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post Mar 27 2018, 18:31
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QUOTE(Lastwizard05 @ Mar 27 2018, 10:38) *

Is it worth to build 2 elemental mage like fire+cold, wind+elec?
I guess holy+dark is not preferred as it requires 2 prof.


I really don't think so. Imperil play means you almost always start with the T3 spell anyway. Because during imperil phase, the T3 has time to cool off. Then just kill survivors in one or two T2 / T1 spell turns. Don't need another T3. And, you'll lose a lot of firepower, because not only prof is divided over 2 elements, also your phases will support only 1 element each. So instead of 1 Very Powerful T3 spell, you get 2 mediocre T3 spells.

I tried mixing in dark or holy T3 in spell rotation of Cold mage, which works for Schoolgirls - and with "works" I mean: almost as fast as without, but added bonus of gaining dark or holy prof. And only in SG arena's (especially DWD) it doesn't slow you down much.


ps: I hid some spelling errors in here!

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post Mar 27 2018, 19:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 27 2018, 17:30) *

they won't be worth more than precursor artifacts

Because of ony 1Hath they should imo even worth less than PA. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 28 2018, 07:49
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 00:32) *

Because of ony 1Hath they should imo even worth less than PA. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Wait it's 1 hath only?
Didn't realize lol (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Well that's fine, I mainly only aim for the PAB (avg +33 now) and ED mmm...

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post Mar 28 2018, 07:58
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When I google search Hentaiverse Wiki,
I get Japanese and Chinese Hentaiverse Wiki as well.
Do they have better information than English one?
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post Mar 28 2018, 08:20
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 00:32) *

Because of ony 1Hath they should imo even worth less than PA. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


That's why i set my wtb 1x full set for 160k... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 28 2018, 08:24
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QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 28 2018, 07:49) *

Wait it's 1 hath only?

Yeah, it is. But iirc it was allways like that.

QUOTE(HighPower @ Mar 28 2018, 07:58) *

When I google search Hentaiverse Wiki,


And you did never notice that you do find the wiki between your Forge and your Stamina indication? Just asking because i allways thought it would be pretty obvious.
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Yeah, looks still very obvious to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:20) *

That's why i set my wtb 1x full set for 160k... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I didnt sell one for 190k. I dont know what you are talking about. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Mar 28 2018, 08:36
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 13:24) *


I didnt sell one for 190k. I dont know what you are talking about. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

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I hope i can get 1 set again but i can't pay anything anymore.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I saw (the wiki) the tier 8 trophy can get a minimum magnificent quality equipment, so the possibility for legendary and peerless is 33.3% each, is that right?

Edit : (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) oh man.., the price for 1set is getting up again... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

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post Mar 28 2018, 08:38
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:36) *

I hope i can get 1 set again but i can't pay anything anymore.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

You could still trade. You just have to tell me.

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post Mar 28 2018, 09:39
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 13:38) *

You could still trade. You just have to tell me.


Sent a request... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Does stamina affecting drop rate in arena or RE? Or just exp?
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post Mar 28 2018, 10:09
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QUOTE(HighPower @ Mar 28 2018, 07:58) *

When I google search Hentaiverse Wiki,
I get Japanese and Chinese Hentaiverse Wiki as well.
Do they have better information than English one?

Afaik they should be only translations from the english one, but it's possible that here and there some infos are better, yep. Who knows? You should ask the single editors.
Also, caution with what you click. Unless it's the official domain, EH admin, site and staff aren't affiliated with that and we don't know in the slightest what you may find.

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 08:24) *

And you did never notice that you do find the wiki between your Forge and your Stamina indication? Just asking because i allways thought it would be pretty obvious.

Aye. Notable exception, if you're using hv util. That script removes the 'wiki' button.

QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 08:36) *

I saw (the wiki) the tier 8 trophy can get a minimum magnificent quality equipment, so the possibility for legendary and peerless is 33.3% each, is that right?

For such a high chance i'd shrine them myself! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
However nope, chances are way lower

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Does stamina affecting drop rate in arena or RE? Or just exp?

Should be written on wiki...
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post Mar 28 2018, 12:25
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2018, 15:09) *


For such a high chance i'd shrine them myself! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
However nope, chances are way lower



(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I just did a simple (silly) math in my head and i wish that's how it works... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 28 2018, 12:35
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2018, 10:09) *

Aye. Notable exception, if you're using hv util. That script removes the 'wiki' button.

There is still a wiki button on the news page and at the galleries page. So sorry, but imo you really have to try hard not to notice the wiki button. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Mar 28 2018, 12:39
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 28 2018, 12:35) *

There is still a wiki button on the news page and at the galleries page. So sorry, but imo you really have to try hard not to notice the wiki button. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

ah, yes, sure.

still remains that as long as it's https://ehwiki.org domain it's our stuff (hinted also by the fact it's trusted by the system). whatever else, no clue.
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post Mar 28 2018, 14:15
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 28 2018, 09:36) *

I saw (the wiki) the tier 8 trophy can get a minimum magnificent quality equipment, so the possibility for legendary and peerless is 33.3% each, is that right?

Thats a pretty good question, and i wanted to ask about the effect of lower quality cutoff on higher quality chances for a very long time, but from what i see on forums it appears nobody knows for sure how it works (or maybe i'm shit at searching lol) and i have no idea how to find that out either: you need a LOT of data just because how big impact of rng is when dealing with such low chances. With trophies that could be much easier to test. Since base drop chance for magnificent is 0.0005%, for legendary - 0.00025%, for peerless - 0.0001%, the more correct question could be made with these proportions: if minimum quality is magnificent, is possibility for it to drop 59% and 29% and 12% for legendary and peerless respectively? However we don't see 2:5 peerless to legendary ratio anywhere, so that wouldn't be the case either. Could be that lower qualities get way bigger bonus drop chance than higher ones, but judging by amount of people who got peerless as an arena drop from pfudor dwd (= pretty much nobody) i'd say peerless chance appears to be barely affected by minimum quality cutoff even when cutoff is placed pretty high (and we do see significant increase in legendary drop chance from cutoffs much lower). Which does bring me to what is written in wiki: "However, all types of trophies have the same chance to get a Peerless equipment.", something that seems a bit too conclusive to be derived from testing and lacking link to be a citation, and i couldn't find 10b saying anything like that either (actually afaik opposite was implied a long time ago when talking about tenbora's box and maybe i'm shit at searching x2), and yet it does appear to be the case. And finally, i have to say that it very much could be that drop chances from trophies have no single formula and are simply hardcoded (look for instance at t3s, difference between lock and others is friggin huuuuuuge).
So yeah, the question about the effect of minimum quality cutoff on higher quality chances still stands. Does anyone knows something more about it? Also can anyone tell where does same peerless chance thing comes from?

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post Mar 28 2018, 14:19
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QUOTE(quitetanky @ Mar 28 2018, 14:15) *

Also can anyone tell where does same peerless chance thing comes from?

admin's word from a couple patches ago.
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post Mar 28 2018, 14:45
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2018, 19:19) *

admin's word from a couple patches ago.


I believe I read that we have a known value for the drop rate but I don't remember, was my memory fails me or is it true that the set value is somewhere in the wiki (or somewhere, can't find it) mmm...
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post Mar 28 2018, 15:04
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2018, 15:19) *

admin's word from a couple patches ago.


Thanks, helpful as always!

QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 28 2018, 15:45) *

I believe I read that we have a known value for the drop rate but I don't remember, was my memory fails me or is it true that the set value is somewhere in the wiki (or somewhere, can't find it) mmm...


Well, there are certainly base values on wiki, and, as the name implies, they can get modified.


PS all i found is this:
QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 17 2015, 13:42) *

Guaranteed legendary, but a fair chance for a peerless. It's just the Tenbora's Box anyway.
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post Mar 28 2018, 19:43
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QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 28 2018, 15:45) *

I believe I read that we have a known value for the drop rate but I don't remember, was my memory fails me or is it true that the set value is somewhere in the wiki (or somewhere, can't find it) mmm...


According to wiki base drop chance for peerless = 0.0001%, so you shouldn't even care about this possibility, for example I got only 1 peerless drop ever, someone who started playing recently (peerless appeared not so long ago) might get 2 when he hits my lvl or even 3 if he will only play D&D and Follower of Snowflake is very expensive.
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post Mar 29 2018, 04:27
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Mar 29 2018, 00:43) *

According to wiki base drop chance for peerless = 0.0001%, so you shouldn't even care about this possibility, for example I got only 1 peerless drop ever, someone who started playing recently (peerless appeared not so long ago) might get 2 when he hits my lvl or even 3 if he will only play D&D and Follower of Snowflake is very expensive.


Ah, not that one but the one from trophies, that's drop rate from monsters right mmm...~?
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