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Mar 26 2024, 04:00
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ultimaflaral
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I'm currently playing fire mage and am curious what the priority should be for upgrading my armor. Magic damage? Physical/Magical Defense? Agility/Wisdom/Intelligence? Spell Damage? Evade/Resist?
Thoughts?
UF
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Mar 26 2024, 04:45
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justreadin
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QUOTE(jantch @ Mar 26 2024, 07:20) Yes. I use a redwood staff for schoolgirl arenas and RoB, and a willow staff for everything else. My willow staff is better than my redwood, which may skew things somewhat, but my previous willow was mediocre, and still better than the redwood for grindfest and IW.
Alrighty then, guess I'll hit up my old 1H set for some IWs and get some captchas too. Thanks for the quick response. QUOTE(ultimaflaral @ Mar 26 2024, 09:00) I'm currently playing fire mage and am curious what the priority should be for upgrading my armor. Magic damage? Physical/Magical Defense? Agility/Wisdom/Intelligence? Spell Damage? Evade/Resist?
Thoughts?
UF
I'm not exactly an expert but I asked a similar question earlier and Noni gave me this: QUOTE(Noni @ Nov 20 2023, 13:30) - correct, prof then EDB/MDB. Don't forget evade for defense if you get killed a lot, and PMit as well. Then the PABs
I use a forge optimizer and follow these principles since I've already reached my prof goal. AFAIK Mdef doesn't really matter much to mages if you kill stuff fast enough, but I don't play super hard content so YMMV. This post has been edited by justreadin: Mar 26 2024, 04:54
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Mar 26 2024, 09:42
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(ultimaflaral @ Mar 25 2024, 20:00) I'm currently playing fire mage and am curious what the priority should be for upgrading my armor. Magic damage? Physical/Magical Defense? Agility/Wisdom/Intelligence? Spell Damage? Evade/Resist?
Thoughts?
UF
Proficiency first for all things you have that give prof, be it staff or elementalist pieces. High priority. Also staff Spell Damage and MDB should be top priority as they give quite the big stats, so much that a level 100 upgrade of MDB from a staff provides more stats than a level 1 upgrade from a Radiant clothing. Evade/PMit/Spell Damage are high on the list too as they'll improve the experience by a lot. Those are the basic ones for a build, granted you might wanna invest a little here and there between them to keep stat gain and phazon efficiency balanced, but besides those only PAB worth noting would be Agility as it provides some extra PMit and Evade. Should you be able to forge more then Wisdom, Intelligence and Magic Damage on radiants as a low priority and after those pretty much everything else.
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Mar 26 2024, 15:28
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idler1984
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QUOTE(what_is_name @ Mar 25 2024, 16:29) the cleaning of RoB with 2H means nothing, especially the mace is the weakest on the big bosses. if you want to play RoB then I would suggest to temporary switch to DW, with any two 1H weapon is better than 2H, or at least try switch to estoc, at least it work better than mace on the big bosses, don't use OFC on the big boss, it work suck, try using IMP as much as possible.
also it's hard to say on the PFUDOR The Trio and the Tree arena, but for DWD I would say it's possible to clear with 2H in your level. the mace is fine but it should be quite slow, a estoc should be faster. no need to concern too much about defensive, a estoc survive OK in high difficulty as well as the mace do, or even better. basically 2H mainly survive with the stun from 2H skills, but not from the weapon procs. as the weapon procs have a low chance after you hit, but the skills have 100% stun chance and always hit. always collect 100+ overcharge before a round end, that means basically don't use the Spirit stance and OFC, and after the next round begin, use the Rending Blow+Shatter Strike on the normal monsters then you will get 5 stunned targets, they're easy to kill and won't hurt you anything, and for the DWD, as the offensive of SG is quite weak so you're far safer than in normal arena. always kill the normal monsters first, if you're fail to kill them before them wakeup, remember to use the Shatter Strike only after the stunned effect expires, because the stunned effect can't extend, so use a Shatter Strike or the mace on a stunned target is useless, but the Penetrated Armor effect is extendable, so use the estoc on the stunned target works well, and even they wakeup you only need to use the Shatter Strike, no need to use Rending Blow again, as they should already in Penetrated Armor state. this playstyle should be enough for cleaning the DWD, it works also on normal arena, just a bit more dangerous
QUOTE(namae56709 @ Mar 25 2024, 22:02) 2H is pretty awful against boss monsters, I sincerely hope you don't try DWD with a mace, or another go at TT&T for that matter. It's just painfully slow. In general, I think you should try out the debuff spells some more. Imperil is great for improving your damage output, and weaken is excellent for 2H and 1H when you're taking a lot of damage. Don't forget to upgrade and slot the relevant abilities when using debuff spells.
Thank you for the details. Indeed 2H mace sucks on killing SG and dragons. I took the advice and a very nice shield from l13763824039 to switch to 1H (rapier) + shield. Luckily I got some nice power armor pieces. With a good shield and IW10 rapier I found surviving is like a walk in the park (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) also bleeding + penetrate armor kills SG bosses quickly. Managed to clear DWD at around 6k turns. This post has been edited by idler1984: Mar 26 2024, 15:29
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Mar 27 2024, 10:43
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bokuglack
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Is this power helmet or any of my other equipment worth soulfusing? Legendary Jade Power Helmet of ProtectionFor reference, my equipment set currently looks like this. This post has been edited by bokuglack: Mar 27 2024, 10:43
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Mar 27 2024, 13:33
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idler1984
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QUOTE(bokuglack @ Mar 27 2024, 10:43) Is this power helmet or any of my other equipment worth soulfusing? Legendary Jade Power Helmet of ProtectionFor reference, my equipment set currently looks like this. 314, PXP 364, ADB 4%, Str 70%, Dex 33%, End 89%, Pmit 88%, Mmit 13%, Phy CC 63%, Phy CD 29%, Crus 17%, Slas 45%, Pier 54%, Burden 0%, Interf 77% It has relatively low ADB. But since we can get ~60 fragments everyday from random encounter, you will have a large stock of soul fragments by the time you need to soulfuse it. So by the time if you have no better helmet, it won't hurt to soulfuse it. This post has been edited by idler1984: Mar 27 2024, 13:34
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Mar 28 2024, 05:18
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Tumbres
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is there a way to remove riddlemaster penalty?
it happen because whenever i enter puzzle in first time,the 30s timer didn't show up,and i must reload it see it.
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Mar 28 2024, 06:22
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(Tumbres @ Mar 27 2024, 23:18) is there a way to remove riddlemaster penalty? it happen because whenever i enter puzzle in first time,the 30s timer didn't show up,and i must reload it see it.
The only way is to have higher accuracy in your future riddle. Tenboro doesn't tell the exact formula.
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Mar 28 2024, 18:04
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Wululululu-BZZT
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What is the minimum quality equipment I need to clear arenas with mage? Magnificent? I've been to Nezu's guide, but it's not mentioned.
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Mar 28 2024, 18:31
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Noni
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QUOTE(Wululululu-BZZT @ Mar 28 2024, 17:04) What is the minimum quality equipment I need to clear arenas with mage? Magnificent? I've been to Nezu's guide, but it's not mentioned.
you can clear with lower tier. But it will be very, very painful and slow on PFUDOR. Just adjust difficulty and play style to match your gear. Use weaken a lot.
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Mar 28 2024, 18:37
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mathl33t
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QUOTE(Wululululu-BZZT @ Mar 28 2024, 12:04) What is the minimum quality equipment I need to clear arenas with mage? Magnificent? I've been to Nezu's guide, but it's not mentioned.
Most important is that it matches. Don't do a weird mix of multiple elements. In isekai, I've started doing schoolgirl arenas with magnificents and some exquisites at level 310 or even earlier. Doing other arenas will be very difficult on pfudor, but iwbth might be doable. Don't be afraid to use lots of consumables: potions, draughts, elixirs, scrolls. Matching equipment is much, much more important than quality. For example, in a previous isekai season, I got a peerless fiery oak staff of the earth-walker and tried to use it. I later switched to a magnificent arctic redwood staff of destruction (and switched all my surtr clothes for niflheim) and cleared faster.
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Mar 29 2024, 09:01
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minnazzo
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I think item world monsters are tougher than Arena
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Mar 29 2024, 10:03
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Noni
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QUOTE(minnazzo @ Mar 29 2024, 08:01) I think item world monsters are tougher than Arena
you think correctly. IW difficulty scales with every round, arena's don't do that. Last rounds of IW are tough.
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Mar 29 2024, 20:20
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notthisagain
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What level should we leave monsters at? Is there a cut off where we can start getting more mid grade materials as gift?
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Mar 29 2024, 20:43
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Noni
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QUOTE(notthisagain @ Mar 29 2024, 19:20) What level should we leave monsters at? Is there a cut off where we can start getting more mid grade materials as gift?
25 is a good level -> best return on investment. After that, 750 is a nice level. But already becoming a poor investment.
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Mar 29 2024, 20:51
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chjj30
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QUOTE(notthisagain @ Mar 30 2024, 02:20) What level should we leave monsters at? Is there a cut off where we can start getting more mid grade materials as gift?
begin with 51 (all 2) step by step: 204 (5 primary 12 resist) 468 (9 primary 21 resist) 702 (12 primary 26 resist) 792 (13 primary 28 resist)
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Mar 30 2024, 01:37
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sigo8
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QUOTE(notthisagain @ Mar 29 2024, 12:20) What level should we leave monsters at? Is there a cut off where we can start getting more mid grade materials as gift?
Mid-grades should be maximized at 499, which is that last level that can NOT give high-grades (I've logged over 10,000 gifts at that level, zero high grades). At this point the decrease of the low-grade rate should go to an increase of the high-grade rate until low-grade rate is zero and the high-grade rate start eating the mid-grade rate at around 749 (I haven't started logging gifts in the 750 area yet). To dove tail with what chjj30 said, I recommend 531 QUOTE(chjj30 @ Mar 29 2024, 12:51) begin with 51 (all 2) step by step: 204 (5 primary 12 resist) 468 (9 primary 21 resist) 702 (12 primary 26 resist) 792 (13 primary 28 resist)
You missed 531, which is the lowest min-diff level that can give high grades. CODE Level P E Packs Diff 75 2 6 1 11 117 3 9 1 -27 162 4 11 1 -27 216 5 13 1 -36 273 6 15 2 -61 333 7 17 3 -122 396 8 19 4 -252 468 9 21 6 -510 531 10 22 8 760 615 11 24 12 914 702 12 26 18 977 792 13 28 28 789 885 14 30 44 40 993 15 32 70 -1,854 1,104 16 34 112 -5,969 1,218 17 36 178 -14,236 1,311 18 37 255 29,557 1,431 19 39 397 35,911 1,560 20 41 617 39,743 1,698 21 43 959 36,026 1,839 22 45 1,490 14,767 1,983 23 47 2,360 -43,061 2,130 24 49 3,776 -172,612 2,250 25 50 5,603 827,388
Turns out there's one minima per Primary Attribute level.
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Mar 30 2024, 02:09
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Mar 29 2024, 19:37) Mid-grades should be maximized at 499, which is that last level that can NOT give high-grades (I've logged over 10,000 gifts at that level, zero high grades). At this point the decrease of the low-grade rate should go to an increase of the high-grade rate until low-grade rate is zero and the high-grade rate start eating the mid-grade rate at around 749 (I haven't started logging gifts in the 750 area yet). To dove tail with what chjj30 said, I recommend 531 You missed 531, which is the lowest min-diff level that can give high grades. CODE Level P E Packs Diff 75 2 6 1 11 117 3 9 1 -27 162 4 11 1 -27 216 5 13 1 -36 273 6 15 2 -61 333 7 17 3 -122 396 8 19 4 -252 468 9 21 6 -510 531 10 22 8 760 615 11 24 12 914 702 12 26 18 977 792 13 28 28 789 885 14 30 44 40 993 15 32 70 -1,854 1,104 16 34 112 -5,969 1,218 17 36 178 -14,236 1,311 18 37 255 29,557 1,431 19 39 397 35,911 1,560 20 41 617 39,743 1,698 21 43 959 36,026 1,839 22 45 1,490 14,767 1,983 23 47 2,360 -43,061 2,130 24 49 3,776 -172,612 2,250 25 50 5,603 827,388
Turns out there's one minima per Primary Attribute level. What does the diff mean here? Does it suggest that I should skip monster level with negative diff? This post has been edited by l13763824039: Mar 30 2024, 02:10
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Mar 30 2024, 02:58
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sigo8
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QUOTE(l13763824039 @ Mar 29 2024, 18:09) What does the diff mean here? Does it suggest that I should skip monster level with negative diff?
All the levels in that list are good. Which is positive or negative is arbitrary, and I've even forgotten which is which. It's the difference in the amount of Primary Attribute and Elemental Resistance crystal spent. For example to get to lv 75 you need to spend 117 of each kind of Elemental crystal and 128 of each kind of Attribute crystal, so the difference is 11.
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Mar 30 2024, 03:47
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l13763824039
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Mar 29 2024, 20:58) All the levels in that list are good. Which is positive or negative is arbitrary, and I've even forgotten which is which. It's the difference in the amount of Primary Attribute and Elemental Resistance crystal spent. For example to get to lv 75 you need to spend 117 of each kind of Elemental crystal and 128 of each kind of Attribute crystal, so the difference is 11.
Got it. Thank you.
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