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Welp, clearing 40+ tower floors with niten sure is painful. Turns out my persistent niten build with power armor designed to maximize damage output in high level arenas doesn't work so well in tower. I guess next time I will use 1H.

Is 1H the only viable build for high tower floors or is mage also viable? I suppose a cheesy shadowdancer set build would be good, but that would be very difficult to get I think.

Also, is it normal to have to use weaken/slow and to have to keep using a scroll of swiftness (I suppose scroll of swiftness and slow may be inadvisable with a 1H build) to be able to get through 40+ tower floors? Or is my character particularly weak? My set is unimpressive, magnificent ethereal katana of slaughter and magnificent demonic wakizashi of slaughter, but armor is not ideal. Magnificent ruby power helmet of protection, magnificent cobalt power armor of warding, exquisite power gauntlets of balance, magnificent power leggings of protection, exquisite amber power boots of balance. I have juggernaut on the 3 magnificent armor pieces.

viable styles:
1h + light armor: safest but very very very slow....
1h + heavy armor: safe but very slow....
1h mage: relatively fast but very expensive (consumables + forging)
DW + power of warding: relatively fast but very expensive (forging with a all those metals)
DW + light armor: not so safe, not so fast, but doable if you don't mind dying regularly
full mage: extremely dangerous, but not impossible - and potentially relatively fast
2h / niten: extremely dangerous and slow.

viable styles:
1h + light armor: safest but very very very slow....
1h + heavy armor: safe but very slow....
1h mage: relatively fast but very expensive (consumables + forging)
DW + power of warding: relatively fast but very expensive (forging with a all those metals)
DW + light armor: not so safe, not so fast, but doable if you don't mind dying regularly
full mage: extremely dangerous, but not impossible - and potentially relatively fast
2h / niten: extremely dangerous and slow.

What's the reasoning behind power armor of warding? Isn't warding like the worst suffix? From damage reports it is evident that you take very little damage from magic, so magic mitigation gives very little value.

This post has been edited by EOZ1: Yesterday, 03:04

I got magnificent power boots of protection and got juggernaut on them. Floor 42 took me 38 minutes. I guess niten is not hopeless, Ramaki here took 37 minutes to clear floor 65, the raw damage and hp bonus difference between floors 42 and 65 is 115%, factoring in monster level difference I would reckon monsters are at least 2x as strong. But his gear is much better, he spent much more on upgrades, and he is higher level.

This post has been edited by EOZ1: Yesterday, 07:49

not too much...

we now have isekai mode. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Isekai
for the rest, ED's don't drop from artifacts. And there are cores which do nothing (yet).

I see, I'm just gonna grind again then thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

What's the reasoning behind power armor of warding? Isn't warding like the worst suffix? From damage reports it is evident that you take very little damage from magic, so magic mitigation gives very little value.

I got magnificent power boots of protection and got juggernaut on them. Floor 42 took me 38 minutes. I guess niten is not hopeless, Ramaki here took 37 minutes to clear floor 65, the raw damage and hp bonus difference between floors 42 and 65 is 115%, factoring in monster level difference I would reckon monsters are at least 2x as strong. But his gear is much better, he spent much more on upgrades, and he is higher level.

Assumption. Dual-Wield relies heavily on Parry. You cannot parry a spell. Which is why you might need the additional Magical Mitigation from "of Warding" inside of the higher floors of The Tower.

Perhaps with much better gear. Floor 50, from my failing memory, took me about 20 minutes. Floor 70 was 40.

This post has been edited by Ramaki: Yesterday, 17:22

Assumption. Dual-Wield relies heavily on Parry. You cannot parry a spell. Which is why you might need the additional Magical Mitigation from "of Warding" inside of the higher floors of The Tower.

Perhaps with much better gear. Floor 50, form my failing memory, took me about 20 minutes. Floor 70 was 40.

I just cleared an arena to get some numbers, and I was using niten heavy, no featherweight so I had almost no evade. I had taken 631938 physical damage and 87745 magical damage, meaning that the ratio of magical to physical damage taken was ~0.14, so I take 7.14 times more physical damage than magical damage.

don't 2h/niten rely a lot on fus ro dah as a defensive layer?

don't 2h/niten rely a lot on fus ro dah as a defensive layer?

I would have tried fus ro dah if it was available in Isekai. In persistent it doesn't seem like you really need it, on PFUDOR I'm not taking that much damage in any of the arenas, especially high level ones. I would have considered it in IW on PFUDOR, but IW on PFUDOR is too much hassle with my gear, I would have to use weaken etc., I just go into IW on IWBTH.