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Jun 3 2024, 01:50
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polisperic
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Why do people say doing IW in isekai sucks? You get double the PXP. Is it the stamina cost?
Also, what do you do in battle when playing mage? I'm trying it for the first time on lower difficulties and it's difficult. Is it just imperil everybody, use your strongest spell for damage, and finish enemies off with weaker spells? Do you ever attack with the staff, rotate spells, etc.?
This post has been edited by polisperic: Jun 3 2024, 02:23
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Jun 3 2024, 02:35
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Jun 2 2024, 19:50) Why do people say doing IW in isekai sucks? You get double the PXP. Is it the stamina cost?
Also, what do you do in battle when playing mage? I'm trying it for the first time on lower difficulties and it's difficult. Is it just imperil everybody, use your strongest spell for damage, and finish enemies off with weaker spells? Do you ever attack with the staff, rotate spells, etc.?
Double Triple PXP while double stamina cost. No ED in Isekai, no LGBD perk even you have ED So people who cleared SG arena do not have much stamina for IW. No dark descent, shard costs a lot. If you only IW 1 level in the beginning, stamina costs a lot. Basically, IMP all, rotate T3-T2-T1. Use cure when needed or before the next round When having a hard time surviving, weaken all (weaken is better than silence for a mage), use scroll, infusion. It's hard when you just become a mage due to the proficiency system Forge prof first, and forge it as you can. Use 1 more prof part in the early stage (low prof stage) Monsterbation setting matters. Almost all mage players have this setting Strongest([Cast('T3'), Cast('T2'), Cast('1')]) hover action Nothing alt hover action Then, arrange Impulse(Strongest([Cast('Full-Cure'), Use(4), Cast('Cure')])), weaken, imp, magnet, in your favor Alternative, sleep top, T2-T1 the bottom. Safe, but slow. 1H mage guide writer mentions this This post has been edited by l13763824039: Jun 3 2024, 04:18
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Jun 3 2024, 16:28
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Ser6IjVolk
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I have to ask, if Holy mage is just objectively fastest at farming Arenas, why do people even bother with anything else? Purely affordability and availability? Wouldn't even Mag Holy mage perform better than Lego elementals and same-ish to Lego Dark?
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Jun 3 2024, 17:57
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Jun 3 2024, 15:28) I have to ask, if Holy mage is just objectively fastest at farming Arenas, why do people even bother with anything else? Purely affordability and availability? Wouldn't even Mag Holy mage perform better than Lego elementals and same-ish to Lego Dark?
It's more like a 10%-ish improvement, so I don't think mag holy would compare even remotely to a properly built legendary+ mage of other styles - but yeah, it's partly because it costs something like 200m+ to complete a decent set & forge it.
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Jun 3 2024, 22:17
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Noni
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QUOTE(Ex_ @ Jun 3 2024, 14:58) Legendary Ethereal Rapier of BalanceDoes this worth soulbound for tower? Soul fragments in ISK are rare (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) it's a nice weapon, but in the end a slaughter weapon would be better. For DW, this is quite good though.
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Jun 4 2024, 00:56
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justreadin
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Do you guys find it worth it to build a mage of any kind in Isekai? I've been trying to grind as 1H when I've time but the prof grind and equipment gathering for a mage seems a bit more difficult than I thought.
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Jun 4 2024, 02:12
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polisperic
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You're supposed to imperil all monsters before attacking them when you play as mage, but what happens if there's a monster that keeps resisting/evading your imperil? Do you keep trying to imperil it, or do you skip using imperil and just cast your spells on it? I've tried both ways, and both lead to lots of wasted mana. Is melee with your staff a good option?
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Jun 4 2024, 03:28
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SDR Fang
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Jun 3 2024, 17:12) You're supposed to imperil all monsters before attacking them when you play as mage, but what happens if there's a monster that keeps resisting/evading your imperil? Do you keep trying to imperil it, or do you skip using imperil and just cast your spells on it? I've tried both ways, and both lead to lots of wasted mana. Is melee with your staff a good option?
I don't know the best solution. I think if you have survival issues, start casting and kill other monsters first will be a good option. But anyway melee is not even an option (unless you need charge for FRD for the boss round). Even if you want to do melee for any reason, you should still imp before doing melee attack.
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Jun 4 2024, 04:00
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IndyZa
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I'm currently wearing https://hentaiverse.org/equip/295755836/9927e4ac48 as my light armor breastplate. Its almost 100 level under my current level. Should I soulbound it or find and buy a higher level magnificent then soulbound it?
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Jun 4 2024, 04:37
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(IndyZa @ Jun 3 2024, 22:00) I'm currently wearing https://hentaiverse.org/equip/295755836/9927e4ac48 as my light armor breastplate. Its almost 100 level under my current level. Should I soulbound it or find and buy a higher level magnificent then soulbound it? Never leather. If you play light armor, go shade. But low-level legendary shades are super rare to collect (a full set).Wrong statement, anything low-level legendary is hard to collect a full set. I'd recommend heavy armor - power. Power save turns if you can survive Check attributes instead of quality. High level has higher attributes. 200 level equipment can beat 100 level legendary easily. Soulbound might be expensive at your level. You can try the auto rental store. It covers light, heavy, and many different levels. This post has been edited by l13763824039: Jun 4 2024, 05:02
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Jun 4 2024, 05:16
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IndyZa
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Jun 4 2024, 04:37) Never leather. If you play light armor, go shade. But low-level legendary shades are super rare to collect (a full set).Wrong statement, anything low-level legendary is hard to collect a full set. I'd recommend heavy armor - power. Power save turns if you can survive Check attributes instead of quality. High level has higher attributes. 200 level equipment can beat 100 level legendary easily.
Soulbound might be expensive at your level. You can try the auto rental store. It covers light, heavy, and many different levels.
Does status buff matter less than the armor attribute itself? Originally I wear Magnificent armor because it give 4 stats.
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Jun 4 2024, 05:24
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(IndyZa @ Jun 3 2024, 23:16) Does status buff matter less than the armor attribute itself? Originally I wear Magnificent armor because it give 4 stats.
Status buff matters, but these two things are separate. Armor does not provide status buff/debuff. Some stats are given by prefix/suffix. Usually, M quality can have up to 3 PAB(primary attributes)
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Jun 4 2024, 05:34
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IndyZa
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Jun 4 2024, 05:24) Status buff matters, but these two things are separate. Armor does not provide status buff/debuff. Some stats are given by prefix/suffix. Usually, M quality can have up to 3 PAB(primary attributes) Apologies for the mistake of word, I meant the primary attribute (Strength/Dex/Agi/etc.). Does this matter more or less than the other stats armor provide (Physical Mitigation/Evasion/Etc.). If I understand correctly, higher level gear with less rarity may give more primary attribute than lower gear, for example, Magnificent lvl 130 give 29 strength but Exquisite lvl 230 will give more than 29 strength. Is my understanding correct?
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Jun 4 2024, 06:08
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(IndyZa @ Jun 3 2024, 23:34) Apologies for the mistake of word, I meant the primary attribute (Strength/Dex/Agi/etc.). Does this matter more or less than the other stats armor provide (Physical Mitigation/Evasion/Etc.).
If I understand correctly, higher level gear with less rarity may give more primary attribute than lower gear, for example, Magnificent lvl 130 give 29 strength but Exquisite lvl 230 will give more than 29 strength. Is my understanding correct?
Matter less as you level up. But I don't think that you need to care about this. Because it scales upon your level. If a gear has lesser attribute A than another gear, then it is highly likely to have lesser attribute B than that gear. If they're different types of gear, then you should focus on their advantage. Power->more ADB -> save turns: best offense at the low level Shade -> highest survivability: Much less counter-attack because of high action speed and evade shielding plate -> very tanky: Both clear speed and survivability are between power and shade. leather is outperformed by Shade, which totally Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance52 strength + 78 dex means about 180 damage in my level. And I have about 8k ADB in my level. PAB from gear was my only source when I was at a low level. So, it matters a lot. Now I have more sources, power, slaughter, ability, etc. It matters less. Correct. My legendary force shield is worse than an M force shield in the store Legendary Onyx Force Shield of ProtectionMagnificent Amber Force Shield of DampeningIf you don't soulfuse, check PABs. Don't only look at the rarity.
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Jun 4 2024, 06:27
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IndyZa
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Jun 4 2024, 06:08) Matter less as you level up. But I don't think that you need to care about this. Because it scales upon your level. If a gear has lesser attribute A than another gear, then it is highly likely to have lesser attribute B than that gear. If they're different types of gear, then you should focus on their advantage. Power->more ADB -> save turns: best offense at the low level Shade -> highest survivability: Much less counter-attack because of high action speed and evade shielding plate -> very tanky: Both clear speed and survivability are between power and shade. leather is outperformed by Shade, which totally Legendary Demonic Rapier of Balance52 strength + 78 dex means about 180 damage in my level. And I have about 8k ADB in my level. PAB from gear was my only source when I was at a low level. So, it matters a lot. Now I have more sources, power, slaughter, ability, etc. It matters less. Correct. My legendary force shield is worse than an M force shield in the store Legendary Onyx Force Shield of ProtectionMagnificent Amber Force Shield of DampeningIf you don't soulfuse, check PABs. Don't only look at the rarity. I understand this a bit more now. I'll try looking for a decent PAB and Shade/Power breastplate. Appreciate the detailed explanation. Thank you.
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Jun 4 2024, 06:31
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(IndyZa @ Jun 4 2024, 00:27) I understand this a bit more now. I'll try looking for a decent PAB and Shade/Power breastplate. Appreciate the detailed explanation. Thank you.
Also, you need to use the same armor. Cloth/light/heavy. Shade and leather are both light. If you don't, your ability won't work.
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Jun 4 2024, 07:48
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Noni
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Jun 4 2024, 02:12) You're supposed to imperil all monsters before attacking them when you play as mage, but what happens if there's a monster that keeps resisting/evading your imperil? Do you keep trying to imperil it, or do you skip using imperil and just cast your spells on it? I've tried both ways, and both lead to lots of wasted mana. Is melee with your staff a good option?
your level is too low for imperil to be effective. Wait until level 310 (or 330 would be even better) and play 1h + shield in the mean time.
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Jun 4 2024, 08:21
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what_is_name
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QUOTE(polisperic @ Jun 4 2024, 08:12) You're supposed to imperil all monsters before attacking them when you play as mage, but what happens if there's a monster that keeps resisting/evading your imperil? Do you keep trying to imperil it, or do you skip using imperil and just cast your spells on it? I've tried both ways, and both lead to lots of wasted mana. Is melee with your staff a good option?
you're supposed to waste a lot of mana as long as you're playing mage, no matter any way. it's pretty common to use mana elixir even if you have full imp unlocked and pretty good build, or maybe you can use the aether shard to reduce the usage. btw it's OK to play mage below lv310 in my view, it just a bit much costly and painful. forget the mana and scrolls cost, they're necessary
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Jun 4 2024, 09:02
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Jun 4 2024, 02:37) Never leather. If you play light armor, go shade. But low-level legendary shades are super rare to collect (a full set).Wrong statement, anything low-level legendary is hard to collect a full set. I'd recommend heavy armor - power. Power save turns if you can survive Check attributes instead of quality. High level has higher attributes. 200 level equipment can beat 100 level legendary easily.
Soulbound might be expensive at your level. You can try the auto rental store. It covers light, heavy, and many different levels.
Don't start recommending him the use of Heavy instead of Light when: 1) you don't even know what style he's playing 2) he's not asked for style optimization nor discussed anything about it QUOTE(IndyZa @ Jun 4 2024, 02:00) I'm currently wearing https://hentaiverse.org/equip/295755836/9927e4ac48 as my light armor breastplate. Its almost 100 level under my current level. Should I soulbound it or find and buy a higher level magnificent then soulbound it? We'd need more context here please. We can't judge what decision is right when we don't know what else you have as equipment and how you're playing. That leather, while not ideal, is decent for what it does, but at least, considering your current level, it's fine to keep it as is. You don't need or want to soulfuse it unless you're really swimming in soul fragments.
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