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Jul 24 2025, 00:44
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QUOTE(pir3sbruno @ Jul 24 2025, 00:04)  I think trophies will be sold too but you should shrine, and leave 9,999,999 shrine value to get a perless at the beginning of the next season.
I see I see, thank you.
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Jul 24 2025, 03:01
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jakalsito
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QUOTE(pir3sbruno @ Jul 23 2025, 17:04)  I think trophies will be sold too but you should shrine, and leave 9,999,999 shrine value to get a perless at the beginning of the next season.
Wow, I didn't know that. Any other tips on isekai?
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Jul 24 2025, 03:47
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ruting
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Is Niten Ichiryu style benifit from both 2H and DW ability.
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Jul 26 2025, 20:13
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I don't get it, how come lvl 500 players pretty much unanimously prefer charged or mostly charged sets, but are also the ones valuing radiant double if not triple of what they value charged stuff at the auction? Holy gear with its disproportionate MDB benefit aside.
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Jul 27 2025, 09:40
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ruting
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 shall I soulfuse with a magnificent weapon, or I have better to save my soul fragment
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Jul 27 2025, 09:48
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Ramaki
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QUOTE(ruting @ Jul 27 2025, 09:40)   shall I soulfuse with a magnificent weapon, or I have better to save my soul fragment If I were you, I would rent gear until 350. You will be able to play in PFUDOR and slowly drop/buy your own set of equipment. Soulfusing a Magnificent with only two main stats seems like a waste to me. Auto Equip Rental Shop
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Jul 27 2025, 10:09
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Noni
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Jul 26 2025, 20:13)  I don't get it, how come lvl 500 players pretty much unanimously prefer charged or mostly charged sets, but are also the ones valuing radiant double if not triple of what they value charged stuff at the auction? Holy gear with its disproportionate MDB benefit aside.
Not everyone wants to optimize. Radiant works very nicely and it's kinda cool to be able to miss an imperil and the Radiants will still brute-force the monster to death quite fast. Not optimal but verry nice. But main reason: it's just a couple very rich players trying to complete a set.
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Jul 27 2025, 13:48
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Wivers
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Jul 26 2025, 20:13)  I don't get it, how come lvl 500 players pretty much unanimously prefer charged or mostly charged sets, but are also the ones valuing radiant double if not triple of what they value charged stuff at the auction? Holy gear with its disproportionate MDB benefit aside.
For some arenas, especially 'end of Days' to 'Dance with Dragons' I hardly need to heal. So since I don't need casting speed to protect myself More magic damages should be optimal as far as real time clear, since the schoolgirls' health is the bottleneck
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Jul 29 2025, 19:49
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EOZ1
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QUOTE(Noni @ Jul 27 2025, 10:09)  Not everyone wants to optimize. Radiant works very nicely and it's kinda cool to be able to miss an imperil and the Radiants will still brute-force the monster to death quite fast. Not optimal but verry nice.
But main reason: it's just a couple very rich players trying to complete a set.
Sort of related, I have seen an item go for over 200 million in an auction (I wonder what's the all time record), how long would it take to collect that much money for a player who has all the training and all the HV perks? I did some rough calculations, and if you are a catgirl the majority of your income would come from catgirl status, a catgirl level 7 gets an effective income of about 1200000 per day without doing any arenas, when doing arenas you may be able to generate 200 mil in under 150 days. Is this about right? But for a "mere" gold star user it would take much, much longer, I didn't try to calculate it, but it seems it would take years. The income from uploading galleries is not that impressive from my experience, even if you uploaded a lot it wouldn't make much of a difference, but it seems that if you had hundreds or thousands of active torrents it would make a big difference. This post has been edited by EOZ1: Jul 29 2025, 21:10
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Jul 29 2025, 19:51
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EOZ1
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Also, what is the mage's advantage in clear time of Dance with Dragons compared to something like DW? (I believe holy mage deals the most damage, so specifically that one if anyone has a high level holy mage) How many minutes is it?
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Jul 29 2025, 21:11
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Ramaki
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QUOTE(EOZ1 @ Jul 29 2025, 19:49)  Sort of related, I have seen an item go for over 200 million on an auction (I wonder what's the all time record), how long would it take to collect that much money for a player who has all the training and all the HV perks? I did some rough calculations, and if you are a catgirl the majority of your income would come from catgirl status, a catgirl level 7 gets an effective income of about 1200000 per day without doing any arenas, when doing arenas you may be able to generate 200 mil in under 150 days. Is this about right? But for a "mere" gold star user it would take much, much longer, I didn't try to calculate it, but it seems it would take years. The income from uploading galleries is not that impressive from my experience, even if you uploaded a lot it wouldn't make much of a difference, but it seems that if you had hundreds or thousands of active torrents it would make a big difference.
15000000~/month is somewhat reasonable even for a non-donator. That without any notable drops. QUOTE(EOZ1 @ Jul 29 2025, 19:51)  Also, what is the mage's advantage in clear time of Dance with Dragons compared to something like DW? (I believe holy mage deals the most damage, so specifically that one if anyone has a high level holy mage) How many minutes is it?
My Dual-Wield is far from perfect and does "A Dance with Dragons" in 18~ minutes. A somewhat geared Holy Mage should be able to do it comfortably in under 10. There is this threat for further comparisons. Records
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Jul 29 2025, 21:22
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EOZ1
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QUOTE(Ramaki @ Jul 29 2025, 21:11)  15000000~/month is somewhat reasonable even for a non-donator. That without any notable drops. My Dual-Wield is far from perfect and does "A Dance with Dragons" in 18~ minutes. A somewhat geared Holy Mage should be able to do it comfortably in under 10. There is this threat for further comparisons. RecordsI know that thread, but it was difficult to find real time records. Well, that's a big difference. How would you make 500k per day? Torrents? I believe over 300k is possible doing all the arenas, but I'm not sure how would you get to 500k. Edit: Actually that's possible if you add in the money from Isekai. This post has been edited by EOZ1: Jul 29 2025, 21:29
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Jul 29 2025, 21:29
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Ramaki
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QUOTE(EOZ1 @ Jul 29 2025, 21:22)  I know that thread, but it was difficult to find real time records. Well, that's a big difference.
How would you make 500k per day? Torrents? I believe over 300k is possible doing all the arenas, but I'm not sure how would you get to 500k.
HolyDual-WieldApproximately a five minute difference between the top Holy and Dual-Wield. Selling your trophies and scrolls/elixirs/potions/monster items. Unless you have the "Follower of Snowflake" Hath Perk. And the average of some 50k~ drops sold at the auction. This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 29 2025, 21:32
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Jul 29 2025, 21:32
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EOZ1
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QUOTE(Ramaki @ Jul 29 2025, 21:29)  HolyDual-WieldApproximately a five minute difference between the top Holy and Dual-Wield. Selling your trophies. Unless you have the "Follower of Snowflake" Hath Perk. And the average of some 50k~ drops sold at the auction. Ok, but I don't think the cash from legendaries sold at auction would make such a big difference. But actually you are right if you add in the money from Isekai. Sure, if you rolled a few legendaries sold for over a million then it would make a difference, but legendaries are so rare that a few that you will sell for 50-500k probably won't make a big difference.
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Jul 29 2025, 21:51
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Ramaki
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QUOTE(EOZ1 @ Jul 29 2025, 21:32)  Ok, but I don't think the cash from legendaries sold at auction would make such a big difference. But actually you are right if you add in the money from Isekai. Sure, if you rolled a few legendaries sold for over a million then it would make a difference, but legendaries are so rare that a few that you will sell for 50-500k probably won't make a big difference.
Even certain "Magnificent" pieces can sell. Especially low-ish level ones. With training and the level 400 arena you do get a legendary or two a day. It adds up. Selling guidelinesAdditionally, Random Encounters are an excellent source of equipment drops. If you do find the time and willpower to do all 24 of them every day, it is far from insignificant in terms of even just raw credits. This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 29 2025, 22:09
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Jul 29 2025, 22:13
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EOZ1
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QUOTE(Ramaki @ Jul 29 2025, 21:51)  Even certain "Magnificent" pieces can sell. Especially low-ish level ones. With training and the level 400 arena you do get a legendary or two a day. It adds up. Selling guidelinesWell, if you are low enough level to be able to auction magnificents, then it's very unlikely you will have a lot of training, so your income from drops won't be as high. Also, only certain, high-tier magnificents have a chance to sell at an auction, so these are going to be rare. In practice the magnificents that do manage to actually sell and won't be returned are very rare. Now, in Isekai when I was doing all arenas maybe it was possible to get like 1 legendary per 2 days? Or maybe 3? I doubt it would change by that much if I was also doing level 400 arena. I doubt it would be 1 legendary per day, but I'm not completely sure. Also, not all legendaries can sell. But maybe I'm underestimating the number of legendaries that would sell for really high prices. Did you track your income over a number of days and it was 500k?
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Jul 29 2025, 22:27
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Ramaki
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QUOTE(EOZ1 @ Jul 29 2025, 22:13)  Well, if you are low enough level to be able to auction magnificents, then it's very unlikely you will have a lot of training, so your income from drops won't be as high. Also, only certain, high-tier magnificents have a chance to sell at an auction, so these are going to be rare. In practice the magnificents that do manage to actually sell and won't be returned are very rare.
Now, in Isekai when I was doing all arenas maybe it was possible to get like 1 legendary per 2 days? Or maybe 3? I doubt it would change by that much if I was also doing level 400 arena. I doubt it would be 1 legendary per day, but I'm not completely sure. Also, not all legendaries can sell.
But maybe I'm underestimating the number of legendaries that would sell for really high prices. Did you track your income over a number of days and it was 500k?
Magnificent Charged/Radiant Phase and Power of Slaughter. They do drop, occasionally. It is a good idea to keep an eye out for them, that is all. I track nothing. Numbers bad. I care not for them. It was a guesstimate. But an "educated" one. My raw credit income is 300k~/day. Noodly Appendage is 45k. Then another 60k~ from the rest of the trophies. Some consumables. Valuable drops on top of that. I did sell a staff for 15,5m though. And a shield for another 1,05m at the last auction. You can follow the "Legendary drops thread". Some people post there daily. Usually multiple legendaries/day. Although, they are level 500 players with the access to three more T7 drops from the Pony Arena. Legendaries are not nearly as rare as they might appear to you. They are just mostly garbage. Eventually though, you receive something actually worth a pretty penny. And some average "japtem". Which does add to the raw credit income. This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 29 2025, 22:32
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Jul 30 2025, 00:03
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QUOTE(EOZ1 @ Jul 29 2025, 14:49)  how long would it take to collect that much money for a player who has all the training and all the HV perks? I did some rough calculations, and if you are a catgirl the majority of your income would come from catgirl status, a catgirl level 7 gets an effective income of about 1200000 per day without doing any arenas, when doing arenas you may be able to generate 200 mil in under 150 days. Is this about right? But for a "mere" gold star user it would take much, much longer, I didn't try to calculate it, but it seems it would take years.
Considering the costs, making all arena every day and selling what you get like trophies, artifacts and everything else, i got an average of 345K a day (registered everything i won for 2 weeks). With 1 gold star would be: 12 Haths (Confectionaries) + 3 Haths (Gold Star) Energy Drink = 131.000 15 Haths = 42.000 Daily Gold (Gold Star) = 10.000 183.000 x 365 = 66.795.000 Year There's Still 10.000 GP but i don't know how much in credits. About isekai i'm still thinking whether it's worth saving the gold for persistent or risking everything to get valuable items, because i don't have acess Follower of Snowflake in persistent and noodle is much cheaper there. I asked if it was legal to use isekai gold to buy Stars but no one answered. If i can use gold i have now in isekai + persistent could buy silver star. This post has been edited by pir3sbruno: Jul 30 2025, 05:58
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Jul 30 2025, 06:46
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QUOTE(EOZ1 @ Jul 30 2025, 02:51)  Also, what is the mage's advantage in clear time of Dance with Dragons compared to something like DW? (I believe holy mage deals the most damage, so specifically that one if anyone has a high level holy mage) How many minutes is it?
I think I can give you some reference. I made a low budget cold mage set (magnificent armor, DD1) to try the mage and DWD clear time was around 16 minutes, 2.5k - 2.6k turns. Staff was legendary willow of destruction, penetrator 5, MDB forgeed 50.
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