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Nov 15 2024, 09:06
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AnonDarkMage7
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In Isekai I'm currently lv 268. I have two weapons, the one I'm currently using Legendary Arctic Rapier of Balance lv210 and the 2nd one I'm thinking about using Legendary Shocking Rapier of the Nimble lv271. After comparing their stats I'm not sure if i should change my weapon or not. The first weapon has more accuracy (im at 190% with it), 7% more crit chance which is ~4.5% more dps and higher base stats, but I'm nearly 60 levels above it and would have to burn 250 soul fragments to keep it relevant. The other weapon has much higher total parry (low % compared to other nibble thoguh), around the same ADB %, but I wouldn't have to soulbind it, though I would have to salvage the 1st weapon to get my resources back to reforge this one. Which would be the better option? At 4006 ADB atm and can do PFUDOR arenas with no issues as long as i weaken spam first if that info helps.
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Nov 15 2024, 10:30
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folwaR...
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QUOTE(AnonDarkMage7 @ Nov 15 2024, 10:06) In Isekai I'm currently lv 268. I have two weapons, the one I'm currently using Legendary Arctic Rapier of Balance lv210 and the 2nd one I'm thinking about using Legendary Shocking Rapier of the Nimble lv271. After comparing their stats I'm not sure if i should change my weapon or not. The first weapon has more accuracy (im at 190% with it), 7% more crit chance which is ~4.5% more dps and higher base stats, but I'm nearly 60 levels above it and would have to burn 250 soul fragments to keep it relevant. The other weapon has much higher total parry (low % compared to other nibble thoguh), around the same ADB %, but I wouldn't have to soulbind it, though I would have to salvage the 1st weapon to get my resources back to reforge this one. Which would be the better option? At 4006 ADB atm and can do PFUDOR arenas with no issues as long as i weaken spam first if that info helps. I am not quite sure, but I would slightly prefer the nimble. I am also using this weapon Legendary Demonic Rapier of the Nimble. I have no problem clearning PFUDOR arenas and use weaken only in later rounds or IW. I am 291 level and have 5146 ABD, 14k HP, 49.5 % block and 49,9 % parry. I guess we have to fish for rapier/shortsword of slaughter anyway.
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Nov 15 2024, 21:19
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ShadowX4
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Ultimately we're looking for Balance, yea. But that balance rapier being arctic would've made me soulbind that the moment I got it. But since that's not the case now, I would use the nimble one. Parry seems to help out a lot more than you would think, especially early game. I'm 270 and don't even have a Magnificent yet, let alone Legendary, so I'll take what I can get
This post has been edited by ShadowX4: Nov 15 2024, 21:20
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Nov 16 2024, 02:28
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winktransi
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before i waste my ability points, if you for example, are currently using one handed, abilities from dual wielding wont apply regardless of the dual wielding proficiency right?
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Nov 16 2024, 05:55
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(winktransi @ Nov 15 2024, 19:28) before i waste my ability points, if you for example, are currently using one handed, abilities from dual wielding wont apply regardless of the dual wielding proficiency right?
Right. And make sure you slot your abilities
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Nov 17 2024, 18:44
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anhunwen
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What's different about IW10 enchant and infused? My intuition tells me infused can provide higher damage.idk
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Nov 17 2024, 18:48
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(anhunwen @ Nov 17 2024, 18:44) What's different about IW10 enchant and infused? My intuition tells me infused can provide higher damage.idk
They give the same elemental strike but infusion lasts only 15 min per 1.
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Nov 17 2024, 19:23
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anhunwen
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What's different about weapon prefix's elemental damage and infused? Once again,my intuition tells me infused can provide higher damage.
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Nov 17 2024, 20:47
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Noni
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QUOTE(anhunwen @ Nov 17 2024, 18:23) What's different about weapon prefix's elemental damage and infused? Once again,my intuition tells me infused can provide higher damage.
nope. no difference. https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Infusions
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Nov 17 2024, 21:41
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folwaR...
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I've tried to do a bit of math (using info from HV wiki and this forum). There is 210 unique one-hand weapons (unique is defined as combination of prefix-type-suffix). There is about 10 % probability of getting at least one legendary 1H (no matter which combination) from shrining a T7 and about 2 % of shrining a T6. If I'm (hypoteticaly) trying to get a legendary something rapier of slaughter (7 such rapiers of slaughter exist); there is 0,6 % probability getting it from T7 and 0,12 % from T6. In other words, I would get one legendary xxx rapier of slaughter (on average in a long run of shrining) from shrining ~167x T7 or ~833x T6. Under the assumption weapon's stats are generated randomly from an uniform distribution, if I want a useful rapier (higher than 80% attack damage) it would take me to shrine about 833 T7 or 4167 T6 or 208 350 000 pC value in Noodles (50k pC for one). Am I correct? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by folwaR...: Nov 17 2024, 21:47
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Nov 17 2024, 23:11
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Malenk
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Nov 17 2024, 19:41) I've tried to do a bit of math (using info from HV wiki and this forum). There is 210 unique one-hand weapons (unique is defined as combination of prefix-type-suffix). There is about 10 % probability of getting at least one legendary 1H (no matter which combination) from shrining a T7 and about 2 % of shrining a T6. If I'm (hypoteticaly) trying to get a legendary something rapier of slaughter (7 such rapiers of slaughter exist); there is 0,6 % probability getting it from T7 and 0,12 % from T6. In other words, I would get one legendary xxx rapier of slaughter (on average in a long run of shrining) from shrining ~167x T7 or ~833x T6. Under the assumption weapon's stats are generated randomly from an uniform distribution, if I want a useful rapier (higher than 80% attack damage) it would take me to shrine about 833 T7 or 4167 T6 or 208 350 000 pC value in Noodles (50k pC for one). Am I correct? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) i don't believe your method of getting all the possible combinations of mods and bases is correct. my understanding is that the game decides on the weapon type first, and since in the wiki there isn't a rarity tier for weapon bases (unlike armors) i believe the chance is equal for each base. then it will generate the affixes based on what the base can have and the weight of the affixes. so if you shrine a noodly appendage for 1H and get a legendary, you should have 20% chance of it being a rapier. since any prefix will work for you there is only the suffix to account for, and the chance of getting slaughter on a rapier is 30%. so, any legendary 1H you get has a 6% chance of being a rapier of slaughter. the chance for 80%+ ADB is 1/5th of that so 1.2%. if the chance of a legendary is about 10% as you say, the chance of getting it is 0.12%, requiring on average 833 noodly appendages. This post has been edited by Malenk: Nov 17 2024, 23:17
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Nov 18 2024, 11:03
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folwaR...
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I've double checked the results and I think it stands (I am not saying there might not be another problem though). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(Malenk @ Nov 18 2024, 00:11) so if you shrine a noodly appendage for 1H and get a legendary, you should have 20% chance of it being a rapier. since any prefix will work for you there is only the suffix to account for, and the chance of getting slaughter on a rapier is 30%.
so, any legendary 1H you get has a 6% chance of being a rapier of slaughter. the chance for 80%+ ADB is 1/5th of that so 1.2%.
if the chance of a legendary is about 10% as you say, the chance of getting it is 0.12%, requiring on average 833 noodly appendages.
That's right if you shrine a noodle and in fact get a legendary 1H, but there is only 2 % chance for such an event to happen (since noodle is T6), in 98 % times you don't get legendary 1H. This post has been edited by folwaR...: Nov 18 2024, 11:10
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Nov 18 2024, 11:51
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Malenk
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Nov 18 2024, 09:03) I've double checked the results and I think it stands (I am not saying there might not be another problem though). (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) That's right if you shrine a noodle and in fact get a legendary 1H, but there is only 2 % chance for such an event to happen (since noodle is T6), in 98 % times you don't get legendary 1H. oh, i assumed noodly appendage was t7, my bad.
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Nov 18 2024, 13:25
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kafiii
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Is there any script that auto use health/mana draughts?
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Nov 18 2024, 14:04
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FruitSmoothie
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QUOTE(binova25 @ Nov 18 2024, 13:25) Is there any script that auto use health/mana draughts?
Nothing legal anyways, that's against the automation rules.
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Nov 18 2024, 15:12
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ImmortalZypther
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The first post says that you can play on PFUDOR from the beginning, but is that still recommended today for fast leveling? I'm level 37 if that changes anything.
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Nov 18 2024, 15:34
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what_is_name
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it's possible to play PFUDOR in the begin, you can play First Blood in level 1, only for level 1 I think. for Isekai, it's possible to play PFUDOR with DW from about level 100, but I think it would be quite hard for rookie to do that, since you have no experience and few suitable equipment
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Nov 18 2024, 18:30
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Noni
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QUOTE(ImmortalZypther @ Nov 18 2024, 14:12) The first post says that you can play on PFUDOR from the beginning, but is that still recommended today for fast leveling? I'm level 37 if that changes anything.
I'd say more realistic is to start at Hell, and then move to Nintendo after you get a complete 1h set equipped and some proficiency, basic spells etc. PFUDOR is possible at lv 200+ and when you've fully unlocked weaken there is no reason not to play PFUDOR ever again. (edit: well... reason can be that you just want to play casually, of course) This post has been edited by Noni: Nov 18 2024, 18:31
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Nov 18 2024, 23:58
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Melovfemale
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QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 18 2024, 19:30) I'd say more realistic is to start at Hell, and then move to Nintendo after you get a complete 1h set equipped and some proficiency, basic spells etc. PFUDOR is possible at lv 200+ and when you've fully unlocked weaken there is no reason not to play PFUDOR ever again. (edit: well... reason can be that you just want to play casually, of course)
I'd add that I was really unsure about how to start isekai this season myself, and decided to start on Nintendo. I wouldn't personally say I found it difficult enough to the point that I ever considered lowering to Hell. That being said I am somewhat experienced in the game, but I think for future generations, certainly it's worth considering. I could do Nintendo basically right away without even a full set of 1H equipment. Perhaps Hell is more realistic for complete beginners, for sure, but if you've ever got to level 200+ in the persistent mode, I'd say Nintendo won't be a problem.
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Nov 19 2024, 03:10
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sigo8
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QUOTE(Melovfemale @ Nov 18 2024, 14:58) I'd add that I was really unsure about how to start isekai this season myself, and decided to start on Nintendo. I wouldn't personally say I found it difficult enough to the point that I ever considered lowering to Hell. That being said I am somewhat experienced in the game, but I think for future generations, certainly it's worth considering. I could do Nintendo basically right away without even a full set of 1H equipment. Perhaps Hell is more realistic for complete beginners, for sure, but if you've ever got to level 200+ in the persistent mode, I'd say Nintendo won't be a problem.
The cost of dying in an arena on the first day is very high as it locks you out of all future arena for the day. It's just simple not worth the risk to do the first clears on the highest difficultly you can manage.
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