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post Sep 30 2024, 11:54
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Sep 30 2024, 10:16) *

Hmm, interesting. I will try it one-by-one. So basically, enchants to void damage + feather should be used permanently (with the void preference mainly to Arenas). I may try to use health draughts more often.

Also, you don't use Regen? I have it permanently up, so my HP is stabilized to 90%+ most of the time (but I didn't work the math as to using it with health draught pots / mana draught pots etc.).

Turning off haste at all or just remove it from auto-casts? My actual interference is 118 and burden 83. My AGI is lower than other stats:

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Btw, can a timer on enchant shards wear off during the battle or once you enter it stays on for the whole time?

I do use Regen of course. Thing with your gear is you'll want to get Power Armor of Slaughter instead of the Warding and Protection stuff you have. Basically you'll be giving up a lot of mitigations for more damage, so you'll have to make up for that in other ways. For me right now, I Weaken all enemies, but if I had better gear, I'd upgrade the mitigations on it to make up for that loss. My armor isn't worth upgrading and needs to be replaced before I can fix that stuff, so Weakens are a temp fix for me there. Also remember, you're going to be taking more damage if you're slower and countering enemies without Haste. It ends up speeding up your runs, but it does hurt more, lol. You might not need to Weaken enemies like me yet, but that might change in the future. You mentioned having to use Cures, so sounds like you're taking too much damage occasionally, probably from crits.

Yeah, you want to not use Haste at all.

Think enchantments can wear off, but you can also stack them. I usually use 4 infusions at once to get their timer up to an hour. Seems like you might benefit a bit from using Featherweight Shards too if your Burden is that high. Mine was always around 70-72, so it isn't too noticeable even without it. Pop one and see how much your attack speed and crit chance changes.

For reference, I have 6373 attack base damage, 172.5% hit chance, 37.2 Crit Chance, +56% crit damage, 0.7% attack speed bonus, 71.3% physical mitigation, 66.6% magical mitigation, 55.1% block chance, 50.5% parry chance, and I clear Dance with Dragons in about 26.5 minutes average without having to Cure. I just straight up have some bad gear (Still using 2 Exquisite pieces with only 2 Primary Attribute Bonuses and have no "Of Slaughter" gear yet) too, replacing those will help.

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post Sep 30 2024, 13:54
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Does this Legendary Shocking Shortsword of Slaughter worth a soulbound in isekai? My current weapon is Exquisite Arctic Rapier of Slaughter, lv298

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post Sep 30 2024, 14:22
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QUOTE(qqnumd @ Sep 30 2024, 13:54) *

Does this Legendary Shocking Shortsword of Slaughter worth a soulbound in isekai? My current weapon is Exquisite Arctic Rapier of Slaughter, lv298

I probably wouldn't anyways, I'm not a fan of bleeding. Getting better gear in Isekai isn't too difficult anyways and it's almost the end. Not sure what floor you're aiming for.

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post Sep 30 2024, 14:26
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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Sep 30 2024, 20:22) *

I probably wouldn't anyways, I'm not a fan of bleeding. Getting better gear in Isekai isn't too difficult anyways and it's almost the end. Not sure what floor you're aiming for.

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post Sep 30 2024, 14:37
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QUOTE(FruitSmoothie @ Sep 30 2024, 14:22) *

I probably wouldn't anyways, I'm not a fan of bleeding. Getting better gear in Isekai isn't too difficult anyways and it's almost the end. Not sure what floor you're aiming for.

good weapon. Will work fine without soulfuse, at least for floor 50.
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post Oct 1 2024, 17:25
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QUOTE(Noni @ Sep 29 2024, 18:08) *

Also: install the 3 essential scripts. HV can't be played without these.
1. Monsterbation
2. HV Utils
3. Live Percental Ranges


Not true. It can. If you are that kind of man (or woman, of course). Takes some kind of mind, though.

I have never installed/used scripts and I'm not planning to at least until I reach lev.500. And I remember another player who did the same, I think he is Basara iirc, but I can be wrong there.

Then again, scripts surely improve your playing efficiency. It's a choice.
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post Oct 2 2024, 06:00
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Are there any hath perks to prioritize over getting more levels of Daemon Duality? I've level 1 of that plus the elemental prof perk, the health increase, riddlemaster bonus time and IA 4.
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post Oct 2 2024, 07:11
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Are there any hath perks to prioritize over getting more levels of Daemon Duality? I've level 1 of that plus the elemental prof perk, the health increase, riddlemaster bonus time and IA 4.

Base Mana+ perk is okay too. Tokenizer can allow you to boost your monsters quicker for more mats I guess? It's hard to compare anything with Dæmon Duality though, especially with the semi recent absurd cost increase of a lot of the other combat perks. Most shit you don't really want to consider until you have at least Dæmon Duality II probably. Not like you need to max Innate Arcana, even a few levels of it is fine and you have 4 already. As a gold star, you can consider Long Gone Before Daylight for more energy boosts if you regularly use energy drinks after DD2 I guess.

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post Oct 2 2024, 10:32
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Sep 28 2024, 21:03) *

Btw, what might be a typical daily time for clearing arenas? I just did *A dance with dragons* in PFUDOR right after hitting 300th lvl and it took me 3+ hours playing with one pause of dinner.


I repeated it today and went down to about 100 mins (from previous 180 mins), which is kinda nice, also I wasn't 100% focusing on the gameplay, so I think it might realistically be about 80-90 mins, which is half of the previous time.

I have scripts, leveled up weapon and a bit more upgrades on weapon and shield. Also used enchants and removed haste spell.
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post Oct 2 2024, 10:48
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 2 2024, 10:32) *

I repeated it today and went down to about 100 mins (from previous 180 mins), which is kinda nice, also I wasn't 100% focusing on the gameplay, so I think it might realistically be about 80-90 mins, which is half of the previous time.

I have scripts, leveled up weapon and a bit more upgrades on weapon and shield. Also used enchants and removed haste spell.

Grats, that's a massive improvement lol. I woulda lost my mind running it for 2-3 hours. Hope you can get it down further soon, sure is a lot easier to run consistently when it doesn't take up a chunk of your day.

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post Oct 4 2024, 07:25
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As to Thinking Cap hath perk, it says for calculation purposes, this bonus is added to the HentaiVerse training bonus. Shall I see the bonus somewhere in the Training (I am not seeing it now) or is it active somewhere in background calculation?


Scroll of Absorption etc. is effectively scaled by training in abilities for ability points (ie. Better Absorb)?


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post Oct 4 2024, 16:21
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 4 2024, 07:25) *

As to Thinking Cap hath perk, it says for calculation purposes, this bonus is added to the HentaiVerse training bonus. Shall I see the bonus somewhere in the Training (I am not seeing it now) or is it active somewhere in background calculation?

As far as I know it's literally added to the training bonus value during calculation, as per the formula:

player_multipliers = roundup(base_exp * stamina_bonus * difficulty_bonus * arena_bonus * (1 + hath_perk_bonus + training_bonus) * (1 + star_bonus) * (1 + award_bonus) * (1 + toplist_bonus) * (1 + posting_bonus))

Note that the "training bonus" here means the Adept Learner training (the one that grants EXP bonus.) I believe there is no place where you can check your current combined EXP bonus, but I might be wrong.
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post Oct 5 2024, 11:27
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 4 2024, 06:25) *

Scroll of Absorption etc. is effectively scaled by training in abilities for ability points (ie. Better Absorb)?


No, scroll buffs are not affected by ability points. (The scroll buffs are stronger anyway.)
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post Oct 6 2024, 16:12
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How many upgrades do you need until you can play 1H Heavy on PFUDOR like you can on IWBTH? That is, how many upgrades are needed until you don't have to spam Cure and use Weaken on every monster every round? How about mage?
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post Oct 6 2024, 17:55
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How many upgrades do you need until you can play 1H Heavy on PFUDOR like you can on IWBTH? That is, how many upgrades are needed until you don't have to spam Cure and use Weaken on every monster every round? How about mage?

just forging block should be enough for that. No weaken needed anymore with high forged block. And cure of course you'll need to cure from time to time but no struggle to stayin' alive.
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post Oct 7 2024, 02:01
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post Oct 7 2024, 05:17
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QUOTE(Noni @ Oct 6 2024, 08:55) *

just forging block should be enough for that. No weaken needed anymore with high forged block. And cure of course you'll need to cure from time to time but no struggle to stayin' alive.

How high of a block chance do you need? I'm at 56.5% block chance and I still must weaken everybody. Is there even a point to upgrading stats that stack multiplicatively like block to a high level? The increments you get are so small and the upgrades are so expensive that it looks like a waste.
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post Oct 7 2024, 07:45
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Oct 7 2024, 05:17) *

How high of a block chance do you need? I'm at 56.5% block chance and I still must weaken everybody. Is there even a point to upgrading stats that stack multiplicatively like block to a high level? The increments you get are so small and the upgrades are so expensive that it looks like a waste.

I'll let someone else answer the block thing, but what you can also do is forge parry and dex and STR and PMIT. Just keep on forging and at one point you'll see that you don't need weaken anymore. Forge your gear!

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post Oct 7 2024, 08:10
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Oct 7 2024, 05:17) *

How high of a block chance do you need? I'm at 56.5% block chance and I still must weaken everybody. Is there even a point to upgrading stats that stack multiplicatively like block to a high level? The increments you get are so small and the upgrades are so expensive that it looks like a waste.


Protection
Haste
Spark of Life
Spirit Shield
Shadow Veil
Mana Draught
Regen
Are they always up?
I have 70%physical mitigation and 65%magical mitigation can pass all 20X arena
Mitigation >Slaughter

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post Oct 7 2024, 08:27
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Oct 6 2024, 10:12) *

How many upgrades do you need until you can play 1H Heavy on PFUDOR like you can on IWBTH? That is, how many upgrades are needed until you don't have to spam Cure and use Weaken on every monster every round? How about mage?

If possible,
Mage needs fully forge MDB EDB prof, depre_prof. forge_5 for anything else useful (like no adb) for staff.
For prof part, fully forge prof, forge_5 for anything else useful (Mmit is also no use for new mage)
I start with 80 (MDB), 40 (MDB, prof, etc), 5 (others), and works fine. Check my gear
At the first week, your prof is low and you might need more cure, even need scroll.
After that, if your clothes are legendary, completely no need for weaken before AR 400.
You would cure often in non-SG arenas, they're harder

For 1H, I doubt if there is any mistake with your set up. Like slotting your ability
You can check again or post both your equipment page and abilities page.
When I was at your level with no legendary gear as 1H, I already can survive without weaken
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