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post Mar 20 2018, 07:43
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Mar 20 2018, 12:00) *

That's definitely interesting info, any idea of how old those monsters are? Just to get a better feel of win/day.

If anyone else has info on their monster's level/win/living time let me know.


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The humanoid PL474 is since Dec 2017, the rest are since late Jan 2018, and seems like mechanoid type got more win/kill blows rate...
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post Mar 20 2018, 07:55
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QUOTE(igs88 @ Mar 20 2018, 00:43) *

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The humanoid PL474 is since Dec 2017, the rest are since late Jan 2018, and seems like mechanoid type got more win/kill blows rate...

not 100% how to read this, is the 1/0 after lv 474 it's wins/killing blows? not sure what the +'s are.
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:01
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At Level ~300, is it worth buying Power Armor of Balance, or just go for Power Armor of Protection/Warding? Trying to figure out what pieces I should buy and/or mix/match.
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:09
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If you cant find any other, balance is okay for the start. And personaly i would mix Protection/Warding Three Pro two War. I know, most people would/will disaggree and tell you that Warding is worthless because there a much more physical attacks out there. And i tell you, who cares about what is more often out there, when you would mostly get killed by magical attacks. At least that is what i did notice, and because of that i doubt that i will ever again use a full protection set. But like i said, there are people out there who would disagree, i guess even most people would disagree.
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:16
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Mar 20 2018, 06:00) *

That's definitely interesting info, any idea of how old those monsters are? Just to get a better feel of win/day.

If anyone else has info on their monster's level/win/living time let me know.


you can ask for more info, but it's pretty simple - it's not worth it to upgrade monsters unless you're very rich. PL25 gives by far the best return on investment. Win/day? As soon as you spend ridiculous amounts of crystals, you'll get gifts every day. Why would you want that? Just buy the bindings with the credits from selling crystals. The only reason is that you want to 'show off your power' - aka the e-penis (or i-penis if you're playing on an apple device) contest. But to win that, you'll need an army of PL 2250 level monsters. And then all types of monsters perform the same.

tl;dr - it does not matter, best advice is: don't do it.

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At Level ~300, is it worth buying Power Armor of Balance, or just go for Power Armor of Protection/Warding? Trying to figure out what pieces I should buy and/or mix/match.


Protection and warding are the best choice at your level, balance isn't that useful. If you have the credits, try a slaughter instead.
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:28
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 20 2018, 07:16) *

And then all types of monsters perform the same.

This.

The only reason i can see to choose a spefic monster class, is only to let it fit better to the name you give it.
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:30
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Thanks for the advice! Will do, wise ones!
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:41
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Do arenas give a higher token drop chance compared to IW and GF?
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QUOTE(abc12345678901 @ Mar 20 2018, 12:55) *

not 100% how to read this, is the 1/0 after lv 474 it's wins/killing blows? not sure what the +'s are.


Type : humanoid
PL : 474
1/0 = win/kill blows
+1 or +2 is the gift amount from monster

QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 20 2018, 13:09) *

And personaly i would mix Protection/Warding Three Pro two War.


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I agreed...
Right now i'm on 4 warding + 1 slaughter and will change to 2 protect + 2 warding + 1 slaughter (no soulfrags..)
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:45
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 20 2018, 01:16) *

you can ask for more info, but it's pretty simple - it's not worth it to upgrade monsters unless you're very rich. PL25 gives by far the best return on investment. Win/day? As soon as you spend ridiculous amounts of crystals, you'll get gifts every day. Why would you want that? Just buy the bindings with the credits from selling crystals. The only reason is that you want to 'show off your power' - aka the e-penis (or i-penis if you're playing on an apple device) contest. But to win that, you'll need an army of PL 2250 level monsters. And then all types of monsters perform the same.

tl;dr - it does not matter, best advice is: don't do it.


The thing is there IS a return on higher level monsters (though something like 2k probably wont ever give a return) even if it's years out. Why would i do this? because real time investment is next to nothing, a few secs to check monster lab every day or so. And i find that fact very appealing. Especially when i generate credits every day just from dawn of a new day which can help fund towards crystals on top of the ocational binge play. I've hit the point where it costs millions for 1% increase to my damage and can already clear any arena on PFUDOR in a few mins anyway. I figure i might as well go in for a long term investment especially when the real time investment is almost non existent. I'm just trying to find that point where it's only a few years to get back my return opposed to a few decades (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 20 2018, 08:48
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QUOTE(as013 @ Mar 20 2018, 07:41) *

Do arenas give a higher token drop chance compared to IW and GF?

Could be. I mean nether GF nor IW have the chance for a arena bonus token, so i would say overall arena should give you more token. Except GF or IW had a higher token chance, but tbh that would be new to me.
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post Mar 20 2018, 09:03
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QUOTE(as013 @ Mar 20 2018, 07:41) *
Do arenas give a higher token drop chance compared to IW and GF?


No. Even though arenas do have the increased drop chance in the last round, plus the end of arena token bonus, so they do are more efficient.
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post Mar 20 2018, 13:45
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Anyone know the chance of getting Riddlemaster?

And is it higher with Random Encounter mmm...~?
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post Mar 20 2018, 14:07
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You mean except 10bo? I doubt it.
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post Mar 20 2018, 15:35
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QUOTE(VawX @ Mar 20 2018, 12:45) *

Anyone know the chance of getting Riddlemaster?

And is it higher with Random Encounter mmm...~?

I suspect that if you fail, you get them more often for a while. But for the rest, it's random
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post Mar 20 2018, 16:32
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Mar 20 2018, 14:35) *

I suspect that if you fail, you get them more often for a while.

you do, it's not a secret. the more you fail, the more you meet them - based on a 7-days sliding window, if it didn't change since last time i asked. nope, not anymore. now it's based on the last 12 ones. source: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/RiddleMaster#Incorrect

since it's primarily an anti-cheating measure, guess it's simply a case of WaI (working as intended)

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post Mar 21 2018, 05:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 20 2018, 07:32) *

you do, it's not a secret. the more you fail, the more you meet them - based on a 7-days sliding window, if it didn't change since last time i asked. nope, not anymore. now it's based on the last 12 ones. source: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/RiddleMaster#Incorrect

since it's primarily an anti-cheating measure, guess it's simply a case of WaI (working as intended)


I'm not speaking from knowledge but more of a "feel".

If I'm using gum/vase, the riddlemaster "feels" like it's more frequent.
Of course they are coming quicker, because I'm literally flying through the rounds.
But it "feels" like I get more of them.

Personally, I love them, welcome them, and wish there were even more of them.
For "I"...... have the perk. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(e-penis moment!! mmmmm... feels good!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )
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post Mar 21 2018, 06:21
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Mar 20 2018, 06:41) *

Right the moment when you have the tokens to create another one.

Any specific questions?


Thats hard because i know so little. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Well, my raising metod is to give it all the crystals i can get, even if its a useless stat like INT for a melee monster. Am i wasting crystals?

Im only focusing on leveling the abilities Scavenging, fortitude, brutality, dissipatio, swiftness. Is this wise?

Except this, im just keeping the monster feed and happy. Is there something im missing?


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post Mar 21 2018, 06:42
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QUOTE(ale137 @ Mar 21 2018, 05:21) *

Thats hard because i know so little. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

But i dont know what you dont know, or what you actually want to know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

QUOTE(ale137 @ Mar 21 2018, 05:21) *

Well, my raising metod is to give it all the crystals i can get, even if its a useless stat like INT for a melee monster. Am i wasting crystals?

No, you dont waste crystals. In the end the overall PL of the monster is more importants as how many times you increase which stat. So, there are no specific useless stats from a monster, imo they are more or less equal useless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(ale137 @ Mar 21 2018, 05:21) *

Im only focusing on leveling the abilities Scavenging, fortitude, brutality, dissipatio, swiftness. Is this wise?


I would suggest stop leveling abilities at all and use the Tokens instead for creating more monster.

QUOTE(ale137 @ Mar 21 2018, 05:21) *

Except this, im just keeping the monster feed and happy. Is there something im missing?

At least nothing important i could think of now. But somethings that could be in general be helpfull would be: That the monster class dont really matter, that you wont be able to create a monster that would be a playerkiller. That they just start to bring HG Material above PL 500. But if you actually want a monster that does appear in battle you need at least something above PL1000. Even a PL 25 Monster can bring you a phazon and the different between PL 25 and lets say PL 500 is nearly zero.
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post Mar 21 2018, 08:54
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The Monster-Lab meta seems a lot different now than it used to be. Most of the comments I've seen seem to indicate that monster type doesn't really matter, crystal allocation doesn't matter, and so forth. I'm assuming the basis for this is that we assume people rarely die, that you typically win a battle just because someone has to go walk their dog or some crap and decides to run away from a battle.

Early on in the game though this wasn't the case at all. I remember having these assumptions:
1. Monsters that would show up to fight you tended to have a PL close to your personal level.
2. Monsters were scaled to the level of opponent and their stat allocation was based on how you had assigned crystals.

With those two assumptions, I had a giant that I had only pumped Str/Dex/Agi/End, I believe at a ratio of 9/7/5/9, and it absolutely destroyed all my other monsters in terms of battles won / killing blows. My Humanoid that was/is 100 PL higher isn't even close. I remember being so annoyed that I had created it because I would run into it all the time.

(To be fair, back then Super Ethereal gear was expensive, you didn't regen to full between different battles, you could only carry a max of 1 item per slot going into battles, yada yada yada, so people probably died way more frequently)
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