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post Mar 16 2025, 16:33
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QUOTE(beenict @ Mar 16 2025, 14:41) *

yeah i did but i got a better one https://hentaiverse.org/equip/301931942/b5be4d2f67
anyway does anybody buy low level items like these from WTS?
if so what's the price?
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low level players can just make use ot the equipment rental service and get very good equipment pieces for a very small fee (they need to leave a deposit but they will get back 80% of it if they return the item in time).
there are also threads where low level items are being given away for free.
the lvl 135 club you are using now is quite decent, but i don't believe you will ever be able to sell it to another player.

as for the old one, as i told you already, since you bougth it from the equipment shop it can't be traded to other players (near the level you can see "Untradeable" in red), so your best option is to sell it in the equipment shop and get some credits back.
even if it was tradeable, with the free options i already mentioned, nobody would want to buy it anyway.

i suggest you make use yourself of the equipment rental to have a smoother leveling experience:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=273752

for example, at your level, if you are playing 1H you would have a much better experience renting this rapier (IW10 makes a huge difference):

[275378186]Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter、Level:139、Status:Free、Expiry Date:None、Deposit:5000、Holder:
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post Mar 16 2025, 16:42
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 16 2025, 06:33) *

low level players can just make use ot the equipment rental service and get very good equipment pieces for a very small fee (they need to leave a deposit but they will get back 80% of it if they return the item in time).
there are also threads where low level items are being given away for free.
the lvl 135 club you are using now is quite decent, but i don't believe you will ever be able to sell it to another player.

as for the old one, as i told you already, since you bougth it from the equipment shop it can't be traded to other players (near the level you can see "Untradeable" in red), so your best option is to sell it in the equipment shop and get some credits back.
even if it was tradeable, with the free options i already mentioned, nobody would want to buy it anyway.

i suggest you make use yourself of the equipment rental to have a smoother leveling experience:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=273752

for example, at your level, if you are playing 1H you would have a much better experience renting this rapier (IW10 makes a huge difference):

[275378186]Exquisite Rapier of Slaughter、Level:139、Status:Free、Expiry Date:None、Deposit:5000、Holder:


thank you so much
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post Mar 16 2025, 16:44
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i'm currently using dual wield club+rapier should i go with the 1 hand ?
which one is better at my level?
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post Mar 16 2025, 16:58
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i'm currently using dual wield club+rapier should i go with the 1 hand ?
which one is better at my level?

1H with heavy armor (power if possible) is the easiest and safest playstyle that will allow you to play in PFUDOR even at your level and give much better exp and drops.

there are very nice pieces you can rent in that thread that will make you breeze through the levels.
rent a rapier and a shield, force shield as soon as you are high enough in level (the lowest force shield in the rental requires level 158), also rent some power armor.

of course read the rules and return the items in time.

maybe the rental itself will be interested in your level 135 club.

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post Mar 16 2025, 17:18
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 16 2025, 06:58) *

1H with heavy armor (power if possible) is the easiest and safest playstyle that will allow you to play in PFUDOR even at your level and give much better exp and drops.

there are very nice pieces you can rent in that thread that will make you breeze through the levels.
rent a rapier and a shield, force shield as soon as you are high enough in level (the lowest force shield in the rental requires level 158), also rent some power armor.

of course read the rules and return the items in time.

maybe the rental itself will be interested in your level 135 club.

i will look into it.honestly it's gotten too grindy to level up
thank you

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post Mar 16 2025, 17:48
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honestly it's gotten too grindy to level up

HV is very grindy and levels get even slower. Not that much before 300, but around 300 is where leveling starts to seriously slow down. Pushing to higher difficulty increases xp and improves loot. Don't expect to find good stuff regularly even if playing on PF though. Training adept learner, hath perks, stars, and so on will also speed up leveling but it's still going to be a long grind.

At least better gear and some more levels and abilities will make it easier and faster to clear rounds.
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post Mar 17 2025, 02:31
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WTF is Core Winner?

I should focus on IW Butcher, Fatality or Overpower for offhand?

What Counter Parry do?

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post Mar 17 2025, 04:04
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A regular attack can't proc Coalesced Mana at all, only spells and the (unusable) skill Concussive Strike. A regular attack can only proc Ether Tap and only when used on a target that has Coalesced Mana, which then removes the CM.


Got it. It looks like I mistook CM for Ether Tap. Is it RNG whether or not a regular attack proc's ether tap? Or does it always happen as long as the monster doesn't parry or the attack doesn't miss?
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post Mar 17 2025, 04:10
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QUOTE(pir3sbruno @ Mar 17 2025, 00:31) *

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WTF is Core Winner?

I should focus on IW Butcher, Fatality or Overpower for offhand?

What Counter Parry do?


Salvaging equipment grants you cores. (which have currently no use)
If you click in the Lottery on "Do not want", you don't win the first price equipment. Instead, you get the peerless cores you'd get if salvaging the lottery price, plus one core additionally.

Counter-Parry (not to be confused with counter-attack) lowers the monster's chance to parry.

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post Mar 17 2025, 04:57
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Counter-Parry (not to be confused with counter-attack) lowers the monster's chance to parry.


I have 20% counter Parry on Main hand and 16% on off hand and mobs still does alot of parry.

20% for main hand and 16% for off hand or 36% total?

Is there a way better to fight vs parry beside Sleep?

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post Mar 17 2025, 04:57
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Sry double click

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post Mar 17 2025, 13:50
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QUOTE(pir3sbruno @ Mar 17 2025, 02:57) *

I have 20% counter Parry on Main hand and 16% on off hand and mobs still does alot of parry.

20% for main hand and 16% for off hand or 36% total?

Is there a way better to fight vs parry beside Sleep?


No idea what the formula is.

But you could use a weapon (club) which can stun monsters, preventing them from parrying or evading your attacks.
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post Mar 17 2025, 14:39
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I should focus on IW Butcher, Fatality or Overpower for offhand?

What Counter Parry do?

It depends on what style you want to use.
As a Niten Ichiryu off hand, probably O5F4, S5F4, S5O4, but Nimble isn't the suffix for the style.
The only usage scenario that makes practical sense is probably assembling a 1h mage, refer to my signature.
It need a Wakizashi of the Battlecaster/Nimble, a Buckler of the Barrier/Battlecaster, a Robe of the Elementalist, four Radiant Phase.
The only IW attribute needed in this style is B5, it increases the damage of Orbital Friendship Cannon.
I wouldn't recommend anyone else use this style until they know it thoroughly though, even though I think it's the perfect style in HV, especially for poor people without huge deposits.

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post Mar 17 2025, 15:37
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It depends on what style you want to use.


I stopped playing in 2019 then i was too lazy to relearn how to play but finally came back almost 2 months ago because i was curious about isekai mode, i suffered a lot with the pony penalty because i thought only needed to hit 1 pony.

First time playing Isekai, 1H with Heavy Gear. I'm planning to try the same build as you but it seems too late for me now (Lv 355 - Floor 68). Today the tower time went over 60min.

Right now I use DW with Club of balance on main and wakizashi of balance on offhand (persistent).

Best time on DwD Persistent 25min and 21min Isekai, can u tell me best time on DwD u did on persistent and isekai with your battlecaster build? And how much time did u spend on 73 floor?

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post Mar 17 2025, 16:26
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I stopped playing in 2019 then i was too lazy to relearn how to play but finally came back almost 2 months ago because i was curious about isekai mode, i suffered a lot with the pony penalty because i thought only needed to hit 1 pony.

First time playing Isekai, 1H with Heavy Gear. I'm planning to try the same build as you but it seems too late for me now (Lv 355 - Floor 68). Today the tower time went over 60min.

Right now I use DW with Club of balance on main and wakizashi of balance on offhand (persistent).

Best time on DwD Persistent 25min and 21min Isekai, can u tell me best time on DwD u did on persistent and isekai with your battlecaster build? And how much time did u spend on 73 floor?

In the Isekai Arena I use mage to clear 80-90 and battlecaster to clear 60-75, it's to find a balance between the speed of the pass as well as the consumption of medicines.
In the Persistent I use mage to clear all arenas and X15 IW, only x20 IW use battlecaster, which saves me many of scrolls and SP potions.
I clear the 100 round of the Item World with mage taking about 10 minutes, battlecaster 15 minutes.
It took about 40 minutes on Tower floors 50-60, now it's closer to 60 minutes, but I didn't use infusion, and using infusion would probably shorten it to 50 minutes. l13763824039 much faster than me, my operation is too slow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post Mar 17 2025, 18:24
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QUOTE(剑行血间 @ Mar 17 2025, 09:39) *

The only usage scenario that makes practical sense is probably assembling a 1h mage, refer to my signature.
It need a Wakizashi of the Battlecaster/Nimble, a Buckler of the Barrier/Battlecaster, a Robe of the Elementalist, four Radiant Phase.
The only IW attribute needed in this style is B5, it increases the damage of Orbital Friendship Cannon.


I only enchant weapon with day element and use featherweight on all gear for tower but i plan use flower vase and bubble-gum if become hard. From floor 50-65 was like 40-45min but after 65 is inscreasing everyday 2-3minutes. Waiting lv380-390 to equip better gear that i already bought.


Since i already got Peerless wakizashi of the nimble i'll invest on it. Should i look for a wakizashi of the battlecaster for arena only to save potions?

What is B5?

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post Mar 18 2025, 00:48
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And how much time did u spend on 73 floor?

Me took about 40 minutes to clear floors around 73. I always use infusion and net speed is the biggest boost.
Wakizashi of nimble + buckler of battlecaster > Wakizashi of battlecaster+ buckler of barrier in every aspect, mainly mana conservation.
But this set becomes hard after floor 90. You have the same cost of ME+SE as nimble+barrier
You can use Wakizashi of nimble+ buckler of barrier instead after 90FL (15 forge on magnificent nimble is enough). No ME needed if you use aether shard.
Or, wakizashi of battlecaster + force shield. Still, no ME needed with ether drain.
In Persistent, somebody used Wakizashi of battlecaster + buckler of barrierbattlecaster and said it's good.

A trick is that you can play TW minutes before the day of your element and wait until the day of your element.
10%+ boost

Currently, I try wakizashi of nimble + peerless force after FL100 at the day of my element.
It doesn't need any ME after FL100 if you drain mana.

I have tested following set
1, Wakizashi of battlecaster+ buckler of barrier
2, Wakizashi of nimble + buckler of battlecaster
3, wakizashi of battlecaster + force shield
4, Wakizashi of nimble+ buckler of barrier
5, wakizashi of nimble + peerless force
Depending on your goal,
50FL, 2>1>3>>4>5. No, ME SE needed for 123.
100FL, 3≈4>>2>1>5. 34 has significantly higher survivability, 4=1.1x3 but 3 doesn't need ME
100FL+, 5>4>3>>2>1. 5 needs no ME with ether drain + aether shard. All others need no ME with ether drain

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What is B5?

Butcher Lv.5
single potency max level is 5, people repeatedly challenge Item World to get the perfect ?5+?4

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Should i look for a wakizashi of the battlecaster for arena only to save potions?

Not recommended, buying wakizashi of the battlecaster and then forging it will require you to invest over 2m and it may take you over 5 years to recoup the cost from the saved potions, and you'll likely be a mage before that.
Since you already have peerless wakizashi of the nimble, invest in it. Then look for a buckler of battlecaster.
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Butcher Lv.5
single potency max level is 5, people repeatedly challenge Item World to get the perfect ?5+?4
Not recommended, buying wakizashi of the battlecaster and then forging it will require you to invest over 2m and it may take you over 5 years to recoup the cost from the saved potions, and you'll likely be a mage before that.
Since you already have peerless wakizashi of the nimble, invest in it. Then look for a buckler of battlecaster.


Forgot to ask:

1- Which stats should i prioritize?

2- How Theft/Drain works? i have no idea how to use it.

3- Is there a topic teaching how to play that battlecaster build?
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Forgot to ask:

1- Which stats should i prioritize?

2- How Theft/Drain works? i have no idea how to use it.

3- Is there a topic teaching how to play that battlecaster build?

what do you mean with stats? Those EXP-points that you can assign? Not that important just do what you like.
2. It doesn't work, only in tower of isekai, and then only high floors. Then, monsters have a lot of mana, and you can steal it with ether theft from drain. Drain itself doesn't do enough damage.
3. just use offensive spell rotation after imperil all. Use cloth armor for damage. Use shield and parry for defense.
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