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I'm wondering how much is the minimum forging for mage?
not considering IW or GF, just for, Arenas, especially DWD

I think I read somewhere before. 10 forge for armors. Staff forging is a lot cheaper and there's only one staff so about 20-30? I bought a fully forged staff so I can't really give the number but it cost me around 10M forging on armors to be able to do arenas comfortably.

I think I read somewhere before. 10 forge for armors. Staff forging is a lot cheaper and there's only one staff so about 20-30? I bought a fully forged staff so I can't really give the number but it cost me around 10M forging on armors to be able to do arenas comfortably.

How about potencies??
Penetrator, Spellweaver, or Juggernaut are essential??
Or how much of them should be prepared??

How much damage do you need for sub 30 dwd? Any style.

What's your t/s?
Without it's asking how many times you need to refuel going from Paris to Rome without knowing the car you're driving.

I'm wondering how much is the minimum forging for mage?
not considering IW or GF, just for, Arenas, especially DWD

Which mage style?
PFUDOR difficulty?

What ability seems good at first sight but actually not worth taking mmm...~?
Something like Better SP Potion maybe mmm...~?

And what about underrated ability that you should get mmm...~?

Hentaiverse works a little differntly than other games in this regard.

When you're low level, you will tend to make more AP than you can spend reasonably because so much is "locked" waiting for you to level up. Your mastery slots limits keeps you from really being able to just "get lots of abilities" to spend it all. You'll just level up fast and get lots of AP you can't really spend for awhile. So you should just get what abilities are good for you, as described in the wiki advice page.

Around "medium levels" more of your important abilities unlock further, and you will start to run into a small problem with having enough AP. You can train for more AP pretty cheaply though, so it shouldn't ever be a huge issue.

Around "high-ish levels" in the vicinity of 300-350 where I am at, a lot of abilities max out. As in, you get the last upgrade to them. At that point, you sort of go back to the same feel as low levels. Except you're leveling up much more slowly, so the effect feels spread out over weeks instead of hours or days.

As others pointed out, just grab all of the "General" abilities. They're all good, and AP is not so precious a commodity to stress out over conserving it. You should also get all the abilities for your style: weapon and armor abilities (one exception: mages should not bother with staff physical damage ability. It's really pointless.)

There are also several supportive and deprecating abilities you can consider, especially when you get to medium or high-ish level ranges and have the mastery slots open to try out extra stuff.

Also remember you have three personas for free. Each one can have it's own abilities. So if you want to try out very different styles, like 1h and mage, you should just build a persona for each. You can have the mage persona spend experience into INT and WIS, while the 1h persona spends into STR and DEX (and so on). And each one can use abilities that suit that style.

Another thing you can do at high-ish and end-game levels, is there is an option in the character-settings page to make each equipment slot use it's own ability layout. You can, for example, make a "high agility melee persona" where you spend into STR, DEX, AGI, and a bit under level on END and WIS (0 INT). Then you buy all the general abilities, your preferred supportive and deprecating abilities, light armor abilities, and all the DW and 2H abilities (and therefore all the Niten). Then you select that option for that persona, and on your three free equip sets, make one for DW, one for 2h, and one for Niten. And slot abilities for each appropriately. You'd use all the same general, supportive, deprecating, and light armor abilities. And you'd adjust which weapon abilities are slotted based on which equipment slot you're in.

Abiltie Points are a plentiful resource. While you don't quite get enough to "do all the things!" you aren't really heavily restricted by them.

Which mage style?
PFUDOR difficulty?

Yes, PFUDOR DWD
I have about 20Ms credits and just wondering if i can start mage
I don't care about mage styles, just want sub 30 clear

Yes, PFUDOR DWD
I have about 20Ms credits and just wondering if i can start mage
I don't care about mage styles, just want sub 30 clear

Go frozen mage. It's cool. 20M is enough. I started with a 500k staff, several 1M charged pieces, 10M forge. You would still have a lot of difficulty beating non-SG arenas though.

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Oh thanks:)
But why non-SG arenas are more difficult??

What's your t/s?

1.7-1.8. Closer to .8.

with DW, 7k was enough when I was 340 (but I already had DD I).

What the actual fuck? The same stats took me exactly 53 minutes with maybe one minute afk max. I guess that makes sense with more than 3 turns per second but I don't think that's the norm. Is it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

1.7-1.8. Closer to .8.
What the actual fuck? The same stats took me exactly 53 minutes with maybe one minute afk max. I guess that makes sense with more than 3 turns per second but I don't think that's the norm. Is it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

2.8 here. Yours is slow, I think

Oh thanks:)
But why non-SG arenas are more difficult??

Cos the SGs are just HP sacks. They deal little damage, and regen takes care of your HP while you're dealing with them. But monsters are brutal, especially when they can gang bang you with their number. Monsters come in wave after wave with no time for you to take a break in non-SG arenas. I remember dying a lot in the first arena of 2nd page.

This post has been edited by as013: Jan 3 2018, 04:32

Yes, PFUDOR DWD
I have about 20Ms credits and just wondering if i can start mage
I don't care about mage styles, just want sub 30 clear

If you still haven't I would take the DD perk before planning to switch to mage.

Anyway, for arenas and in particular DwD in term of efficiency it's probably something like:
- Holy (but it may not performed very well at your level)
- Dark (see above)
- Wind (with willow)
- Elec (with willow)
- Wind (with redwood)
- Elec (with redwood)
- Cold
- Fire
(no idea if wind vs elec is accurate though, wind has konata advantage, elec proc advantage, wind is generally considered all-around better so I put it higher)

Given your level elec or wind are probably the safer choices (willow elec or willow wind mages are pretty much as strong as imperil mages can go).

20M is probably enough to start a decent elec mage build, just don't expect to have an easy time.
Mages really shine after you have:
1) Good IW on the staff (Pen5 + at least some spellweaver) + forging MDB as high as you can afford + a bit of EDB and prof for a good amount (if it's a good staff) ~5-10M
2) 4 phase forged to 10 (EDB) ~9M
3) 1 prof cotton with prof forged pretty high ~1-3M (if it's the final prof piece, otherwise 15 may be enough to start)
4) prof perk for the element used ~4M
5) Evil Enchantress ~4M
6) DD1 ~8M
7) Innate Arcana at least IV ~depends

This after you have bought worthy equipments.

1.7-1.8. Closer to .8.

With that kind of t/s it would be very difficult to go sub30 with a melee style.
You probably need a mage build for that.

2.8 here. Yours is slow, I think

HV has gotten slower in general, scripts or no scripts. I don't know what's going on. I can't connect to alt either. I wonder if it just doesn't have any ssl.
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Yep, that was it. Slighty faster 2.3 t/s, but that would only bring the time down to about 42 minutes. Gains must be made somewhere.

HV has gotten slower in general, scripts or no scripts. I don't know what's going on. I can't connect to alt either. I wonder if it just doesn't have any ssl.
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Yep, that was it. Slighty faster 2.3 t/s, but that would only bring the time down to about 42 minutes. Gains must be made somewhere.

With 2.3 is probably doable, but you would probably need something like a full slaughter setup with 9k+ ADB (for 1H).

you would probably need something like a full slaughter setup with 9k+ ADB (for 1H).

with an unforged protection set. I think he was level 350 at that time

This post has been edited by lololo16: Jan 3 2018, 06:24

Anyway, for arenas and in particular DwD in term of efficiency it's probably something like:
- Holy (but it may not performed very well at your level)
- Dark (see above)
- Wind (with willow)
- Elec (with willow)
- Wind (with redwood)
- Elec (with redwood)
- Cold
- Fire
(no idea if wind vs elec is accurate though, wind has konata advantage, elec proc advantage, wind is generally considered all-around better so I put it higher)

I think you underestimate Cold Redwood. That's probably better than Wind Redwood and Elec Redwood because better matching staff. More damage. Makes up for not imperiling everything. Fire probably too, but I haven't played fire.

Magnificent Zircon Power Leggings of Warding ADB 60%

Guys how to calculate "ADB" value?

Magnificent Zircon Power Leggings of Warding ADB 60%

Guys how to calculate "ADB" value?

Minimum ADB for a legendary is 0%. Maximum (Peerless) is 100%. The highest a Magnificent can have is higher than the lowest a legendary could have. So most people still evaluate them on the Legendary scale. That's how the old/still most-used "percentile" script evaluates them.

Your magnificent armor falls at the same ADB as a 60% legendary would.

It seems they have same ranges following wiki,
then what is difference between them, except proc, and monsters' resistancy??

It seems they have same ranges following wiki,
then what is difference between them, except proc, and monsters' resistancy??

I guess you're right. It's just that wind/elec do better with willow. And Cold has benefit of proc + fire spike.

However:
I own a good dark set (2nd place) and a good cold set (almost ranked last). And for arena's the difference is negligible. A matter of seconds. On cold day, cold is faster. Same for SG - almost no difference. Only PFFest is a difference of maybe a couple of minutes in favor of Dark.

Probably dark isn't as good as you think...

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Jan 3 2018, 12:24

Minimum ADB for a legendary is 0%. Maximum (Peerless) is 100%. The highest a Magnificent can have is higher than the lowest a legendary could have. So most people still evaluate them on the Legendary scale. That's how the old/still most-used "percentile" script evaluates them.

Your magnificent armor falls at the same ADB as a 60% legendary would.

But how exactly do we calculate that stat "ADB"