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post Nov 1 2024, 02:55
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A new season of Isekai is starting, and I want to play on PFUDOR during Early Bird so I can maximize drops. However, I find it impossible to play on PFUDOR when I haven't unlocked Spirit Shield and Spark of Life due to being too low level. How do you manage to survive without them until you unlock them?
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post Nov 1 2024, 03:02
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don't show off and start on Nintendo like everyone else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
scroll of life also exist btw
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post Nov 1 2024, 03:25
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The scroll tip is useful, thank you.
I thought the hardcore h-verse players always played on PFUDOR though....
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post Nov 1 2024, 03:26
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QUOTE(ikki. @ Nov 1 2024, 00:49) *

training -> Adept Learner -> max
hath perks -> Thinking Cap -> purchase
hath perks -> Mentats -> purchase
hath perks -> Learning Chip -> purchase
hath perks -> Cybernetic Implants -> purchase
settings -> challenge level -> PFUDOR
arenas -> A Dance with Dragons -> clear every day
arenas -> New Wings -> clear every day
arenas -> To Kill a God -> clear every day
arenas -> Eve of Death -> clear every day
arenas -> Eternal Darkness -> clear every day
arenas -> End of Days -> clear every day
arenas -> The Trio and the Tree -> clear every day
random encounter -> clear as often as you can every day

and ultra boost: gold star(s)


thank you.
i was mostly asking about what content to focus on.
but since i'm already doing what you recommend, arena (starting with high stages) and random encounters at pfudor, i guess i can only focus on increasing the multiplier.

i took the first exp hath perk but i'm not willing to invest more into that branch.
same with gold star, silver will have to do.
i'm raising adept learner, i still had it at lvl 130 for some reason.
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post Nov 1 2024, 03:46
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Nov 1 2024, 04:25) *

I thought the hardcore h-verse players always played on PFUDOR though....

yes, but when it make sense, pfudor won't work if you die
ok, a little trick - it is important to complete the arenas for the first time in order to open the next ones. so on the first day go on Hell/Nintendo for a guaranteed victory, and then you can try PFUDOR, and if you die try next on iwbth and so

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arena (starting with high stages)

not-so-obvious thing about arenas: End of Days or Eternal Darkness have less mobs than Eve of Death for example, so they give less exp despite bigger exp multiplier
so if you don't complete all the arenas, choose wisely)
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post Nov 1 2024, 04:28
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Nov 1 2024, 03:26) *

thank you.
i was mostly asking about what content to focus on.
but since i'm already doing what you recommend, arena (starting with high stages) and random encounters at pfudor, i guess i can only focus on increasing the multiplier.

i took the first exp hath perk but i'm not willing to invest more into that branch.
same with gold star, silver will have to do.
i'm raising adept learner, i still had it at lvl 130 for some reason.


As i'm being here right now:
Keep stamina >60 at all time
Buy Long Gone Before Daylight
Do one grindfest a day with energy drinks.
Any additional grindfest after the first one without Crystarium perks is basically a 100K credits loss. (240k if stamina>60), with that you can do one level a day without stars. (gold star seems OP for exp though)

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post Nov 1 2024, 11:16
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Nov 1 2024, 04:26) *

thank you.
i was mostly asking about what content to focus on.
but since i'm already doing what you recommend, arena (starting with high stages) and random encounters at pfudor, i guess i can only focus on increasing the multiplier.

i took the first exp hath perk but i'm not willing to invest more into that branch.
same with gold star, silver will have to do.
i'm raising adept learner, i still had it at lvl 130 for some reason.


As somebody who had the same idea, let me tell you a few things.

1. The more you play, the more riddles you get, and they get harder. Random encounters make this far worse. Since it's also only one round, I did not find the rather insignificant additional EXP worth the hassle.
2. With Adept Learner at 300, every EXP hath perk, and the forum posting bonus I reckon that it would take at least over 40 days for me to go from 388 to 400 doing all arenas daily. With only a silver star and 1st EXP hath perk your bonus will be 25% smaller, even if you get Adept Learner to 300.
3. You can buy stars using HV credits without spending real money.
4. Gold star is 100% EXP bonus + all the confectioneries (220%, increases by 20% every year since a new cookie is added I believe.) The boost you will get from AL 130 -> 300 is smaller than going from Silver to Gold star, but obviously it costs much less (maybe 4 million vs around 80 million?)

So, for you to go from 350 to 400 training Adept Learner every chance you get and playing all arenas daily? By a rough estimate, I'd say it would take at least 3-4 months.
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post Nov 1 2024, 12:17
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Hello,
I got red stamina 5 days or maybe a week ago, even though I was pretty sure I clicked right answers mostly, now I double check answers but stamina is still red. Can you tell please how long you waited if you ever got it? I saw a post from admin saying its several days but they passed already...
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post Nov 1 2024, 12:30
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I had the penalty for two weeks, only thing you can do is to keep answering the riddle corectly.
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post Nov 1 2024, 17:14
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So how inferior is an [element] Redwood Staff of Destruction to a Fiery/Arctic or Shocking/Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction exactly?

For context, just got a Shocking Redwood Staff of Destruction from a Peerless Voucher. I'm only planning to pivot at level 500 anyway (currently overall mid Frost mage with a Willow), so should I continue fishing for a better staff? Or is the difference between this and "perfect" staffs minimal and I should start saving for Radiant Elec Phase? What's the chance of one of the "perfect" staffs dropping from a voucher anyway?

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post Nov 1 2024, 23:55
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At the start of the new season of Isekai, market is still unavailable.
Because of that, I'm confused to choose sell or salvage.
How to choose?
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post Nov 2 2024, 00:28
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QUOTE(Lelfkgjicod @ Nov 1 2024, 02:28) *

As i'm being here right now:
Keep stamina >60 at all time
Buy Long Gone Before Daylight
Do one grindfest a day with energy drinks.
Any additional grindfest after the first one without Crystarium perks is basically a 100K credits loss. (240k if stamina>60), with that you can do one level a day without stars. (gold star seems OP for exp though)


thank you, but i don't think i will go this route as i don't have so much uninterrupted play time available most days. i would need to keep the grindfest going for many hours and miss out on a lot of random encounters.
i would also need to give up on several arenas to fit a grindfest in my playtime.


QUOTE(wanko_wanko @ Nov 1 2024, 09:16) *

As somebody who had the same idea, let me tell you a few things.

1. The more you play, the more riddles you get, and they get harder. Random encounters make this far worse. Since it's also only one round, I did not find the rather insignificant additional EXP worth the hassle.
2. With Adept Learner at 300, every EXP hath perk, and the forum posting bonus I reckon that it would take at least over 40 days for me to go from 388 to 400 doing all arenas daily. With only a silver star and 1st EXP hath perk your bonus will be 25% smaller, even if you get Adept Learner to 300.
3. You can buy stars using HV credits without spending real money.
4. Gold star is 100% EXP bonus + all the confectioneries (220%, increases by 20% every year since a new cookie is added I believe.) The boost you will get from AL 130 -> 300 is smaller than going from Silver to Gold star, but obviously it costs much less (maybe 4 million vs around 80 million?)

So, for you to go from 350 to 400 training Adept Learner every chance you get and playing all arenas daily? By a rough estimate, I'd say it would take at least 3-4 months.


thank you for the advice.

damn, 40 days for 388-400? i assume the exp needed for each level ramps up quickly.

i've noticed that the riddles have gotten harder, but i can still identify them most of the times.
when i can't i just select the ones i'm sure of, since getting one wrong is much worse than missing one.

i completely disagree on random encounters, they give tons of exp for the short time they take and also very good loot (got several legendaries from random encounters).

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post Nov 2 2024, 00:45
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Nov 1 2024, 16:14) *
What's the chance of one of the "perfect" staffs dropping from a voucher anyway?


So, first let's see, what a "perfect" staff is: That means matching prefix, type and suffix.

These would be:
Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall
Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction
Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction
Arctic Redwood Staff of Destruction
Shocking Willow Staff of Destruction
Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction

Everything according to the wiki:
Staff type is the easiest, that's 25% for any type.
Prefix is 15% chance for any of the 4 basic elements and 10% chance each for holy/dark.
Suffix chance depends on staff type. Chance for Heimdall on oak is 33,33%. Destruction on willow is 33,33% too, destruction on redwood is 20%.

That makes:
HOSoH/DWSoD: 0,83% each
FRSoD/ARSoD: 0,75% each
SWSoD/TWSoD: 1,25% each

If you don't care which of them you get, cou could add the chances together and have a total 5,66% chance of getting "any" perfect staff per roll.
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post Nov 2 2024, 02:42
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QUOTE(Nicosai @ Nov 2 2024, 01:45) *

That makes:
HOSoH/DWSoD: 0,83% each
FRSoD/ARSoD: 0,75% each
SWSoD/TWSoD: 1,25% each

If you don't care which of them you get, you could add the chances together and have a total 5,66% chance of getting "any" perfect staff per roll.


Huh, that's actually not too bad. Although the guide says Fiery/Arctic Willow is pretty much on the same level as a corresponding Redwood. So it ups or lowers chances depending on whether the player considers the slower clears for cheaper clothes trade off with Fire and Frost staffs. Thanks!
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post Nov 2 2024, 03:50
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i am just mashing clicks on enemies in grindfest until i die
am i playing this correctly or am i supposed to use some fancy skills or play more tatically?
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post Nov 2 2024, 07:25
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Haven't done Isekai in a while, doing one-handed style using the monsterbation script, hit lv 85 and my hover action started casting dark spells, went to change it but I cant seem to get hover action to go back to just using normal attacks, I tried "Nothing" and 'Nothing' not sure what's the right syn-text.

EDdit: nvm just figured out that is just Nothing without it being in " or ' , kinda wish that was a bit more clear.

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post Nov 2 2024, 07:57
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QUOTE(winktransi @ Nov 2 2024, 03:50) *

i am just mashing clicks on enemies in grindfest until i die
am i playing this correctly or am i supposed to use some fancy skills or play more tatically?

My child, download https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211039 and your eyes will be opened, lol.

Monsterbation is pretty much mandatory imo, I can't imagine playing without it anymore. Main benefit is allowing you to attack enemies just by hovering on them, so you kill your fingers/wrist much less during repeated play. It can also allow you to use a bunch of hotkeys, as well as a bunch of other combat improvements. it just pretty much makes combat more convenient overall.

1hand fighting is mostly just hovering/attacking enemies at low levels. Until you get Weaken/Imperil that can debuff enemies, it's pretty much that simple. Only other thing is once your spirit is high enough, you can start spirit channeling and using spirit draughts for a 100% physical damage boost. It's kind of a pain to keep toggling on and off until your spirit regen is high enough to keep it on 24/7 pretty easily without chugging spirit draughts (Draughts can be kinda expensive). Of course there are buffs as well, autocasting Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Shadow Veil, and Protection once you get them from settings helps. You'll also want to keep up Regen, Heartseeker, and health/mana draughts all the time.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Battle_Modes can explain some stuff in more detail.

HV Utils is also pretty awesome

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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Nov 2 2024, 07:57) *

My child, download https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=211039 and your eyes will be opened, lol.

Monsterbation is pretty much mandatory imo, I can't imagine playing without it anymore. Main benefit is allowing you to attack enemies just by hovering on them, so you kill your fingers/wrist much less during repeated play. It can also allow you to use a bunch of hotkeys, as well as a bunch of other combat improvements. it just pretty much makes combat more convenient overall.

1hand fighting is mostly just hovering/attacking enemies at low levels. Until you get Weaken/Imperil that can debuff enemies, it's pretty much that simple. Only other thing is once your spirit is high enough, you can start spirit channeling and using spirit draughts for a 100% physical damage boost. It's kind of a pain to keep toggling on and off until your spirit regen is high enough to keep it on 24/7 pretty easily without chugging spirit draughts (Draughts can be kinda expensive). Of course there are buffs as well, autocasting Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Shadow Veil, and Protection once you get them from settings helps. You'll also want to keep up Regen, Heartseeker, and health/mana draughts all the time.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Battle_Modes can explain some stuff in more detail.

HV Utils is also pretty awesome


omg ty
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post Nov 2 2024, 10:09
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also, do arena fights and random encounters before bothering with Grindfest (there are new RE every 30minutes, "HV Utils" makes them easier to do, since you get a timer)
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post Nov 2 2024, 15:45
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Using this staff (from isekai Peerless voucher):
Peerless Arctic Willow Staff of Destruction

Theoretically given armor pieces of similar quality, which would be faster to clear schoolgirl arenas? (what route should I take?),
cold mage or dark mage?
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