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Oct 16 2024, 13:33
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KTZ
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Don't judge me but I only just found out about the Auto-sell function for the first time. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) Are the auto-sell prices the same than if you were to manually go to the equipment bazaar and sell them there?
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Oct 16 2024, 15:33
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Ser6IjVolk
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Oct 15 2024, 08:35) I believe your calculation is wrong. Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall has about 1100 MDB 192 EDB when maxed. Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction has about 1900MDB 113EDB when maxed. Holy has about 800 less MDB but about 80 more EDB. This can't make 33% difference since other stats should the same. BTW, holy's debuff is better. It removes monster's magic mitigation by 10 You're forgetting that the final calculation has EDB from clothes and Infusion included. Which is about an extra 200 EDB for Holy and Dark. So: Holy: 1100 x (192 + 200) + 1100 = 432 300 Dark: 1900 x (113 + 200) + 1900 = 596 600 It's not 33%, but I was more or less eyeballing it and got around a one third of a difference. Didn't consider the de-buff, so that's part of it. What I missed is that the staff MDB is actually less than half of total MDB. 2500 or so comes from abilities and stats. So: Holy: 3600 x (192 + 200) + 3600 = 1 414 800 Dark: 4300 x (113 + 200) + 4300 = 1 350 200 Making Holy superior. Sloppy calculations, but I didn't do it for numbers, just to get a general understanding.
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Oct 16 2024, 16:02
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Pekpuu
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Oct 16 2024, 16:33) You're forgetting that the final calculation has EDB from clothes and Infusion included. Which is about an extra 200 EDB for Holy and Dark. So: Holy: 1100 x (192 + 200) + 1100 = 432 300 Dark: 1900 x (113 + 200) + 1900 = 596 600
It's not 33%, but I was more or less eyeballing it and got around a one third of a difference. Didn't consider the de-buff, so that's part of it. What I missed is that the staff MDB is actually less than half of total MDB. 2500 or so comes from abilities and stats. So: Holy: 3600 x (192 + 200) + 3600 = 1 414 800 Dark: 4300 x (113 + 200) + 4300 = 1 350 200 Making Holy superior. Sloppy calculations, but I didn't do it for numbers, just to get a general understanding.
Assuming you're calculating mdb*edb as the "damage" edb is a bonus not the multiplier. I assume you meant to adjust for this by adding the mdb at the end but you're off by a factor of 100 because you didn't use edb as a percentage. In this calculation dark would be ever so slightly superior, but it ignores the elemental effect of holy. 3600*(1.92+2+1)=17712 4300*(1.13+2+1)=17759
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Oct 16 2024, 18:05
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Noni
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QUOTE(KTZ @ Oct 16 2024, 13:33) Don't judge me but I only just found out about the Auto-sell function for the first time. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif) Are the auto-sell prices the same than if you were to manually go to the equipment bazaar and sell them there? yes auto-sell give same price as selling one-by-one.
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Oct 17 2024, 02:21
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Gomez Addams
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Hi, QUOTE(jantch @ Oct 16 2024, 05:04) It looks like you salvaged that robe, so only you can buy it back, and at a high price. I can see it in your link, but not in the shop.
If someone salvages something, they can buy it back from the shop for 24 hours. The buyback cost is 5 times the normal buy cost or 10k credits, whichever is higher.
MY BAD! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I auto sold it without knowing… I already somewhere read about buying back equipment, but I didn't remember the 10,000 C capping AND I didn't imagine that other players could not see equipment sold by me. thank you gomez
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Oct 17 2024, 02:36
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jantch
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QUOTE(Gomez Addams @ Oct 16 2024, 20:21) Hi, MY BAD! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I auto sold it without knowing… I already somewhere read about buying back equipment, but I didn't remember the 10,000 C capping AND I didn't imagine that other players could not see equipment sold by me. thank you gomez They can see equipment sold be you. That restriction, and the high price, only applies to equipment salvaged by you.
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Oct 17 2024, 10:34
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Ser6IjVolk
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QUOTE(Pekpuu @ Oct 16 2024, 17:02) Assuming you're calculating mdb*edb as the "damage" edb is a bonus not the multiplier. I assume you meant to adjust for this by adding the mdb at the end but you're off by a factor of 100 because you didn't use edb as a percentage. In this calculation dark would be ever so slightly superior, but it ignores the elemental effect of holy.
3600*(1.92+2+1)=17712 4300*(1.13+2+1)=17759
LOL, thanks. Yeah, I really should have paid more attention to what I was doing. But like I said, most of the numbers are only in the neighborhood of what they are supposed to be anyway, so it's not like anything precise could have been the result of those calculations to begin with. It was just to visualize how the end magic damage output accumulates for either element. Adding Radiant Phase MDB to the equation would make Holy the clear winner still.
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Oct 17 2024, 11:44
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folwaR...
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Can I transfer equips I don't want to see (but still might want to use in the future) into the storage? It says 0 / 0, I don't know if it means infinite space or that the equipment will fall somewhere in the void.
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Oct 17 2024, 12:45
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Aman thull
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 17 2024, 12:44) Can I transfer equips I don't want to see (but still might want to use in the future) into the storage? It says 0 / 0, I don't know if it means infinite space or that the equipment will fall somewhere in the void.
Yeah, that's exactly what the storage is for. (keeping your miscellaneous equipments or ones not in use out of sight and safe from harm (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ). It's better to keep everything in storage or lock them to avoid accidentally selling or salvaging . As for storage limits : in Isekai You have 1000 storage limit (in storage) and 200 equipment slots (out of storage) ===> 1200 Total In persistent you have 0 storage (in) and 1000 slot (out) ===> 1000 limit [putting equipment in storage counts from your slot limits] You can buy hath perks (hoarder) to increase your persistent storage limit. That's what I know, hope it's not wrong. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 17 2024, 15:48
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what_is_name
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 17 2024, 17:44) Can I transfer equips I don't want to see (but still might want to use in the future) into the storage? It says 0 / 0, I don't know if it means infinite space or that the equipment will fall somewhere in the void.
you can transfer more equips than the slots you have into the storage, it just cost your normal equips slots. for example: you have 500 total equips, and you transfer 50 of them into your 0 / 0 storage slot, after that your inventory will show: Equip Slots: 450 + 50 / 1000 , Storage Slots: 50 / 0also you can do that reverse, for example, you have 1000 equips in storage and 1000 equips in normal slot, you can transfer all equips outside then you will have Equip Slot: 2000 / 1000. you just can't get any more drops before you clean them
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Oct 18 2024, 06:56
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polisperic
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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Oct 15 2024, 09:56) Probably not. People with stars can transfer items, people without can't. So the starred players have already transferred most of their profitable items and already have a shit ton of money anyways from passive login income/items. F2P will be less likely to get high level in Isekai or farm much in it since items can't be transferred and finding an OP item they can't transfer could lead to suffering. I'd say at most some of the mid leveled players might get around 0.5-2m, and they'll use that to buy upgrades or new gear. Probably not a significant increase anywhere, though some people might "splurge" a bit suddenly getting extra money.
If you have a star, can you transfer equipment from Isekai to Persistent without having to Soulfuse and wait until the end of the season? I thought that stars only let you attach items/equipment to Isekai MoogleMail to send them to only other Isekai players. This post has been edited by polisperic: Oct 18 2024, 06:59
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Oct 18 2024, 07:34
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Oct 18 2024, 00:56) If you have a star, can you transfer equipment from Isekai to Persistent without having to Soulfuse and wait until the end of the season? I thought that stars only let you attach items/equipment to Isekai MoogleMail to send them to only other Isekai players.
You can't, unless it's peerless. And you don't need a star for bringing tradeable peerless to persistent ISK rewardsNot sure will untradeable peerless be transferred to persistent.
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Oct 18 2024, 07:41
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Noni
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Oct 18 2024, 07:34) You can't, unless it's peerless. And you don't need a star for bringing tradeable peerless to persistent ISK rewardsNot sure will untradeable peerless be transferred to persistent. slight correction: all peerless, tradable or not tradable, will be transferred to persistent at the end of season. All. And when transferred, they all will become untradable, including those that were tradable in isikai.
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Oct 18 2024, 07:50
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 18 2024, 01:41) slight correction: all peerless, tradable or not tradable, will be transferred to persistent at the end of season. All. And when transferred, they all will become untradable, including those that were tradable in isikai.
That's a good news. I can save a ton of ISK credit now XD
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Oct 20 2024, 17:59
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gbyakko
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I am running a 1H Heavy build- should I be using Haste/Shadow Veil?
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Oct 20 2024, 18:52
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LogJammin
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QUOTE(gbyakko @ Oct 20 2024, 10:59) I am running a 1H Heavy build- should I be using Haste/Shadow Veil?
If you have to heal a lot, sure. If you forge enough (particularly block+parry) and with a full legendary set, you should be able to play comfortably without them. Ideally, you want monsters to hit you so that you can get counter-attacks (extra damage, extra overcharge generation), but Haste and Shadow Veil work against that.
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Oct 20 2024, 21:10
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gbyakko
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Thank you for the explanation!
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Oct 20 2024, 22:15
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Wivers
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Oct 20 2024, 18:52) If you have to heal a lot, sure. If you forge enough (particularly block+parry) and with a full legendary set, you should be able to play comfortably without them.
Ideally, you want monsters to hit you so that you can get counter-attacks (extra damage, extra overcharge generation), but Haste and Shadow Veil work against that.
But counter-attacks are limited to 3 per turn. I'm using shadow veil and haste, and whenever there are more than 3 monsters, I dish out 3 counter attacks per turn*. Or at least it seems like it to me. Plus, the damage from these seems minimal. * Edit: until they are all stunned by these counter attacks... This post has been edited by Wivers: Oct 20 2024, 22:17
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Oct 21 2024, 12:56
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Wivers @ Oct 20 2024, 23:15) But counter-attacks are limited to 3 per turn. I'm using shadow veil and haste, and whenever there are more than 3 monsters, I dish out 3 counter attacks per turn*. Or at least it seems like it to me. Plus, the damage from these seems minimal.
At some point you become so tanky that all you care about is damage. That's why power of slaughter is the most popular heavy gear. Also it's not that minimal. You can kill monsters with it while killing other monsters
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