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How much should I spend on a mage set starting off? And which element? Assume Fire or Cold?

Fire or cold are good choices. Wind or elec are also quite possible, but a bit more expensive. Still doable though. Mage is possible with magnificent gear. Needs forging, that's the biggest investment. Spend 10m on forging and you're getting somewhere. Mind you, you can play before that's finished, just need a lot of Weaken, maybe even start round with sleep, maybe silence. Imperil is mandatory, so wail until lv 310.

This post has been edited by Noni: Feb 17 2025, 08:29

I just started playing Isekai, If I earn more than 1m credits this season, 1 million will be transferred to the next Isekai season, I wonder if I don't do anything next Isekai season, will the million be kept until the next, next season?

This post has been edited by lovelywym: Feb 17 2025, 11:21

Is there a guide or information about setting up Hovering (monsterbation) for mage fighting? It seems not obvious how to select spells for hover based attacks while maging!

Fire or cold are good choices.

Why do people recommend Fire Mage when Cold Mage is seemingly better due to Freezing Limbs reducing more damage than Searing Skin?

Can we trade equipment through MM in Isekai? Or is it only possible to trade equipment obtained in Isekai

Is there a guide or information about setting up Hovering (monsterbation) for mage fighting? It seems not obvious how to select spells for hover based attacks while maging!

check the default hoverShiftAction/hoverCtrlAction/hoverAltAction fields, that's the guide for dark/holy/fire mage, copy the one that fit your playstyle to the hover field, or changing the spells name to your target playstyle if none of them fit

Why do people recommend Fire Mage when Cold Mage is seemingly better due to Freezing Limbs reducing more damage than Searing Skin?

I don't think there is really a "better" between cold and fire, if you're rich, then you anyway won't want any of them, and if you're not, then they don't have difference too, the only different is how many you can afford to buy good equipment and forged them

Can we trade equipment through MM in Isekai? Or is it only possible to trade equipment obtained in Isekai

you need to donate to have a star before you can sell things through MM in Isekai

I just started playing Isekai, If I earn more than 1m credits this season, 1 million will be transferred to the next Isekai season, I wonder if I don't do anything next Isekai season, will the million be kept until the next, next season?

Sure. You have 1mil - it will be transfered. Why not?

Why do people recommend Fire Mage when Cold Mage is seemingly better due to Freezing Limbs reducing more damage than Searing Skin?

Because, while difference is here, it is not that big, especially for mage. What important is, what equipment is availble for you. For example, I had peerless fiery willow staff of destruction, so I made mage set around it. Good staff is important. If it were arctic staff, it would be cold mage set.
I don't remember people recommending fire specifically over cold. What people are usually saying is: if you are starting mage, fire OR cold are roughly the same, in terms of investment. Wind and elec would cost you somewhat more, so if you are not sure - see fire/cold. Dark/holy are for rich people.
By the way, as a fire mage I am using electrical shield, not ice shield.

Fire or cold are good choices. Wind or elec are also quite possible, but a bit more expensive. Still doable though. Mage is possible with magnificent gear. Needs forging, that's the biggest investment. Spend 10m on forging and you're getting somewhere. Mind you, you can play before that's finished, just need a lot of Weaken, maybe even start round with sleep, maybe silence. Imperil is mandatory, so wail until lv 310.

Would forging the staff be enough? Theses Phazon mats are outrageously expensive...

Fire or cold are good choices. Wind or elec are also quite possible, but a bit more expensive. Still doable though. Mage is possible with magnificent gear. Needs forging, that's the biggest investment. Spend 10m on forging and you're getting somewhere. Mind you, you can play before that's finished, just need a lot of Weaken, maybe even start round with sleep, maybe silence. Imperil is mandatory, so wail until lv 310.

Well, considering I've spent like, more than 20mil total on my 1H set (half is probably lottery lmao), that seems absolutely doable. Just a month or so of saving up, I guess. And not spending credits on stupid stuff. Speaking of which, it's a bad idea to gamble on good staves in lottery, right?

This post has been edited by Here Come Dat Boi: Feb 17 2025, 23:02

Well, considering I've spent like, more than 20mil total on my 1H set (half is probably lottery lmao), that seems absolutely doable. Just a month or so of saving up, I guess. And not spending credits on stupid stuff. Speaking of which, it's a bad idea to gamble on good staves in lottery, right?

Right. Get a mediocre Legendary or a good magnificent. Staff, chance of winning lottery is very very small. Spend those credits on forging.

Right. Get a mediocre Legendary or a good magnificent. Staff, chance of winning lottery is very very small. Spend those credits on forging.

I've typically been only entering on things I want that have a relatively low number of entries. Like, adding 10k tickets to a 50k pool for a peerless SDE force shield. Speaking of which, even with this I still have trouble clearing PFUDOR Peerless item worlds, with 65% block, ~71% phys/mag mit, 35% parry, +50% HP on gear, ~30-40% all specific mit besides wind (16%), dark and fire (4%), autocast prot, spark, spirit. Should be taking around 5% effective damage but still get sparked once or twice a wave past the halfway point and have to constantly spam heals. Anything I can do to make it more AFK hovering? It's at least better than when I was doing this at lv250. Barely managed to do that once but used like 50k credits of supplies.

Also maybe shouldn't have immediately salvaged my old subpar Magnificent shield, I'm assuming IW potencies on shield don't really matter since they just give ele res?

This post has been edited by Here Come Dat Boi: Feb 18 2025, 00:11

Fire or cold are good choices. Wind or elec are also quite possible, but a bit more expensive. Still doable though. Mage is possible with magnificent gear. Needs forging, that's the biggest investment. Spend 10m on forging and you're getting somewhere. Mind you, you can play before that's finished, just need a lot of Weaken, maybe even start round with sleep, maybe silence. Imperil is mandatory, so wail until lv 310.

Out of curiosity, how much does an effective dark set cost, including forging, and what hath perks are needed? If less than 50mil, I'll consider saving up for it.

This post has been edited by Here Come Dat Boi: Feb 18 2025, 02:02

you need to donate to have a star before you can sell things through MM in Isekai

Thanks and I understand now. So, through MM, I can only sell equipment from Isekai, but I cannot purchase equipment to use in Isekai, right?

And I wonder if we can use Orbital Friendship Cannon in Isekai

Thanks and I understand now. So, through MM, I can only sell equipment from Isekai, but I cannot purchase equipment to use in Isekai, right?

you can buy in Isekai without donate, but can only sell though MM if you have a star. the Persistent equipment can only use in Persistent, and so on Isekai before they transfer to Persistent

And I wonder if we can use Orbital Friendship Cannon in Isekai

no.

...Speaking of which, even with this I still have trouble clearing PFUDOR Peerless item worlds, ...

Also maybe shouldn't have immediately salvaged my old subpar Magnificent shield, I'm assuming IW potencies on shield don't really matter since they just give ele res?

IW peerless item is indeed hard. Even you play 1H melees, without high forge stats, you still can't hover without brain.
But if you really invest that much, it's better to invest on mage.

Some big shots said IW on shield and armor doesn't grant you better experience if you don't have good enough base stats. So, forge more > IW for defense.

Out of curiosity, how much does an effective dark set cost, including forging, and what hath perks are needed? If less than 50mil, I'll consider saving up for it.

[296253544] Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction (Level 494, MDB 47%, EDB 33%, FProf 93% )
[298163989] Legendary Radiant Phase Cap of Fenrir (Level 500, EDB 19%, Evd 88%, MDB 75% )
[299219846] Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Fenrir (Level Soulbound, EDB 49%, Evd 77%, MDB 35% )
[300173666] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Fenrir (Level 383, EDB 4%, Evd 40%, MDB 53% )
[299219341] Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Fenrir (Level Soulbound, EDB 27%, Evd 73%, MDB 13% )
[297450563] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend (Level 500, FProf 64%, Evd 26%, CS 93% )
These cost me about 10m. I haven't forged them. Took me about 3-4 months watching super's auction
If you want something better, 20-30m is the minimum and you have to wait. This can only grant you set with medium roll
Forge could be cheap, or expensive. It's log function. Forging the first 50 >> last 50.
You can do 50 | 30 forge. Or 30 | 20 forge on primary and secondary attributes, 5 for non-important attributes.
Then, you'll need Death and Decay (1000 hath), and it's better to have Evil Enchantress(1000 hath)
50m is enought to be any mage except holy. The main problem is the timr and level you need to find equips.
And I recommend to purchase IW service for your staff (4-5m). 5P4S is a inhuman torture.
Btw, dark and holy are bad for low level player due to prof factor on casting speed and mana conservation.

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Forge cost seems fair for all mage. About 7m to reach decent forge stats. I think 50 | 30 is ok for starter (about 3m)
This is why many people starts with wind and elec.
However, the different between wind/elec and fire/cold are less than 10%. And you can easily find/bid fire/cold set.
If you want to be a mage faster, fire/cold is better.

6m is enough to be a new mage.
Buy legendary staff and prof part, and soulfuse them, forge 50 | 30.
Use Magnificent for 4 phase, don't soulfuse.
You will need scroll for non-SG arena, but still a lot better than melee.
You can swap M with L when you find better one and while forging staff and prof part.
10m can grant you good experience with mage without scroll on arena.
"I've been a mage, and I've been a melee. And I choose to be mage earlier every f*ing time."
Not discrimination on melee, but discrimination on clear time of poor melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

IW peerless item is indeed hard. Even you play 1H melees, without high forge stats, you still can't hover without brain.
But if you really invest that much, it's better to invest on mage.

Some big shots said IW on shield and armor doesn't grant you better experience if you don't have good enough base stats. So, forge more > IW for defense.
[296253544] Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction (Level 494, MDB 47%, EDB 33%, FProf 93% )
[298163989] Legendary Radiant Phase Cap of Fenrir (Level 500, EDB 19%, Evd 88%, MDB 75% )
[299219846] Legendary Radiant Phase Gloves of Fenrir (Level Soulbound, EDB 49%, Evd 77%, MDB 35% )
[300173666] Legendary Radiant Phase Pants of Fenrir (Level 383, EDB 4%, Evd 40%, MDB 53% )
[299219341] Legendary Radiant Phase Shoes of Fenrir (Level Soulbound, EDB 27%, Evd 73%, MDB 13% )
[297450563] Legendary Charged Cotton Robe of the Demon-fiend (Level 500, FProf 64%, Evd 26%, CS 93% )
These cost me about 10m. I haven't forged them. Took me about 3-4 months watching super's auction
If you want something better, 20-30m is the minimum and you have to wait. This can only grant you set with medium roll
Forge could be cheap, or expensive. It's log function. Forging the first 50 >> last 50.
You can do 50 | 30 forge. Or 30 | 20 forge on primary and secondary attributes, 5 for non-important attributes.
Then, you'll need Death and Decay (1000 hath), and it's better to have Evil Enchantress(1000 hath)
50m is enought to be any mage except holy. The main problem is the timr and level you need to find equips.
And I recommend to purchase IW service for your staff (4-5m). 5P4S is a inhuman torture.
Btw, dark and holy are bad for low level player due to prof factor on casting speed and mana conservation.

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Forge cost seems fair for all mage. About 7m to reach decent forge stats. I think 50 | 30 is ok for starter (about 3m)
This is why many people starts with wind and elec.
However, the different between wind/elec and fire/cold are less than 10%. And you can easily find/bid fire/cold set.
If you want to be a mage faster, fire/cold is better.

6m is enough to be a new mage.
Buy legendary staff and prof part, and soulfuse them, forge 50 | 30.
Use Magnificent for 4 phase, don't soulfuse.
You will need scroll for non-SG arena, but still a lot better than melee.
You can swap M with L when you find better one and while forging staff and prof part.
10m can grant you good experience with mage without scroll on arena.
"I've been a mage, and I've been a melee. And I choose to be mage earlier every f*ing time."
Not discrimination on melee, but discrimination on clear time of poor melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Would going with fire/cold mage to start be good then, if I have about 230 proficiency in everything just from dawn of new day? I mean unless I like, pull a really good staff or smth while saving up. Speaking of which, how hard is floor 50 tower to reach? I'm like halfway there and kinda want to gamble for a peerless staff. Harder or easier than PFUDOR peerless IW level 100? Although if I do get a good one, I'm gonna have to IW it myself. Already annoying enough to get juggernaut lv5 on armor, oof.

Also IW on shield only adds +4 to an elemental resist per tier. That's it. No increased block or special shield mods. You just get the mods that you reroll when your armor gets them. Also, 1k hath isn't that much, I already got DD1 for 2k. Like a week or two depending how active I am.

Also the IW issue, I just used protection scroll for the last 10 or 15 rounds. Cost like 1000c per run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Here Come Dat Boi: Feb 18 2025, 06:58

Thanks guys for all your help, I (we) really appreciate it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Question on Mage type?
Since my Int. is almost 40 pts higher than Wis. , should I use exp. pts to raise wisdom to match Int. ?

Effective Primary Stats:
309 strength, 307 dexterity,
569 agility, 355 endurance,
819 intelligence, 781 wisdom

Primary attributes_____________________
Intelligence 436 +3 +380 707,385,438
Wisdom___ 436 +1 +344 707,385,438 <-Add all exp here, until it matches Int. Effective Primary Stats

2nd Question:
Since Effective Proficiency for elemental is 100's higher, can I swap out my 1 equip with ...of the Elementalist for another "of Mjolnir"?

Effective Proficiency
554  elemental
357  divine
358  forbidden
431  deprecating
430  supportive

Thanks in advance for your advice and guidance. :-)

and a friendly reminder that if you have a few millions to spare, then Dæmon Duality I hath perk is better than forging meh mage set

and a friendly reminder that if you have a few millions to spare, then Dæmon Duality I hath perk is better than forging meh mage set

Nice reminder, starting with 2000 Hath for 10%; then 5% increase for 200% increase in cost per 5%. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
So for a mere 170,000 Hath to max out the Increase of attack damage and magic damage by 50%, s