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Apr 4 2018, 07:07
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lololo16
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QUOTE(VawX @ Apr 4 2018, 01:02)  Hmm... I guess this is near the peak price for the easter prize, time to sell it then mmm...
That was 7 hours ago (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Apr 4 2018, 08:51
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asdfjkl622
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how do you tell what tier a trophy is?
ive heard people talking about tier-7, tier-8 and things like that
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Apr 4 2018, 08:59
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VawX
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QUOTE(asdfjkl622 @ Apr 4 2018, 13:51)  how do you tell what tier a trophy is?
ive heard people talking about tier-7, tier-8 and things like that
Tenbo announce it, as for lower tier trophies probably through data gathering mmm...
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Apr 4 2018, 09:21
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asdfjkl622
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QUOTE(VawX @ Apr 4 2018, 15:59)  Tenbo announce it, as for lower tier trophies probably through data gathering mmm...
i see, thank you
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Apr 4 2018, 16:14
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snapte
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I noticed the advice page on the wiki recommends using rapier/shield/heavy for level 200+. Currently using 2h/light. Is it bad to switch fighting styles/armor, since I would be losing all my proficiency?
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Apr 4 2018, 16:24
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(snapte @ Apr 4 2018, 16:14)  I noticed the advice page on the wiki recommends using rapier/shield/heavy for level 200+. Currently using 2h/light. Is it bad to switch fighting styles/armor, since I would be losing all my proficiency?
But you wouldn not loose any profinciecy. Who told you that? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) And i would suggest, if you have fun with 2H/Light, stay with it and dont change your style. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Apr 4 2018, 16:38
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-vincento-
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QUOTE(snapte @ Apr 4 2018, 22:14)  I noticed the advice page on the wiki recommends using rapier/shield/heavy for level 200+. Currently using 2h/light. Is it bad to switch fighting styles/armor, since I would be losing all my proficiency?
I tell you that there are at least hundreds of players like you switch from 2H to other styles, ppl 1H. So did I. Heavy 1H has higher damage and higher survivability, yet 2H would have a very hard time before lv300 .Don't worry about proficiency because you are just low-level you can catch up very quickly. The question is if you love 2H or you just want the strongest melee style. There are people who just love DW and 2H and they doing fine. Light armors are also cheaper to get. Most players still pick 1H
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Apr 4 2018, 20:06
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(snapte @ Apr 4 2018, 16:14)  I noticed the advice page on the wiki recommends using rapier/shield/heavy for level 200+. Currently using 2h/light. Is it bad to switch fighting styles/armor, since I would be losing all my proficiency?
Currently, 2H is very underpowered/inefficient. Light armor is OK even at higher levels. It is only advised to play Power 1H because it is the most abusive powerful combo. And then for rapier... well let's say that it's the weapon that offers the best combo safety+lazinessfriendly, but frankly you can go with a shortsword or wakizashi instead, you won't lose much. not a club or an axe though, because they fit the 1H playstyle way too bad.
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Apr 5 2018, 01:36
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quitetanky
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Assimilator: yay or nay? Should I grab a few levels of it? And how big of a difference it makes on prof. factor?
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Apr 5 2018, 02:54
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PapaJuk
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Apr 4 2018, 19:36)  Assimilator: yay or nay? Should I grab a few levels of it? And how big of a difference it makes on prof. factor?
I can't seem to find it on the wiki under the proficiency or experience pages, but I seem to recall that your proficiency gain in combat is 4 times the experience you gain as a character. So the additional bits from training- even the first point or two, can put some great increases on. I have three levels trained, and my support prof is sitting at 438- well above my level of 400. I don't think it is necessary to grind out levels on, but even one or two will add up to quite a bit over time and keep your prof healthily above your level. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on the numbers.
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Apr 5 2018, 03:15
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sickentide
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Apr 4 2018, 20:06)  Currently, 2H is very underpowered/inefficient.
i wouldn't go as far as to say that. yes, it's slower than 1H, but then which other melee style isn't? on the plus side, it's much cheaper than 1H to get an endgame set going, not to mention an entry level set where all you need is a decent mace
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Apr 5 2018, 04:27
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hentailover6983
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I know this is pretty basic knowledge on equipment, but I would like to make sure I have everything down.
For equipment, armor and weapons, it is a given that most are either salvaged or sold, to either players or the bazaar. Only ones that are really useful are the Magnificent, Legendary, and Peerless.
Peerless is essentially non-existent because you either have to win the lottery or buy it from someone else, which is expensive.
Legendary are mostly kept, while Magnificent are ones that are again either sold or salvaged for upgrades.
For selling, most special armors get the best amount of credits or other things based on negotiation. Regular armors like plate, leather, and cloth are mostly useful for salvage or for lower selling.
For weapons, it depends on what is being sold and what type of weapon it is. Like a staff as opposed to a rapier.
For possible future dealings or uses, keep all equipment of Magnificent and above. Sell or salvage anything below.
Am I right in this?
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Apr 5 2018, 05:33
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igs88
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Apr 5 2018, 09:27) 
For possible future dealings or uses, keep all equipment of Magnificent and above. Sell or salvage anything below.
I only keep legendary and peerlees though.. But everything else is right i think...
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Apr 5 2018, 06:21
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VawX
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QUOTE(hentailover6983 @ Apr 5 2018, 09:27)  I know this is pretty basic knowledge on equipment, but I would like to make sure I have everything down.
For equipment, armor and weapons, it is a given that most are either salvaged or sold, to either players or the bazaar. Only ones that are really useful are the Magnificent, Legendary, and Peerless.
Peerless is essentially non-existent because you either have to win the lottery or buy it from someone else, which is expensive.
Legendary are mostly kept, while Magnificent are ones that are again either sold or salvaged for upgrades.
For selling, most special armors get the best amount of credits or other things based on negotiation. Regular armors like plate, leather, and cloth are mostly useful for salvage or for lower selling.
For weapons, it depends on what is being sold and what type of weapon it is. Like a staff as opposed to a rapier.
For possible future dealings or uses, keep all equipment of Magnificent and above. Sell or salvage anything below.
Am I right in this?
At your level most magnificent just go straight to bazaar or salvaged, no one want to use magnificent equipment at level 380+ There are also many trash legendary that should just sold straight to bazaar, salvaged, or put in your own shop hoping someone seeking some unusual build. These items are non-shielding plate armor, kite shield, mismatched staff, most 2H weapons, most non-prefered suffix 1H weapon and cloth armor, non-shade leather armor and other that I might not remember. As for Peerless, you can get it from drop, extremely rare, if you even get like 2 in a year it's already pretty good, even the shitty one can go at least 50K for collection value mmm...
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Apr 5 2018, 08:24
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(sickentide @ Apr 5 2018, 03:15)  i wouldn't go as far as to say that. yes, it's slower than 1H, but then which other melee style isn't? on the plus side, it's much cheaper than 1H to get an endgame set going, not to mention an entry level set where all you need is a decent mace
=> Please define "cheaper". Right now, I cannot even survive decently at Nintendo difficulty with 3 Peerless Power and a total of 8-9 forge levels all parts put together, so I cannot imagine it being easy to survive at PFUDOR lvl430 without a ludicrous amount of forging. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that I could finish PFFEST without any forging at that level when playing 1H. And let's assume it's possible anyway. You said "slower": I call that inefficient. You deal less damage, you tank more damage. If you take DW, one does have a higher damage output than 1H, and it's possible to clear things just as fast as 1H, given you evade enough. Face it: 2H is the worst gamestyle to play. Mace or not. I can't talk about Niten, but I can easily imagine it to be almost as pitiful.
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Apr 5 2018, 09:07
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Dead-ed
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Niten is way better than 2h (just because 2h is way worse lol). In berserk style, the key is killing half of the round blazingly fast before the hovering gets interrupted for cure & recover while killing the rest. Get 5 consecutive parries in the beginning, prepare to cure. I believe it's faster than 1h in non-sg arenas with the similar forge condition wihout ofc, use slaughter armor. In pffest, use frd.
About 2h, just set the script to rotate; full cure, potion, & elixirs already. With slight chance to attack if lucky.
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Apr 5 2018, 10:40
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Scremaz
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Allow me to remind both of you that the bloke above completed pf fest with 2h set. Personally I'm interested in hearing his results when these will be available :3
If the build used will be cheap, then it could be considered a somehow viable style. If the build isn't cheap, then a viable niche style.
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Apr 5 2018, 17:15
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Uncle Stu
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Lets say one would have only time to look once per week after his monsterlab. Which training would be more effective? Metabolism 2 for let food last longer or Inspiration 1 for let the moral last longer after the food has gone empty? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Apr 5 2018, 20:06
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 5 2018, 10:40)  Allow me to remind both of you that the bloke above completed pf fest with 2h set. Personally I'm interested in hearing his results when these will be available :3
If the build used will be cheap, then it could be considered a somehow viable style. If the build isn't cheap, then a viable niche style.
Thus why I said "define cheaper". If it really works and isn't far-fetched with a millimeter fine-tuned method (just like that one thing we saw some time ago), then I'm all eyes open.
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Apr 5 2018, 21:10
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sickentide
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for now "cheaper" means shade is cheaper to buy and forge than power and it works. for the possibility of using power armour if that's what you meant, we'll have to wait for results
and what do you mean by "far-fetched with a millimeter fine-tuned method"? it's a matter of picking the right tool for the right job, and i've been getting by with one out of two weapons being quite suboptimal
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