018, 18:24) *

I have 2H and heavy amour now, but according to Wiki advice, two 2H/Light or 1H/heavy are the recommended combo, should I change now or just keep going like this?
[pasteboard.co] https://pasteboard.co/HjiYnwF.png
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For me, you should change them all (the whole set) because "fine" suffix is an old gear (if i'm correct). You should visit decondelite's auction to search and bid some good weapon/armor. I suggest you to use 1h/shield/heavy for a long term battle before you reach the mage style...

(Correct me if i'm wrong)
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