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Mar 28 2018, 08:24
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 28 2018, 07:49)  Wait it's 1 hath only?
Yeah, it is. But iirc it was allways like that. QUOTE(HighPower @ Mar 28 2018, 07:58)  When I google search Hentaiverse Wiki,
And you did never notice that you do find the wiki between your Forge and your Stamina indication? Just asking because i allways thought it would be pretty obvious. [attachembed=115868] Yeah, looks still very obvious to me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:20)  That's why i set my wtb 1x full set for 160k... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I didnt sell one for 190k. I dont know what you are talking about. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Mar 28 2018, 08:38
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:36)  I hope i can get 1 set again but i can't pay anything anymore.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) You could still trade. You just have to tell me. This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Mar 28 2018, 08:39
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Mar 28 2018, 09:39
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igs88
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 1-October 17

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 13:38)  You could still trade. You just have to tell me.
Sent a request... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Does stamina affecting drop rate in arena or RE? Or just exp?
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Mar 28 2018, 10:09
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(HighPower @ Mar 28 2018, 07:58)  When I google search Hentaiverse Wiki, I get Japanese and Chinese Hentaiverse Wiki as well. Do they have better information than English one?
Afaik they should be only translations from the english one, but it's possible that here and there some infos are better, yep. Who knows? You should ask the single editors. Also, caution with what you click. Unless it's the official domain, EH admin, site and staff aren't affiliated with that and we don't know in the slightest what you may find. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 08:24)  And you did never notice that you do find the wiki between your Forge and your Stamina indication? Just asking because i allways thought it would be pretty obvious.
Aye. Notable exception, if you're using hv util. That script removes the 'wiki' button. QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:36)  I saw (the wiki) the tier 8 trophy can get a minimum magnificent quality equipment, so the possibility for legendary and peerless is 33.3% each, is that right?
For such a high chance i'd shrine them myself! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) However nope, chances are way lower QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 09:39)  Does stamina affecting drop rate in arena or RE? Or just exp?
Should be written on wiki...
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Mar 28 2018, 12:35
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2018, 10:09)  Aye. Notable exception, if you're using hv util. That script removes the 'wiki' button.
There is still a wiki button on the news page and at the galleries page. So sorry, but imo you really have to try hard not to notice the wiki button. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Mar 28 2018, 12:39
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 12:35)  There is still a wiki button on the news page and at the galleries page. So sorry, but imo you really have to try hard not to notice the wiki button. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) ah, yes, sure. still remains that as long as it's https://ehwiki.org domain it's our stuff (hinted also by the fact it's trusted by the system). whatever else, no clue.
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Mar 28 2018, 14:15
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quitetanky
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 09:36)  I saw (the wiki) the tier 8 trophy can get a minimum magnificent quality equipment, so the possibility for legendary and peerless is 33.3% each, is that right?
Thats a pretty good question, and i wanted to ask about the effect of lower quality cutoff on higher quality chances for a very long time, but from what i see on forums it appears nobody knows for sure how it works (or maybe i'm shit at searching lol) and i have no idea how to find that out either: you need a LOT of data just because how big impact of rng is when dealing with such low chances. With trophies that could be much easier to test. Since base drop chance for magnificent is 0.0005%, for legendary - 0.00025%, for peerless - 0.0001%, the more correct question could be made with these proportions: if minimum quality is magnificent, is possibility for it to drop 59% and 29% and 12% for legendary and peerless respectively? However we don't see 2:5 peerless to legendary ratio anywhere, so that wouldn't be the case either. Could be that lower qualities get way bigger bonus drop chance than higher ones, but judging by amount of people who got peerless as an arena drop from pfudor dwd (= pretty much nobody) i'd say peerless chance appears to be barely affected by minimum quality cutoff even when cutoff is placed pretty high (and we do see significant increase in legendary drop chance from cutoffs much lower). Which does bring me to what is written in wiki: "However, all types of trophies have the same chance to get a Peerless equipment.", something that seems a bit too conclusive to be derived from testing and lacking link to be a citation, and i couldn't find 10b saying anything like that either (actually afaik opposite was implied a long time ago when talking about tenbora's box and maybe i'm shit at searching x2), and yet it does appear to be the case. And finally, i have to say that it very much could be that drop chances from trophies have no single formula and are simply hardcoded (look for instance at t3s, difference between lock and others is friggin huuuuuuge). So yeah, the question about the effect of minimum quality cutoff on higher quality chances still stands. Does anyone knows something more about it? Also can anyone tell where does same peerless chance thing comes from? This post has been edited by quitetanky: Mar 28 2018, 14:18
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Mar 28 2018, 14:19
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Mar 28 2018, 14:15)  Also can anyone tell where does same peerless chance thing comes from?
admin's word from a couple patches ago.
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Mar 28 2018, 14:45
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VawX
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 5-November 11

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2018, 19:19)  admin's word from a couple patches ago.
I believe I read that we have a known value for the drop rate but I don't remember, was my memory fails me or is it true that the set value is somewhere in the wiki (or somewhere, can't find it) mmm...
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Mar 28 2018, 15:04
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quitetanky
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2018, 15:19)  admin's word from a couple patches ago.
Thanks, helpful as always! QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 28 2018, 15:45)  I believe I read that we have a known value for the drop rate but I don't remember, was my memory fails me or is it true that the set value is somewhere in the wiki (or somewhere, can't find it) mmm...
Well, there are certainly base values on wiki, and, as the name implies, they can get modified. PS all i found is this: QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2015, 13:42)  Guaranteed legendary, but a fair chance for a peerless. It's just the Tenbora's Box anyway.
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Mar 28 2018, 19:43
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Benny-boy
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,971
Joined: 27-December 10

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QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 28 2018, 15:45)  I believe I read that we have a known value for the drop rate but I don't remember, was my memory fails me or is it true that the set value is somewhere in the wiki (or somewhere, can't find it) mmm...
According to wiki base drop chance for peerless = 0.0001%, so you shouldn't even care about this possibility, for example I got only 1 peerless drop ever, someone who started playing recently (peerless appeared not so long ago) might get 2 when he hits my lvl or even 3 if he will only play D&D and Follower of Snowflake is very expensive.
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Mar 29 2018, 04:27
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VawX
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 5-November 11

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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Mar 29 2018, 00:43)  According to wiki base drop chance for peerless = 0.0001%, so you shouldn't even care about this possibility, for example I got only 1 peerless drop ever, someone who started playing recently (peerless appeared not so long ago) might get 2 when he hits my lvl or even 3 if he will only play D&D and Follower of Snowflake is very expensive. Ah, not that one but the one from trophies, that's drop rate from monsters right mmm...~?
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Mar 29 2018, 05:27
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SuperShiny
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Why do some people run free shop? I think it is harsh job and demanding. I really thank them, but why?
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Mar 29 2018, 06:03
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Majin Hanako
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Joined: 5-November 09

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QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 29 2018, 05:27)  Ah, not that one but the one from trophies, that's drop rate from monsters right mmm...~?
IIRC every trophy has a 0.1% chance of giving a peerless, but I have no idea where I heard it or if it's still true.
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Mar 29 2018, 07:36
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-vincento-
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,038
Joined: 30-August 17

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QUOTE(Majin Hanako @ Mar 29 2018, 12:03)  IIRC every trophy has a 0.1% chance of giving a peerless, but I have no idea where I heard it or if it's still true.
well. If you go take a look at shrine histories some players shrined, you know the probability is totally overestimated. You won't get one peerless even if you shrine thousands of noodlies (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Mar 29 2018, 07:43
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 13,512
Joined: 19-February 16

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QUOTE(SuperShiny @ Mar 29 2018, 05:27)  Why do some people run free shop? I think it is harsh job and demanding. I really thank them, but why?
Because they are nice guys? Because they want to help this community, by helping new players? Because someone asked them to, nicely? And yeah, a big Thank You! to the FS runners! This post has been edited by DJNoni: Mar 29 2018, 07:44
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Mar 29 2018, 07:50
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Majin Hanako
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Joined: 5-November 09

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QUOTE(-vincento- @ Mar 29 2018, 08:36)  well. If you go take a look at shrine histories some players shrined, you know the probability is totally overestimated. You won't get one peerless even if you shrine thousands of noodlies (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I've been playing for like 8 years and I've never seen a peerless, I just vaguely remember hearing that the peerless chance for shrining was a flat 0.1% (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 29 2018, 07:58
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-vincento-
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,038
Joined: 30-August 17

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QUOTE(Majin Hanako @ Mar 29 2018, 13:50)  I've been playing for like 8 years and I've never seen a peerless, I just vaguely remember hearing that the peerless chance for shrining was a flat 0.1% (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Yea (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) last time a shrine addict shrined maybe like 50 mysterious teeth, 25 as shield and 25 as heavy armor. And he only got one peerless power (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . So I guess peerlesses only start to appear for tier8+ trophies. The possibility that low tier trophies get a peerless shall be ignored Experts, how is LDKD compared to LDWD? Also I see people have different opinions on the stats. Some say MDB is priority, others say EDB matters more. I just want to know how to evaluate a good willow staff
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