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post Apr 6 2018, 13:17
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Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter

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Is it worth it to change my current rapier (the first) to the second one?
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post Apr 6 2018, 13:26
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Is Shadow Veil any useful to 1H Heavy? Seems like it'd be a waste of Ability Points since the build will have heavy burden and relies on block chance instead of evade.
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post Apr 6 2018, 13:33
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QUOTE(sangerex @ Apr 6 2018, 13:17) *

Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter

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Is it worth it to change my current rapier (the first) to the second one?


Imo yes, it is worth it.

QUOTE(Bedbin @ Apr 6 2018, 13:26) *

Is Shadow Veil any useful to 1H Heavy? Seems like it'd be a waste of Ability Points since the build will have heavy burden and relies on block chance instead of evade.

In the end it is a waste. But at your level i would say it is okay to use it when it allows you to play on a higher Difficulty. So use it for now and when you have reached PFUDOR and notice you no longer need it to survive stop use it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Apr 6 2018, 13:55
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I'll try for a while then, thanks. At worst it only costs 1 soul fragment to reset it, anyway. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Edit: Don't want to make a new post so I'll just edit this, after using CTRL+F in the battle screen my character has started casting spells randomly, mainly Smite and Banishment which I pretty much never use and it's costing me a lot of mana, anyone knows a fix? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) Fixed somehow, though that was pretty weird.

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post Apr 6 2018, 14:09
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QUOTE(Bedbin @ Apr 6 2018, 14:26) *

Is Shadow Veil any useful to 1H Heavy? Seems like it'd be a waste of Ability Points since the build will have heavy burden and relies on block chance instead of evade.

When I do IW, i keep Shadow veil and haste on quickbar, if things get tricky, i use those.
Also when doing arenas I simply go for SoL and Protection @IA (no spirit shield), so when i'm low on spirit in later rounds i prefer going for one duration of SV+H just to stabilise and not waste pots.
I believe even higher levels are using SV+H in late pfest, so i don't think its a waste of AP tbh.

Keep in mind that counterattacks are 75% damage, are capped @3 and don't do elemental strikes (can they crit? idk).
Also only first one gives you overcharge. So both shadow veil and haste don't decrease your damage as much as you might think. Not to mention that haste helps you to keep overwhelming strikes chain going. So if you're up against 7+ monsters and have trouble with surviving imo its reasonable to temporarily trade some damage for survivability. The fact i can use it only when i need to is the best part for me.
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post Apr 6 2018, 14:16
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I believe even higher levels are using SV+H in late pfest, so i don't think its a waste of AP tbh.

They do and they even need to. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) But at least one refuse to use SoL, so i guess this evens it out a bit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 6 2018, 14:33
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QUOTE(sangerex @ Apr 6 2018, 18:17) *

Legendary Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter

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Is it worth it to change my current rapier (the first) to the second one?

Yeah it's worth it, but if you think it's not I'm all in for buying that one, just hope I got enough money for that mmm...

QUOTE(Bedbin @ Apr 6 2018, 18:26) *

Is Shadow Veil any useful to 1H Heavy? Seems like it'd be a waste of Ability Points since the build will have heavy burden and relies on block chance instead of evade.


At your level it's totally worth it to play higher difficulty, I even still use it until now especially for PFest mmm...
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post Apr 6 2018, 15:56
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How much cast speed bonus is recommended for PFFEST, provided mage style of elemental+imp and holy/dark+non-imp?

I am doing some tests for this, especially for dark. I know that for cold, you can PFfests with 4 charged 1 radiant. For dark it's complicated. I'll inform you all later when all tests have been completed
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post Apr 6 2018, 16:54
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 6 2018, 21:56) *

I am doing some tests for this, especially for dark. I know that for cold, you can PFfests with 4 charged 1 radiant. For dark it's complicated. I'll inform you all later when all tests have been completed

I can also confirm that 4C1R can survive a full PFest and is somewhat faster than 5C. But I heal a lot less with 5C. My staff is P4S5 instead of P5S4.
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post Apr 6 2018, 17:03
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 6 2018, 13:56) *

I am doing some tests for this, especially for dark. I know that for cold, you can PFfests with 4 charged 1 radiant. For dark it's complicated. I'll inform you all later when all tests have been completed


QUOTE(as013 @ Apr 6 2018, 14:54) *

I can also confirm that 4C1R can survive a full PFest and is somewhat faster than 5C. But I heal a lot less with 5C. My staff is P4S5 instead of P5S4.


Thx.
Actually I was referring question from here:

QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 2 2018, 06:32) *

At a certain point you'll have a hard time seeing the difference. I think for PFfest:
1. PHOH + 3 Radiant + 2 Charged Cotton
2. PSWD or PTWD + 2 radiants + 2 charged phase + 1 charged cotton
3. PARD or PFRD + 2 radiants + 2 charged phase + 1 charged cotton


I can understand that 2R3C or 1R4C would be safe enough for imp style to defend. But I wonder if more Radiant phase employed for non-imp Holy/Dark can survive deep fest with 1-3 t/round. I guess lots of end game player have similar gear set mentioned above like LHOH+4R1C/3R2C with nearly/fully forged but I don't know if any of them tried it successfully.
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post Apr 6 2018, 17:09
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Last time I say it: Haste and Shadow Veil are not a good idea to play 1H. Use Silence (and maybe Sleep) instead. Not only the results are way better, but it'll also grind your depr prof.
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post Apr 6 2018, 17:19
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Apr 6 2018, 17:03) *

TI wonder if more Radiant phase employed for non-imp Dark can survive deep fest with 1-3 t/round.


That's what I'm trying to find out.

My research and all stats

Conlusion: Dark non-imperil doesn't work that well with my very-good-but-not-without-concessions gear. And all gear is fully forged!

2 Rad, 2 Charged, 1 Peerless plain prefix, Prof factor >1 (see details in GS club): Not safe enough in PFFEST and SLOWER in arena's than imperil style

Fastest PFFEST: IMperil style 3+2, 5 Charged, with lowest damage. Apparently, with DD5 perk I don't need any radiants for more speed. It's all about survival.

How about imperil style, 4+1, with 3 charged, 1 radiant? Works also, but slightly SLOWER! Apparently, I don't need more damage. I can uprgade this build to 4 charged, way more damage than my current 5 charged. But that costs 70m in forging alone. Because, it looks like damage isn't important in Dark mage!

My conclusion? It seems that dark maging, with DD5 is strong enough already and that extra damage only slows it down. And more radiants, more damage, makes me very vulnerable in non-imperil style, and cure slows me down.

Actually, non-imperil style works best in my 5charged build with 0.91 prof factor! And that allows me to play hybrid: 1 or 2 imperils at start of round, then kill rest just non-imperiled.

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post Apr 6 2018, 17:46
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Man, I only now just realized as I geared up to sell my first crystal packs: How do people normally send them? What's the crystal pack meta? Half and half with halved CoD for each? I feel a little silly for not thinking about this before. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 6 2018, 18:01
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Apr 6 2018, 17:46) *

Man, I only now just realized as I geared up to sell my first crystal packs: How do people normally send them? What's the crystal pack meta? Half and half with halved CoD for each? I feel a little silly for not thinking about this before. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Iirc AS prefer it to split the CoD somewhat. While qinkin1979 still did sent them last year every form of crystal in a seperate MM and just set the whole CoD on one MM.
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post Apr 6 2018, 18:30
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Apr 6 2018, 15:19) *

That's what I'm trying to find out.

My research and all stats

Conlusion: Dark non-imperil doesn't work that well with my very-good-but-not-without-concessions gear. And all gear is fully forged!

2 Rad, 2 Charged, 1 Peerless plain prefix, Prof factor >1 (see details in GS club): Not safe enough in PFFEST and SLOWER in arena's than imperil style

Fastest PFFEST: IMperil style 3+2, 5 Charged, with lowest damage. Apparently, with DD5 perk I don't need any radiants for more speed. It's all about survival.

How about imperil style, 4+1, with 3 charged, 1 radiant? Works also, but slightly SLOWER! Apparently, I don't need more damage. I can uprgade this build to 4 charged, way more damage than my current 5 charged. But that costs 70m in forging alone. Because, it looks like damage isn't important in Dark mage!

My conclusion? It seems that dark maging, with DD5 is strong enough already and that extra damage only slows it down. And more radiants, more damage, makes me very vulnerable in non-imperil style, and cure slows me down.

Actually, non-imperil style works best in my 5charged build with 0.91 prof factor! And that allows me to play hybrid: 1 or 2 imperils at start of round, then kill rest just non-imperiled.


Damn don't have GS to access the page..

Great to see your research. Dark non-imp healing is painful but I guess even LHOH with sup prof wouldn't perform much better, unless Holy LHOH can damage a lot more than Dark mage...
I was also thinking whether such hybird imp style works for LHOH, or LHKD may perform even better? I guess no radiant is need for LHKD if so.

Finally I comes up to the level of dying(lost) instantly(wizard) after T3 spell in PFFest 500+ with my shitty fire mage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Time to give it up I guess
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post Apr 6 2018, 18:52
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Damn don't have GS to access the page..

too bad for you, it's where we hold our orgies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Spoiler text - Highlight to read...
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QUOTE(PapaJuk @ Apr 6 2018, 23:46) *

Man, I only now just realized as I geared up to sell my first crystal packs: How do people normally send them? What's the crystal pack meta? Half and half with halved CoD for each? I feel a little silly for not thinking about this before. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

If a pack is 29 for example, I put these price for the 12 types:
3 3 3 3 3 2
2 2 2 2 2 2
Then I send all 12 types at the same time using toolbox, so if you were to buy 1 pack from me, you would get a MM with 10 types, CoD 25k, and a MM with devotion and corruption crystals, CoD 4k. I find it easier to make changes to the price this way. Just remove 1 from the crystal types with price 3 to decrease the price, or add 1 to the types with price 2 to increase.
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Apr 6 2018, 18:30) *

Damn don't have GS to access the page..

Great to see your research. Dark non-imp healing is painful but I guess even LHOH with sup prof wouldn't perform much better, unless Holy LHOH can damage a lot more than Dark mage...
I was also thinking whether such hybird imp style works for LHOH, or LHKD may perform even better? I guess no radiant is need for LHKD if so.

Finally I comes up to the level of dying(lost) instantly(wizard) after T3 spell in PFFest 500+ with my shitty fire mage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Time to give it up I guess


don't forget that holy gives status effect 'breached defence', which is basically a free imperil! So Holy is much better for non-imperil play.

Edit: I've posted all my 4 sets & stats in the "Post your character's stats. Discuss your fighting style" thread so you can access it as well.

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post Apr 6 2018, 19:44
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I can confirm 1. PHOH + 3 Radiant + 2 Charged Cotton. Sp is draining like crazy in later rounds but I can clear it with the lowest turn count.
I do want to try out the cotton robe build if I can.
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post Apr 6 2018, 21:14
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Edit: Don't want to make a new post so I'll just edit this, after using CTRL+F in the battle screen my character has started casting spells randomly, mainly Smite and Banishment which I pretty much never use and it's costing me a lot of mana, anyone knows a fix? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) Fixed somehow, though that was pretty weird.

in the default settings, monsterbation has the holy spell rotation assigned to the ctrl key. if you don't want this to happen again, got to line 112 and change it to
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