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post Oct 14 2024, 03:56
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How effective is Absorb above level 200?
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post Oct 14 2024, 05:32
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How effective is Absorb above level 200?


In general, don't bother with it. However, in high-level, late-game settings like the last rounds of a Grindfest, it can be useful, especially if you use scrolls, since it can save you from sparking.
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post Oct 14 2024, 10:44
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Can someone point me to a comparison of different types of mages' damage outputs?
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post Oct 14 2024, 18:08
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Can someone point me to a comparison of different types of mages' damage outputs?

damage output says nothing. More damage is not always faster. Best thing to look at is turns for specific challenges: DWD, SPL, PFFEST. Those numbers can be found in the "HV Battle records" thread: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=277026

Holy wins. Dark, Wind, Elec are very very good (dark may be a bit better of the three, but not by much). Cold and Fire are relatively cheap options that will dramatically improve your play speed when you come from 1h heavy.
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post Oct 14 2024, 21:09
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Hello, I would like to ask for advice about changing my main weapon for 1H heavy.

I am currently using this soulfused rapier of slaughter:
Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter
Soulbound, IW 10, forged 35, ADB 11%, Parry 52%, Str 11%, Dex 83%, Agi 51%

but I want one of these:

Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
395, PXP 364, ADB 88%, Parry 71%, Str 75%, Dex 85%, Agi 54%

Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of Slaughter
412, PXP 358, ADB 92%, Parry 63%, Str 15%, Dex 1%, Agi 11%

I have stronger preference for the first one (lvl 395). But I was playing a bit with scaling them up to level 500 (x key) and I think they are suprisingly close to one another, so those percentiles can really make small differences look huge.

1. Do you think I should wait until I level up to 395 or just soulfuse it as soon as possible (I will have enough souls in next 3 days).
2. Is it weapon which can function well until (let's say) lvl 450 without soulfuing?
3. Would you salvage the rapier for materials?



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Rest of the currect equimpent for context:

Legendary Zircon Force Shield of Warding
Soulbound, Str Dex Agi, IW 9, PXP 355, forged 36, BLK 97%, Pmit 27%, Mmit 68%, Str 15%, Dex 27%, Agi 77%


Magnificent Shielding Plate Helmet of Protection
358, PXP 315, forged 10, Mag ranges: BLK 34%, Str 38%, End 46%, Pmit 53%, Mmit 3%, Crus 38%, Slas 56%, Pier 15%, Burden 95%, Interf 62%

=> will change for this at lvl 394
Legendary Zircon Power Helmet of Balance
394, PXP 363, ADB 95%, Str 56%, Dex 42%, End 17%, Pmit 25%, Mmit 77%, Phy CC 34%, Phy CD 7%, Crus 50%, Slas 17%, Pier 21%, Burden 86%, Interf 41%


Legendary Zircon Power Armor of Warding
Soulbound, IW 8, PXP 365, ADB 45%, Str 54%, Dex 11%, End 51%, Pmit 15%, Mmit 52%, Phy CC 25%, Phy CD 100%, Crus 6%, Slas 89%, Pier 57%, Burden 19%, Interf 27%

Magnificent Ruby Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Soulbound, PXP 339, Mag ranges: ADB 85%, Str 48%, Dex 26%, End 41%, Pmit 78%, Mmit 32%, Phy CC 62%, Phy CD 73%, Crus 32%, Slas 35%, Pier 67%, Burden 100%, Interf 17%


Legendary Shielding Plate Greaves of Warding
379, IW 1, PXP 355, forged 10, BLK 21%, Str 38%, Dex 94%, End 9%, Pmit 53%, Mmit 38%, Crus 33%, Slas 18%, Pier 57%, Burden 96%, Interf 25%


Legendary Amber Plate Sabatons of Warding
376, IW 1, PXP 360, forged 5, Str 22%, Dex 47%, End 91%, Pmit 81%, Mmit 38%, Crus 30%, Slas 31%, Pier 78%, Burden 61%, Interf 17%

=> will change for:
Legendary Amber Power Boots of Protection
403, PXP 362, ADB 90%, Str 31%, Dex 19%, End 45%, Pmit 39%, Mmit 15%, Phy CC 85%, Phy CD 64%, Crus 27%, Slas 26%, Pier 60%, Burden 72%, Interf 72%

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post Oct 14 2024, 21:29
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 14 2024, 21:09) *

Hello, I would like to ask for advice about changing my main weapon for 1H heavy.

I am currently using this soulfused rapier of slaughter:
Legendary Fiery Rapier of Slaughter
Soulbound, IW 10, forged 35, ADB 11%, Parry 52%, Str 11%, Dex 83%, Agi 51%

but I want one of these:

Legendary Ethereal Shortsword of Slaughter
395, PXP 364, ADB 88%, Parry 71%, Str 75%, Dex 85%, Agi 54%

Legendary Hallowed Shortsword of Slaughter
412, PXP 358, ADB 92%, Parry 63%, Str 15%, Dex 1%, Agi 11%

I have stronger preference for the first one (lvl 395). But I was playing a bit with scaling them up to level 500 (x key) and I think they are suprisingly close to one another, so those percentiles can really make small differences look huge.

1. Do you think I should wait until I level up to 395 or just soulfuse it as soon as possible (I will have enough souls in next 3 days).
2. Is it weapon which can function well until (let's say) lvl 450 without soulfuing?
3. Would you salvage the rapier for materials?
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Rest of the currect equimpent for context:

Legendary Zircon Force Shield of Warding
Soulbound, Str Dex Agi, IW 9, PXP 355, forged 36, BLK 97%, Pmit 27%, Mmit 68%, Str 15%, Dex 27%, Agi 77%
Magnificent Shielding Plate Helmet of Protection
358, PXP 315, forged 10, Mag ranges: BLK 34%, Str 38%, End 46%, Pmit 53%, Mmit 3%, Crus 38%, Slas 56%, Pier 15%, Burden 95%, Interf 62%

=> will change for this at lvl 394
Legendary Zircon Power Helmet of Balance
394, PXP 363, ADB 95%, Str 56%, Dex 42%, End 17%, Pmit 25%, Mmit 77%, Phy CC 34%, Phy CD 7%, Crus 50%, Slas 17%, Pier 21%, Burden 86%, Interf 41%
Legendary Zircon Power Armor of Warding
Soulbound, IW 8, PXP 365, ADB 45%, Str 54%, Dex 11%, End 51%, Pmit 15%, Mmit 52%, Phy CC 25%, Phy CD 100%, Crus 6%, Slas 89%, Pier 57%, Burden 19%, Interf 27%

Magnificent Ruby Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
Soulbound, PXP 339, Mag ranges: ADB 85%, Str 48%, Dex 26%, End 41%, Pmit 78%, Mmit 32%, Phy CC 62%, Phy CD 73%, Crus 32%, Slas 35%, Pier 67%, Burden 100%, Interf 17%
Legendary Shielding Plate Greaves of Warding
379, IW 1, PXP 355, forged 10, BLK 21%, Str 38%, Dex 94%, End 9%, Pmit 53%, Mmit 38%, Crus 33%, Slas 18%, Pier 57%, Burden 96%, Interf 25%
Legendary Amber Plate Sabatons of Warding
376, IW 1, PXP 360, forged 5, Str 22%, Dex 47%, End 91%, Pmit 81%, Mmit 38%, Crus 30%, Slas 31%, Pier 78%, Burden 61%, Interf 17%

=> will change for:
Legendary Amber Power Boots of Protection
403, PXP 362, ADB 90%, Str 31%, Dex 19%, End 45%, Pmit 39%, Mmit 15%, Phy CC 85%, Phy CD 64%, Crus 27%, Slas 26%, Pier 60%, Burden 72%, Interf 72%

the rapier and shortsword are both pretty decent. Rapier has a bit better stats allround. In most cases, I prefer shortsword, because it has higher absolute damage. But in this particular case I'd use the rapier because of the parry. Yes this weapon could be used until level 450 without fusing. But your current rapier isn't that bad either.

yes salvage your old rapier, but only after you finish IW the new one. If you decide to change it, that is.

Mind you, the upgrade isn't that great. I think you would have more benefit from adding some more Power of Slaughter armors. You could also just leave both weapons for what they are, keep your current and focus on getting slaughter armors. Also, your shield isn't fully forged yet. Did you reach your forge level cap? Again, by upgrading and forging armors you'll unlock more forge level. Block should be forged to 50, or close to it. Great shield, by the way. Excellent.

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post Oct 14 2024, 21:36
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Oct 14 2024, 00:32) *

In general, don't bother with it. However, in high-level, late-game settings like the last rounds of a Grindfest, it can be useful, especially if you use scrolls, since it can save you from sparking.


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post Oct 15 2024, 02:36
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Hi,
I know I'm a noob, but I cannot find an answer and this thread is really TOO big to search into.

So, my question is:

HOW CAN I GET WISPY CATALIST?!!!

You can answer or give me a link. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

thank you
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post Oct 15 2024, 03:52
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QUOTE(Gomez Addams @ Oct 15 2024, 00:36) *

Hi,
I know I'm a noob, but I cannot find an answer and this thread is really TOO big to search into.

So, my question is:

HOW CAN I GET WISPY CATALIST?!!!

You can answer or give me a link. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

thank you
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You buy them from the Bazaar. Bazaar -> Item Shop -> Materials, buy the Wispy Catalyst. This is the only way to acquire catalysts.
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post Oct 15 2024, 06:00
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 14 2024, 19:08) *

damage output says nothing. More damage is not always faster. Best thing to look at is turns for specific challenges: DWD, SPL, PFFEST. Those numbers can be found in the "HV Battle records" thread: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=277026

Holy wins. Dark, Wind, Elec are very very good (dark may be a bit better of the three, but not by much). Cold and Fire are relatively cheap options that will dramatically improve your play speed when you come from 1h heavy.


I know the element ranking, thing is, I tried to calculate how come Holy is better than Dark despite not having a "Destruction" suffix, and the numbers made no sense: it should do about 33% less damage by my calculations. So I wanted to know what I was missing from the equation. Just out of interest.
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post Oct 15 2024, 07:35
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Oct 15 2024, 00:00) *

I know the element ranking, thing is, I tried to calculate how come Holy is better than Dark despite not having a "Destruction" suffix, and the numbers made no sense: it should do about 33% less damage by my calculations. So I wanted to know what I was missing from the equation. Just out of interest.

I believel your calculation is wrong.
Legendary Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall has about 1100 MDB 192 EDB when maxed.
Legendary Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction has about 1900MDB 113EDB when maxed.
Holy has about 800 less MDB but about 80 more EDB.
This can't make 33% difference since other stats should the same.
BTW, holy's debuff is better. It removes monster's magic mitigation by 10
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post Oct 15 2024, 12:32
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QUOTE(kamio11 @ Oct 15 2024, 03:52) *

You buy them from the Bazaar. Bazaar -> Item Shop -> Materials, buy the Wispy Catalyst. This is the only way to acquire catalysts.


DAMN!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

I never look at the shop, I always go to the market.

So no way to get a drop from a kind monster, uh? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
But the shop prices are ridiculously HIGH! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Oct 15 2024, 15:03
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Thank you for your complex feedback. As to some particulars:

QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 14 2024, 21:29) *

In most cases, I prefer shortsword, because it has higher absolute damage. But in this particular case I'd use the rapier because of the parry.


I upgraded the shortsword yesterday and I think it will have better absolute parry than my current rapier. Rapier's parry in lvl 383 is +27,27 % (parry chance Lv.38), but the shortsword (lvl 395) has +27,5 % (parry chance Lv.31), there is still +12 levels difference though.


QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 14 2024, 21:29) *

Mind you, the upgrade isn't that great. I think you would have more benefit from adding some more Power of Slaughter armors. You could also just leave both weapons for what they are, keep your current and focus on getting slaughter armors.

Also, your shield isn't fully forged yet. Did you reach your forge level cap? Again, by upgrading and forging armors you'll unlock more forge level. Block should be forged to 50, or close to it. Great shield, by the way. Excellent.


Yes, I will try it in the future, the current problem is that I lack credits to buy better equipments or upgrade them. Power of slaughter combination is just more expensive (if I find one with less than 500 lvl).

Despite the date of registration of my account, I started playing about 2 months ago + had early stamina penalty, so I am just starting to building my capital. (Also I think I might have just shrined or sold to shop old throphies so I most likely burned a lot of credits here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .)

I've been told the shield is not really good since it has SDA, but I didn't find anything better yet.

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post Oct 15 2024, 18:38
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Will prices increase a lot after 1/11 since people will receive their credits from isekai? I wonder if it's worth it to wait until then to sell all kind of loot.
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post Oct 15 2024, 18:56
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Will prices increase a lot after 1/11 since people will receive their credits from isekai? I wonder if it's worth it to wait until then to sell all kind of loot.

Probably not. People with stars can transfer items, people without can't. So the starred players have already transferred most of their profitable items and already have a shit ton of money anyways from passive login income/items. F2P will be less likely to get high level in Isekai or farm much in it since items can't be transferred and finding an OP item they can't transfer could lead to suffering. I'd say at most some of the mid leveled players might get around 0.5-2m, and they'll use that to buy upgrades or new gear. Probably not a significant increase anywhere, though some people might "splurge" a bit suddenly getting extra money.

TLDR: Isekai is mostly for rich folks, rich people getting a bit richer isn't going to change much, lol.

The trophy market has been kinda of depressing lately. Hard to keep playing when you earn less every day for the same work. I think 2/3 or 3/4 of my profit comes from selling trophy drops and there's no alternative. Bunch of the hath perks for alternative ways to make money increasing in cost really fucked f2p. Welp, I guess when players bail from not making much money supply will drop eventually, lol. Also seems like the market doesn't have a time limit on having items up on it. That means that a lot of the people selling trophies are dead accounts. RIP credits/active players trying to make a living, lol. I'd love to see how much of the market is propped up by dead accounts.

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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Oct 15 2024, 18:56) *

Probably not. People with stars can transfer items, people without can't. So the starred players have already transferred most of their profitable items and already have a shit ton of money anyways from passive login income/items. F2P will be less likely to get high level in Isekai or farm much in it since items can't be transferred and finding an OP item they can't transfer could lead to suffering. I'd say at most some of the mid leveled players might get around 0.5-2m, and they'll use that to buy upgrades or new gear. Probably not a significant increase anywhere, though some people might "splurge" a bit suddenly getting extra money.

TLDR: Isekai is mostly for rich folks, rich people getting a bit richer isn't going to change much, lol.

The trophy market has been kinda of depressing lately. Hard to keep playing when you earn less every day for the same work. I think 2/3 or 3/4 of my profit comes from selling trophy drops and there's no alternative. Bunch of the hath perks for alternative ways to make money increasing in cost really fucked f2p. Welp, I guess when players bail from not making much money supply will drop eventually, lol. Also seems like the market doesn't have a time limit on having items up on it. That means that a lot of the people selling trophies are dead accounts. RIP credits/active players trying to make a living, lol. I'd love to see how much of the market is propped up by dead accounts.



Well that's bad news. I totally agree, noone is buying trophies at the time and the price only drops... I think that's more due to market manipulations / big hoarders' trophies dump than dead accounts though.

And xp being such a grind even with big playtime coupled with measures to make hath more valuable at the cost of credits, and no content update for more than 2 years... Yeah the active HV players truly get a middle finger.

Even the Festival Event announcement on the forum was a bad copy paste from last year lmao
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post Oct 15 2024, 21:17
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 15 2024, 15:03) *

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I've been told the shield is not really good since it has SDA, but I didn't find anything better yet.

The shield is AMAZING for that level. Don't let anyone tell you differently. Yes, at level 500 you'd probably change it for a SDE shield, but most likely you won't be using shield at all by then and play mage.
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QUOTE(Lelfkgjicod @ Oct 15 2024, 20:46) *

Well that's bad news. I totally agree, noone is buying trophies at the time and the price only drops... I think that's more due to market manipulations / big hoarders' trophies dump than dead accounts though.

And xp being such a grind even with big playtime coupled with measures to make hath more valuable at the cost of credits, and no content update for more than 2 years... Yeah the active HV players truly get a middle finger.

Even the Festival Event announcement on the forum was a bad copy paste from last year lmao

It's not like the culprit is hard to find, lol. Hopefully people stop selling to them. Dude has that kinda money and spends his time fucking over people scrapping by. Probably a lot of those 2560/2580 (8000-50000 amounts) sell orders are more of the same. Starting to think there needs to be a sell limit or something. We should be able to block buy orders from certain people for sure. The market not showing who you're selling to is a huge problem.

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post Oct 16 2024, 04:53
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Hi,

another question from a total noob. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

WHY a FAIR cotton robe is priced at 10,000 C in the shop?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/298868634/2669a2c94f
I don't think it's so EXTRAORDINARY…

Maybe there is something I don't understand about how the shop works (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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QUOTE(Gomez Addams @ Oct 15 2024, 22:53) *

Hi,

another question from a total noob. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

WHY a FAIR cotton robe is priced at 10,000 C in the shop?
https://hentaiverse.org/equip/298868634/2669a2c94f
I don't think it's so EXTRAORDINARY…

Maybe there is something I don't understand about how the shop works (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

gomez

It looks like you salvaged that robe, so only you can buy it back, and at a high price. I can see it in your link, but not in the shop.

If someone salvages something, they can buy it back from the shop for 24 hours. The buyback cost is 5 times the normal buy cost or 10k credits, whichever is higher.
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