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please ask in monsterbation thread.

Oh, I see. Thx! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Is it worth creating a monster in Lab at my current level or would it be a crystal/credit sink?

Is it worth creating a monster in Lab at my current level or would it be a crystal/credit sink?

Just create as many as you can, make their PL to 25-30 to activate and get some gifts. I started to make only 1 at lv.25x and create more at lv.31x. Don't raise them to PL100 or more because that's a big credit sink...

Is it worth creating a monster in Lab at my current level or would it be a crystal/credit sink?

Monsters only start to appear frequently after they reach at least PL1000, which can bring you more material. Below PL1000, there is little difference.
Also monsters start to bring high grade material beyond PL750.
So for your level investing in crystals is quite meaningless. There is barely any difference between PL25 and PL200. Your income from monsters shall be mainly rare materials and binding of slaughters and destructions, which are barely affected by PL.
Yea it's credit sink it takes years to retrieve the actual cost of crystal packs

i'd go with 5-6 or so, whatever a sapling is - but check in wiki for the exact tier.

Exact tier? In the wiki? Please dont make me laught. Because the answer the wiki does give you is "5?" and if that is what you would call a exact answer, i will never ever be able to trust you with something that has something to do with numbers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Don't raise them to PL100 or more because that's a big credit sink...

Oh, so is this now the never ever give your monsters any crystals at all era? Well, at least the never ever soulfuse anything era has ended. I am just not sure, if i like this one more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Thanks for the answers, created 4 and will keep them around PL 25 then, not that I have any crystals left to level them up more even if I wanted to. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Oh, so is this now the never ever give your monsters any crystals at all era? Well, at least the never ever soulfuse anything era has ended. I am just not sure, if i like this one more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

No, it's not like that. Because he said something about credit sink and he's a noob like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) so i have to give an advice like that. And soulfuse is a real hardwork....

(Need more 2k soulfrags...)

I got my first monster above PL 500 without buying a single CP. So, it was no credit sink at all. It is only if you buy CP. And you can get quite a bit crystals without buying even a single CP yourself. All you need is patience. So i would say, when you want to level your monster, concentrade on a single monster. Because everything below PL 500 is just the same, there is no real difference and above 500 the difference cames just from the very low chance to get HG mats as gift. But, it feels good. At least it did for me, when i got my first monster above 100, 200, 300 and so on, i was proud about that. It did not matter, that nothing actually changed. That my income did not increase. All i knew and all i did care about was, that this monster was mine and that i did get it that "big". Because that is what it was for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I got my first monster above PL 500 without buying a single CP. So, it was no credit sink at all. It is only if you buy CP. And you can get quite a bit crystals without buying even a single CP yourself. All you need is patience. So i would say, when you want to level your monster, concentrade on a single monster. Because everything below PL 500 is just the same, there is no real difference and above 500 the difference cames just from the very low chance to get HG mats as gift. But, it feels good. At least it did for me, when i got my first monster above 100, 200, 300 and so on, i was proud about that. It did not matter, that nothing actually changed. That my income did not increase. All i knew and all i did care about was, that this monster was mine and that i did get it that "big". Because that is what it was for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

That's right, a noob player like me (start playing 4-5 months ago) have to be patience. And hoping for CP's price cut... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Oh, so PL500 will give a slight differences in gift.., nice..

That's right, a noob player like me (start playing 4-5 months ago) have to be patience. And hoping for CP's price cut... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

No, a noob player, like i was once too, has just to be patience and wait for the crystals to pile up. And that will change slowly. Crys I dont cost that much, but can increase it so much, just like reaching PFUDOR for all the time. And after that? You only get stronger and get more stuff and crystals. It all takes some time.

Also monsters start to bring high grade material beyond PL600.

Fixed that for you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Still, dropping high grades is certainly not enough of a reason to raise a monster's PL. It's only a meager compensation for the huge amount of credits sinked in it.

This post has been edited by decondelite: Apr 2 2018, 14:58

1h mage works because it has higher t/s. So lower damage, but higher t/s makes it almost same. Up to the point then proper mage has to spend tens of millions on prof/forging and so on, but 1h mage can spend only 1 million for whole set and have only few minutes longer clearspeed. Extremely cheap, extremely easy.

After reading that, I have become very interested in 1H mage. Could someone tell me what type of equipment i should use, how to distribute experience point and strategies?

After reading that, I have become very interested in 1H mage. Could someone tell me what type of equipment i should use, how to distribute experience point and strategies?

I'm interested too. I know it is basically 1h weapon+shield (so no staff) but played light (i.e. with full cotton armour).

Obviously abilities must be slotted accordingly.

But do you use also spell attacks a lot? Do you have to slot archmage or so for elemental attacks?
Do you have to slot both Heartseeker & Arcane Focus ?

Is it only wack-wack with imperil or it has other mechanics to it ?

Exact tier? In the wiki? Please dont make me laught. Because the answer the wiki does give you is "5?" and if that is what you would call a exact answer, i will never ever be able to trust you with something that has something to do with numbers. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Uncle, sorry but I think you got it wrong this time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) What Scre is tellin imo, is that the wiki has the exact tier, so I can compare it with similar trophies. His 5-6 was simply the suggested price, like WTS for 5k or 6k, not the tier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Is it worth creating a monster in Lab at my current level or would it be a crystal/credit sink?

I can tell you that I started to create my first 3 monsters at lv.200 , and I was worried too. I started just the same because I was lucky and Uncle iirc donated me one crystal pack.

Now I have 11 monsters, the first 3 around PL 150 and all the others around PL 50, and I still have about half the pack he gave me.

If you do enough GrindFest, you can almost self-support 10 monsters with the drops there. You just need to do them at low difficulty and flee early before you have to use potions or other buffs.

Easy, frequent and without consume of other resources, that will keep you afloat.

The other option (only if you have really good equip) is to do Arenas at middle-high difficulty to generate good income, then use part of that income to buy a couple packs from time to time.

One pack is just a bit more then one Precursor Artifact, so it's not hard to get by.

Remeber that you are not stuck with your monsters, if you find you cannot support all of them just stop feeding one of them chow and crystals, while keeping the others. So you reduce their number one at a time until you can support easily those that remain.

The slots will always remain ready to host other monsters, when you'll have more resources later, so it's not a loss anyway (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'm interested too. I know it is basically 1h weapon+shield (so no staff) but played light (i.e. with full cotton armour).

Obviously abilities must be slotted accordingly.

But do you use also spell attacks a lot? Do you have to slot archmage or so for elemental attacks?
Do you have to slot both Heartseeker & Arcane Focus ?

Is it only wack-wack with imperil or it has other mechanics to it ?

You use only spell atack. No whacking, and only because of shield block you can use OFC sometimes. It's fun playstyle, mainly because it shouldn't work but it does. And you build up lots of elemental prof.

Uncle, sorry but I think you got it wrong this time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) What Scre is tellin imo, is that the wiki has the exact tier, so I can compare it with similar trophies. His 5-6 was simply the suggested price, like WTS for 5k or 6k, not the tier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

And still the wiki just tells us the tier of it is "5?" and i just have read too often "read the wiki" to ignore this "5?" so for me will the answer to "read the wiki" from now on allways be "5?". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yep, its mostly same as ordinary mage. There are few differences:

1. As mentioned, it can use ofc from time to time.
2. Its better to use 5 phases set without any cloth prof.
3. Better to use elemental style, because holy and dark has only 25 points imperil (and we dont use prof items).

Reason for that is lack of staff which already has quite big amount of damage and prof. So instead 4+1 set we have to use 3+2 for 0,7 prof and dropping even more damage isnt worth. But thats mostly all, playstyle is same as ordinary mage.

Yep, its mostly same as ordinary mage. There are few differences:

1. As mentioned, it can use ofc from time to time.
2. Its better to use 5 phases set without any cloth prof.
3. Better to use elemental style, because holy and dark has only 25 points imperil (and we dont use prof items).

Reason for that is lack of staff which already has quite big amount of damage and prof. So instead 4+1 set we have to use 3+2 for 0,7 prof and dropping even more damage isnt worth. But thats mostly all, playstyle is same as ordinary mage.

Ok, thanks. It's still difficult for me to understand all the implications of what you're saying, I suppose I'll have to dwelve deep in Wiki lore ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

You use only spell atack. No whacking, and only because of shield block you can use OFC sometimes. It's fun playstyle, mainly because it shouldn't work but it does. And you build up lots of elemental prof.

So the main weapon is practically useless ? Or his damage is added to the magical damage strokes, like the phis damage of staff is added to its magical one ?

This post has been edited by mundomuñeca: Apr 2 2018, 17:53

So the main weapon is practically useless ? Or his damage is added to the magical damage strokes, like the phis damage of staff is added to its magical one ?

No, main weapon is gonna be smth like waki of nimble or maybe battlecaster, you only care about parry. You will have low str too, so your main attack gonna be weak anyway. Weapon and shield is just for survivability - you block, parry, stun some enemies with counterattack.

I have a question regarding 1H Mage. Is any piece suitable?
For example, will this be enough:
Legendary Reinforced Buckler of Protection
Legendary Ruby Phase Cap of Mjolnir
Legendary Jade Phase Gloves of Mjolnir
Legendary Amber Phase Robe of Mjolnir
Legendary Jade Phase Pants of Mjolnir
Legendary Cobalt Phase Shoes of Mjolnir