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If I Soulfuse and Forge this set of gear, will I be able to clear the 100th floor of The Tower without losing my sanity? If yes, I am assuming that I should prioritise upgrading Block/Parry, Damage, Physical/Magical mitigation, and Stats? (Pretty much everything then : ).)

Otherwise, do I have to eventually switch to a Rapier of Slaughter in order to keep my mind intact? Perhaps replace the shoes with a Legendary pair of Protection/Warding?

Is the shield good enough not to need replacing or should I use my first peerless voucher on a shield?

Apart from that, any and all advices regarding smoother The Tower progression would be much appreciated.

What I am doing right now.
Protection, Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, and Haste are all on Auto-cast. Manually cast Shadow Veil from the ~25th round. Weaken + Imperil from the beginning. Sleep when there are seven or more opponents. Vital Strike in Spirit Stance whenever I have enough Overcharge. Last floor (65th) took me 37 minutes with some mistakes. Voidseeker and Aether.

I know that both Haste and Shadow Veil interfere with Overcharge generation; however, I feel that I am not strong enough to survive without them. Perhaps I am wrong; I have not tried to do The Tower without the two in a while.

Have a nice day everyone!


Here is the above-mentioned equipment.
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of Slaughter
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Cobalt Force Shield of Deflection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Protection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Amber Power Armor of Protection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Zircon Power Gauntlets of Warding
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Jade Power Leggings of Warding
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Mithril Power Boots of Slaughter

This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 2 2025, 15:58

If I Soulfuse and Forge this set of gear, will I be able to clear the 100th floor of The Tower without losing my sanity? If yes, I am assuming that I should prioritise upgrading Block/Parry, Damage, Physical/Magical mitigation, and Stats? (Pretty much everything then : ).)

Otherwise, do I have to eventually switch to a Rapier of Slaughter in order to keep my mind intact? Perhaps replace the shoes with a Legendary pair of Protection/Warding?

Is the shield good enough not to need replacing or should I use my first peerless voucher on a shield?

Apart from that, any and all advices regarding smoother The Tower progression would be much appreciated.

What I am doing right now.
Protection, Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, and Haste are all on Auto-cast. Manually cast Shadow Veil from the ~25th round. Weaken + Imperil from the beginning. Sleep when there are seven or more opponents. Vital Strike in Spirit Stance whenever I have enough Overcharge. Last floor (65th) took me 37 minutes with some mistakes. Voidseeker and Aether.

I know that both Haste and Shadow Veil interfere with Overcharge generation; however, I feel that I am not strong enough to survive without them. Perhaps I am wrong; I have not tried to do The Tower without the two in a while.

Have a nice day everyone!
Here is the above-mentioned equipment.
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of Slaughter
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Cobalt Force Shield of Deflection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Protection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Amber Power Armor of Protection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Zircon Power Gauntlets of Warding
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Jade Power Leggings of Warding
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Mithril Power Boots of Slaughter

You know nothing Ramaki Snow! F65 still soft, after F75 you start need recast some spells, after F80 you can die at casting the first or second spell on high rounds and the odds of dying this way keep increasing on higher floors (spark of life won't save you sometimes). Your spells like sleep will start to fail more and more. After F90 i start using scrolls of protection at last 10 rounds. When you reach F90 you can say you are in HELL. Also IW all gear with juggernaut.

The only tips i have are scrolls on the last 10 rounds or when shit happens also always have at least 1 flower vase to desperate situations. You can also press D do defend.

Your Ranking: 1st

Current Floor: 79 (50 Rounds)

PFUDOR +195%, Monster Level 790

Daily Attempts: 1 / 3

Daily Clears: 1 / 1

This post has been edited by pir3sbruno: Jul 3 2025, 01:28

If I Soulfuse and Forge this set of gear, will I be able to clear the 100th floor of The Tower without losing my sanity? If yes, I am assuming that I should prioritise upgrading Block/Parry, Damage, Physical/Magical mitigation, and Stats? (Pretty much everything then : ).)

Otherwise, do I have to eventually switch to a Rapier of Slaughter in order to keep my mind intact? Perhaps replace the shoes with a Legendary pair of Protection/Warding?

Is the shield good enough not to need replacing or should I use my first peerless voucher on a shield?

Apart from that, any and all advices regarding smoother The Tower progression would be much appreciated.

What I am doing right now.
Protection, Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, and Haste are all on Auto-cast. Manually cast Shadow Veil from the ~25th round. Weaken + Imperil from the beginning. Sleep when there are seven or more opponents. Vital Strike in Spirit Stance whenever I have enough Overcharge. Last floor (65th) took me 37 minutes with some mistakes. Voidseeker and Aether.

I know that both Haste and Shadow Veil interfere with Overcharge generation; however, I feel that I am not strong enough to survive without them. Perhaps I am wrong; I have not tried to do The Tower without the two in a while.

Have a nice day everyone!
Here is the above-mentioned equipment.
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of Slaughter
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Cobalt Force Shield of Deflection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Amber Power Helmet of Protection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Amber Power Armor of Protection
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Zircon Power Gauntlets of Warding
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Legendary Jade Power Leggings of Warding
[alt.hentaiverse.org] Magnificent Mithril Power Boots of Slaughter

Warding is never worth it. Protection is the best, then slaughter (only if you can survive). Also, sleep first
You should use Absorb scroll + silence to avoid magic damage. So you only need to stack physical defence.
However, I had no high-floor exp with 1H melee but only 1H mage . My suggestion might be very limited.

You know nothing Ramaki Snow! F65 still soft, after F75 you start need recast some spells, after F80 you can die at casting the first or second spell on high rounds and the odds of dying this way keep increasing on higher floors (spark of life won't save you sometimes). Your spells like sleep will start to fail more and more. After F90 i start using scrolls of protection at last 10 rounds. When you reach F90 you can say you are in HELL. Also IW all gear with juggernaut.

The only tips i have are scrolls on the last 10 rounds or when shit happens also always have at least 1 flower vase to desperate situations. You can also press D do defend.

Your Ranking: 1st

Current Floor: 79 (50 Rounds)

PFUDOR +195%, Monster Level 790

Daily Attempts: 1 / 3

Daily Clears: 1 / 1

Warding is never worth it. Protection is the best, then slaughter (only if you can survive). Also, sleep first
You should use Absorb scroll + silence to avoid magic damage. So you only need to stack physical defence.
However, I had no high-floor exp with 1H melee but only 1H mage . My suggestion might be very limited.

Thank you for your contributions, gentlemen. Absorb, Protection, and Silence sound great. I was thinking about Featherweights as well. My main concern is the Peerless Voucher. If my current shield is passable, I will use it on a weapon. Unless a Shortsword is useable even on the higher floors, I am going to need a Rapier. The problem with exchanging it for a shield is that it could be (likely will be) worse than my current one. Only a Buckler of The Barrier/Nimble or a Force shield of (almost) any kind would actually be worth forging. Same applies to weapons, obviously, as there are only rapiers and mayhap a club for my Persistent character with very specific suffixes worth considering. A bit of a conundrum I find myself in.

PS: What about Haste and Shadow Veil? Should I be using them in The Tower? On Auto-cast or as scrolls?

This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 3 2025, 12:44

[303416341] Magnificent Tempestuous Rapier of Balance (Lv.194, SDA)
[304094911] Magnificent Fiery Club of the Nimble (Lv.213, SDA)
[284363714] Legendary Fiery Axe of Slaughter (Lv.234, SDA)
[303915068] Magnificent Shocking Wakizashi of Balance (Lv.197, SDA)

Can someone tell me which is the best combination for dual wielding? Should I wait to soulfuse?

[303416341] Magnificent Tempestuous Rapier of Balance (Lv.194, SDA)
[304094911] Magnificent Fiery Club of the Nimble (Lv.213, SDA)
[284363714] Legendary Fiery Axe of Slaughter (Lv.234, SDA)
[303915068] Magnificent Shocking Wakizashi of Balance (Lv.197, SDA)

Can someone tell me which is the best combination for dual wielding? Should I wait to soulfuse?

Club (preferably Ethereal) of Slaughter in your main hand and a Rapier of Balance (offensive) or Nimble (defensive). Out of your options; I would pick the Club and the Rapier. I would wait with Soulfusing though. Perhaps use the services of the Auto-Equip Rental Shop to level up, since there are only a few low level items on the market.

Edit: Auto Equip Rental Shop

This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 3 2025, 11:04

Club (preferably Ethereal) of Slaughter in your main hand and a Rapier of Balance (offensive) or Nimble (defensive). Out of your options; I would pick the Club and the Rapier. I would wait with Soulfusing though. Perhaps use the services of the Auto-Equip Rental Shop to level up, since there are only a few low level items on the market.

Thanks. Can you explain where I find that shop?

Edit. I found it

This post has been edited by frown7220: Jul 3 2025, 11:08

Thank you for your contributions, gentlemen. Absorb, Protection, and Silence sound great. I was thinking about Featherweights as well. My main concern is the Peerless Voucher. If my current shield is passable, I will use it on a weapon. Unless a Shortsword is useable even on the higher floors, I am going to need a Rapier. The problem with exchanging it for a shield is that it could be (likely will be) worse than my current one. Only a Buckler of The Barrier/Nimble or a Force shield of (almost) any kind would actually be worth forging. Same applies to weapons, obviously, as there are only rapiers and mayhap a club for my Persistent character with very specific suffixes worth considering. A bit of a conundrum I find myself in.

PS: What about Haste and Shadow Veil? Should I be using them in The Tower? On Auto-cast or as scrolls?

Honestly, to play in the tower with as little suffering as possible, you should use everything at your disposal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

I only went to the 100th floor once (one year ago). I started using all scrolls just on the 65th floor, because the floor below was a suffering. With this I wasted less time healing, which means less concern. And I kept all the supportive in Auto-Cast.

Regarding the shield, the best solution would be to buy a Legendary, as it would be very risky to use the voucher. Your current shield is better than a Peerless Buckler or Kite Shield.

And regarding upgrades, you can gradually increase as you climb the floors (that's what I did). Focus mainly on: ADB, Block, PMI, DEX, END. Then at: MMI, STR, Crushing, Piercing.

At that time I used a shortsword, but I think if I had a rapier it would be a little better, especially on the highest floors. As you have already done soulfuse in most equipment, I think it's not worth replacing because you would spend many credits having to redo the upgrades. I believe it is possible to go to the end with your current set, without major problems.

And to help reduce suffering, you can start using "Gum + Vase" in the last rounds. In my case, as I did not want to waste much time, I increased the amount used as I felt that things were getting much slower. The only problem is that this method was expensive. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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The "throw enough money at it until it works" solution does have a certain appeal to it, I do agree (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). Jests aside, I would assume that even a legendary force shield with agility instead of endurance would be worse than the current one I am wearing, just much more expensive to forge. Thank you for clearing my doubts; I am going to use the voucher on a weapon. I might swap the "warding" pieces for "protection" eventually, as I have not really invested that much into them. Let the pain begin.

Edit: Thank you, l13763824039, HV Utils highlights the infusion of the day, so that one I have somewhat covered. Appreciate the addendum nonetheless.

This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 4 2025, 09:04

And regarding upgrades, you can gradually increase as you climb the floors (that's what I did). Focus mainly on: ADB, Block, PMI, DEX, END. Then at: MMI, STR, Crushing, Piercing.

You are the first one that i see talking about Crushing and Piercing DMG.

I may be wrong, but i think it's wrong to say that warding is unnecessary because the mobs will be silenced.
Warding is not necessary simply because the magic damage doesn't seem that high at least in my battle reports most of the damage received is Crushing and Piercing.
I believe that this damage that is very high comes from the mobs' skills, so the right thing to say would be that you need to silence the mobs to avoid these crushing and piercing damage skills which in my experience is what causes me deaths and most of the damage received.



This post has been edited by pir3sbruno: Jul 3 2025, 19:51

You are the first one that i see talking about Crushing and Piercing DMG.

I may be wrong, but i think it's wrong to say that warding is unnecessary because the mobs will be silenced.
Warding is not necessary simply because the magic damage doesn't seem that high at least in my battle reports most of the damage received is Crushing and Piercing.
I believe that this damage that is very high comes from the mobs' skills, so the right thing to say would be that you need to silence the mobs to avoid these crushing and piercing damage skills which in my experience is what causes me deaths and most of the damage received.

That's exactly that. I based my answer on battle results. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

The attacks are avoided by Block, Parry and Evade. What passes is first absorbed by PMI (most important defensive attribute). And this difference between physical and magical damage is due to the fact that most monster skills are of the physical type.
( https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Skill_Editor )

Monster Classes: 13
Total Skill Types: 39 (27 Physical; 3 Magical; 9 Physical or Magical)

That's why MMI is not so important.

This post has been edited by Basara Nekki: Jul 4 2025, 01:39

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Forgot to mention 1 more strategy.
You should use the infusion corresponding to the element of the day, though it has only a slight boost to melee.
Also, avoid Friday if you feel hard. Both you and the monsters get weakened on defense.

You are the first one that i see talking about Crushing and Piercing DMG.

I may be wrong, but i think it's wrong to say that warding is unnecessary because the mobs will be silenced.
Warding is not necessary simply because the magic damage doesn't seem that high at least in my battle reports most of the damage received is Crushing and Piercing.
I believe that this damage that is very high comes from the mobs' skills, so the right thing to say would be that you need to silence the mobs to avoid these crushing and piercing damage skills which in my experience is what causes me deaths and most of the damage received.

I dug into this a little bit in my own WTB thread. No actual deconstruction of the phenomena, merely some observations.

Arenas crush/pierce

How do the bleeding damage calculations work when you are using niten? Katana has 30% DOT%, wakizashi has 20% DOT%, does each part of the stack have individual DOT% (so say I hit an enemy 3 times with a wakizashi, each attack procs bleeding wound, and 2 times with a katana, and each attack procs bleeding wound, would then the dot% be averaged and the "effective" DOT% would equal 20%+20%+20%+30%+30%/5?), or does the last (or maybe first?) proc determine the DOT% of the entire stack? (so say I hit an enemy 4 times with a wakizashi, each attack procs bleeding wound, and 1 time with a katana, and it procs bleeding wound, would the DOT% of the entire stack be 30% in this case? Or maybe the first hit determines the DOT%, and it would be 20%?), or maybe it works in some other way?

Second question: If I hit an enemy with katana, and it procs bleeding wound, and offhand with wakizashi, and it procs bleeding wound, which DOT% applies? Is it chosen at random?

This post has been edited by EOZ1: Jul 5 2025, 04:14

How do the bleeding damage calculations work when you are using niten? Katana has 30% DOT%, wakizashi has 20% DOT%, does each part of the stack have individual DOT% (so say I hit an enemy 3 times with a wakizashi, each attack procs bleeding wound, and 2 times with a katana, and each attack procs bleeding wound, would then the dot% be averaged and the "effective" DOT% would equal 20%+20%+20%+30%+30%/5?), or does the last (or maybe first?) proc determine the DOT% of the entire stack? (so say I hit an enemy 4 times with a wakizashi, each attack procs bleeding wound, and 1 time with a katana, and it procs bleeding wound, would the DOT% of the entire stack be 30% in this case? Or maybe the first hit determines the DOT%, and it would be 20%?), or maybe it works in some other way?

Second question: If I hit an enemy with katana, and it procs bleeding wound, and offhand with wakizashi, and it procs bleeding wound, which DOT% applies? Is it chosen at random?

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles

Niten Ichiryu:
While using Niten Ichiryu, both the Dual Wielding and Two-Handed proficiencies partially come into play.
Stat bonuses, bleeding wounds, and offhand strike chance work as they do with DW proficiency.

Dual Wielding:
If the two weapons have the same effect, the proc percentage numbers are combined just like accuracy. The number of ticks are a weighted average with the main hand being 3 times as important as the off hand, while the bleeding damage uses the higher damage from the two weapons.
Let X = the mainhand and Y = the offhand:

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Proc Chance = 1 - (1 - X)(1 - Y)
Proc Duration = X * 0.75 + Y * 0.25

You know nothing Ramaki Snow! F65 still soft, after F75 you start need recast some spells, after F80 you can die at casting the first or second spell on high rounds and the odds of dying this way keep increasing on higher floors (spark of life won't save you sometimes). Your spells like sleep will start to fail more and more. After F90 i start using scrolls of protection at last 10 rounds. When you reach F90 you can say you are in HELL. Also IW all gear with juggernaut.

The only tips i have are scrolls on the last 10 rounds or when shit happens also always have at least 1 flower vase to desperate situations. You can also press D do defend.

Your Ranking: 1st

Current Floor: 79 (50 Rounds)

PFUDOR +195%, Monster Level 790

Daily Attempts: 1 / 3

Daily Clears: 1 / 1

well, that's a bit depressing since i'm aiming for 100 this season.
i knew it was hard but this gives me a better picture.

at least i shaved off my clearing time by 20m when i started using vital strike lol.

lvl 376 with 50% exp, still have to do everything today:

Your Ranking: 129th

Current Floor: 65 (50 Rounds)

PFUDOR +125%, Monster Level 650

Daily Attempts: 0 / 3

Daily Clears: 0 / 1

This post has been edited by Malenk: Jul 6 2025, 12:32

I just came back to the game after like idk... maybe 5 or 6 years. What has changed?

Welp, clearing 40+ tower floors with niten sure is painful. Turns out my persistent niten build with power armor designed to maximize damage output in high level arenas doesn't work so well in tower. I guess next time I will use 1H.

Is 1H the only viable build for high tower floors or is mage also viable? I suppose a cheesy shadowdancer set build would be good, but that would be very difficult to get I think.

Also, is it normal to have to use weaken/slow and to have to keep using a scroll of swiftness (I suppose scroll of swiftness and slow may be inadvisable with a 1H build) to be able to get through 40+ tower floors? Or is my character particularly weak? My set is unimpressive, magnificent ethereal katana of slaughter and magnificent demonic wakizashi of slaughter, but armor is not ideal. Magnificent ruby power helmet of protection, magnificent cobalt power armor of warding, exquisite power gauntlets of balance, magnificent power leggings of protection, exquisite amber power boots of balance. I have juggernaut on the 3 magnificent armor pieces.

This post has been edited by EOZ1: Jul 6 2025, 21:07

I just came back to the game after like idk... maybe 5 or 6 years. What has changed?

not too much...

we now have isekai mode. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Isekai
for the rest, ED's don't drop from artifacts. And there are cores which do nothing (yet).

Welp, clearing 40+ tower floors with niten sure is painful. Turns out my persistent niten build with power armor designed to maximize damage output in high level arenas doesn't work so well in tower. I guess next time I will use 1H.

Is 1H the only viable build for high tower floors or is mage also viable? I suppose a cheesy shadowdancer set build would be good, but that would be very difficult to get I think.

Also, is it normal to have to use weaken/slow and to have to keep using a scroll of swiftness (I suppose scroll of swiftness and slow may be inadvisable with a 1H build) to be able to get through 40+ tower floors? Or is my character particularly weak? My set is unimpressive, magnificent ethereal katana of slaughter and magnificent demonic wakizashi of slaughter, but armor is not ideal. Magnificent ruby power helmet of protection, magnificent cobalt power armor of warding, exquisite power gauntlets of balance, magnificent power leggings of protection, exquisite amber power boots of balance. I have juggernaut on the 3 magnificent armor pieces.

I am far from being an expert on The Tower (which should be evident from the questions I have asked in this very thread myself) as this is my first season, but as of the floor 69 I am "slow-ish-ly" but safely cruising through. I am playing One-Handed melee, and I do use Weaken, Imperil, Silence, and Sleep. I have Haste in one of the Auto-Cast slots; I manually cast Shadow Veil from approximately the 25th round. I use Vital Strike whenever available whether or not that is the "correct" way of progressing through The Tower is a question for the more experienced players out there. My equipment is a lot better than yours; I should mention that.

From my understanding, both One-Handed melee and mage archetypes are viable even for the highest floors.

This post has been edited by Ramaki: Jul 6 2025, 23:12