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post Jan 3 2018, 16:58
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 3 2018, 23:45) *

on an ethereal weapon you already have void to begin with - and it's the reason why somepony prefers to keep it at IW9, so they can have full control on the strikes. the most common option is Ethereal + Holy and Dark infusions.

another option may be to purchase a certain prefix, IW10 it and infuse for the third strike, but less versatile than the previous one.

Oh...I didn't know ethe prefix gives strike too...
Yep you're right IW9 would be much better in ethereal:)

And have a question

mag char/radi vs leg amber(whatever) phase
leg is better??

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post Jan 3 2018, 18:47
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Res doesn't matter when the monsters are dead, and more cast speed means less hits per turn. A high mag can beat a low leg; you have to look at the numbers to make sure. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges_Clothes
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post Jan 3 2018, 22:42
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I'm gonna go for P5S4 tomorrow. Can someone remind me what's the purfect strategy to IW?
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post Jan 3 2018, 22:47
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 3 2018, 21:42) *

I'm gonna go for P5S4 tomorrow. Can someone remind me what's the purfect strategy to IW?


Send it to a good IW service? PM me if needed.



(nah. Soulbound: hell until p2 then Pfudor, unsoulfused: IWBTH until p2, then PF. Start must be pen2. Then only Pen or Spel is allowed of course.)
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post Jan 3 2018, 22:54
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 3 2018, 21:42) *

I'm gonna go for P5S4 tomorrow. Can someone remind me what's the purfect strategy to IW?

On the same Staff you already have P5 S2 E2 on?
Or another?
Anyway, just unlock the first potency with an Hard/Hell run, if one of the wanted go on and unlock the second with an Hard/Hell run, if one of the wanted go on with PFUDOR.
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post Jan 4 2018, 00:06
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Do you need spellweaver 4 to survive the grindfests, or is maybe spellweaver 2 or 3 enough? Since other people prefer archmage and pure offense, I was wondering if maybe a 3-potency penetrator, archmage, spellweaver combination is good. Then it would be a lot easier to get an acceptable item world.
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:01
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jan 4 2018, 04:47) *

Send it to a good IW service? PM me if needed.
(nah. Soulbound: hell until p2 then Pfudor, unsoulfused: IWBTH until p2, then PF. Start must be pen2. Then only Pen or Spel is allowed of course.)



QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 4 2018, 04:54) *

On the same Staff you already have P5 S2 E2 on?
Or another?
Anyway, just unlock the first potency with an Hard/Hell run, if one of the wanted go on and unlock the second with an Hard/Hell run, if one of the wanted go on with PFUDOR.

It's on the soulbound staff. I'm gonna purchase Dark Descent in a few hours and start the RNG shitfest. I hope it won't take 70 reforge.

QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 4 2018, 06:06) *

Do you need spellweaver 4 to survive the grindfests, or is maybe spellweaver 2 or 3 enough? Since other people prefer archmage and pure offense, I was wondering if maybe a 3-potency penetrator, archmage, spellweaver combination is good. Then it would be a lot easier to get an acceptable item world.

I'm having too much difficulty after round 500 so I'm going all out for P5S4
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:07
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 4 2018, 01:01) *

It's on the soulbound staff. I'm gonna purchase Dark Descent in a few hours and start the RNG shitfest. I hope it won't take 70 reforge.

Wew, good luck then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
PS: are you going to start offering free dark descent reforges in your WTS?
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:15
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 4 2018, 08:07) *

Wew, good luck then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
PS: are you going to start offering free dark descent reforges in your WTS?

Yea. Never though I would buy this many perks.

So to sum it up, the strategy is to get P2 in one IW run, then go all out at PFUDOR until I get P5S4. If I see just one cuck potency, reforge?
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:19
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 4 2018, 01:15) *

Yea. Never though I would buy this many perks.

Cool, pretty sure i'll ask you sometimes then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 4 2018, 01:15) *

So to sum it up, the strategy is to get P2 in one IW run, then go all out at PFUDOR until I get P5S4. If I see just one cuck potency, reforge?

Pretty much get P2 or S2, then go on and reforge if you get cuck potencies.
Good luck, you'll need it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:24
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jan 3 2018, 12:06) *

Do you need spellweaver 4 to survive the grindfests, or is maybe spellweaver 2 or 3 enough? Since other people prefer archmage and pure offense, I was wondering if maybe a 3-potency penetrator, archmage, spellweaver combination is good. Then it would be a lot easier to get an acceptable item world.


Spellweaver 4 is good for grindfest but it also depends on what your overall proficiency factor is and your overall cast speed.
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:47
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Jan 3 2018, 22:19) *

Pretty much get P2 or S2

Believe S2 first could lead more probably to S5P4 than the <( ̄︶ ̄)> opposite, no?
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post Jan 4 2018, 02:53
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Jan 4 2018, 01:47) *

Believe S2 first could lead more probably to S5P4 than the <( ̄︶ ̄)> opposite, no?

Well, that's true, but not always.
Not like S5P4 would be bad though imho (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 4 2018, 03:26
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I want to ask about PF DWD clear turns
How many turns took for 1H, DW, Niten, Mage usually ??
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post Jan 4 2018, 03:30
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 3 2018, 15:26) *

I want to ask about PF DWD clear turns
How many turns took for 1H, DW, Niten, Mage usually ??


Mage is like 6k - 25k probably averaging 'not able to complete' lol.
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post Jan 4 2018, 03:35
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jan 4 2018, 01:01) *

I hope it won't take 70 reforge.

It took me 100+ reforges and I think I actually got lucky.
And afaik DJNoni had it worse (Roadshoe may be the record holder of the number of reforges though).

QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Jan 4 2018, 02:30) *

Mage is like 6k - 25k probably averaging 'not able to complete' lol.

Isn't that more for PF?

DWD, considering a good setup is probably 1800-2500 turns for mages (not considering element day), 4000-5500 for DW/1H (a slaughter 1H will probably have a little advantage, but they should be comparable) and I have no idea for Niten or 2H.

But giving a turn estimation is a nightmare since the monsters HP scale with level so, especially for melee, you will get better runs at low levels.

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post Jan 4 2018, 03:40
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 3 2018, 11:10) *

aye. so you have to remove butcher at first with:
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base_ADB = ADB_with_BUT / (1 + 0.02 * BUT_lv)

and then apply the percentile formula.


Based on this formula, and on the data I had written down from my Rapier, I decided to do a reverse calculation to check the rate of increase ("0.02").

Input data:

Original Base ADB = 50,27
Original Base ADB + But 2 = 52,24
Original Base ADB + But 4 = 54,21

Formula:

base_ADB = ADB_with_BUT / (1 + x * BUT_lv)

With But 2:

50,27 = 52,24 / (1 + x*2)
X = 0,01959

With But 4:

50,27 = 54,21 / (1 + x*4)
X = 0,01959

Conclusion:

Each Butcher level adds a bonus of 1,959%, not 2% as it was known.

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I decided to do this test because when I used the formula to check the original Base ADB value, I got different values for each level.

With But 2:

base_ADB = 52,24 / (1 + 0,02*2) = 50,23

With But 4:

base_ADB = 54,21 / (1 + 0,02*4) = 50,19

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Could someone else check this out?
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post Jan 4 2018, 04:08
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jan 3 2018, 22:35) *

I have no idea for Niten or 2H.

like 1k turns more than the other 2
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post Jan 4 2018, 04:13
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QUOTE(paruri @ Jan 4 2018, 02:26) *

I want to ask about PF DWD clear turns
How many turns took for 1H, DW, Niten, Mage usually ??

1H here, just took 5536 turns. Using Vital Strike to help off SGs faster though.
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post Jan 4 2018, 05:04
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I've only found out recently that you kind bind keys to cast spells using the Monsterbation script. I took a look in the script's settings but couldn't understand anything as I don't have any experience about writing one. Sooo, can someone help me here? Please show me an example and I'll probably able to do it on my own.

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